Is fine for not sorning car void if not previously informed.

[rob07]

Car was taxed but off road and uninsured.I was not told I couldn't do this and got a fine.Is the DVLA not meant to inform you before inforcing a new legislation.

[14-7]

It's been mentioned lots on the news and discussed several times on this site. No they don't have to tell you prior to enforcing legislation.

[mybrainhurts]

They informed me in similar circumstances and allowed me a bit of time to declare it SORN.

I probably slipped through the net...

[saaby93]

rob07 said:

Car was taxed but off road and uninsured.I was not told I couldn't do this and got a fine.Is the DVLA not meant to inform you before inforcing a new legislation.

Yes
Although they dont have to
CIE http://www.bailii.org/uk/legis/num_reg/2011/uksi_2...
144A http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/sectio...
144B http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/sectio...
144C http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/sectio...
theyre meant to check with you first so you can SORN insure or update the database in case it's wrong
Did DVLA have your correct address?
Here's the instructions
http://www.biba.org.uk/pdffiles/cieleaflet2010.pdf
here's the letter you should receive
http://stayinsured.askmid.com/documents/ial.pdf
and here's where to complain
https://emaildvla.direct.gov.uk/emaildvla/cegemail...
not that it will do much good... but let us know what happens

Are you sure it wasn't an officer of the law scouting around and found your car?

Edited by saaby93 on Thursday 8th March 22:44

[Meoricin]

saaby93 said:

es
although they dont have to theyre meant to check with you first so you can SORN insure or update the database in case it's wrong
Did DVLA have your correct address?

I don't remember there being any obligation on them to notify drivers of the new law - they started doing it of their own accord. Starting to fine without warning might be a bit unfair, but it's certainly allowed.

Edit: just seen your edit - never mind.

Edited by Meoricin on Thursday 8th March 20:34

[mybrainhurts]

14-7 said:

It's been mentioned lots on the news and discussed several times on this site. No they don't have to tell you prior to enforcing legislation.

That's right. You must know everything and you are responsible for everything in this regard.

Even DVLA mistakes....

I know these things...

[deltashad]

Unfortunately true. The DVLA have NO obligation to inform you that your car needs taxed or sorned. It is your responsibility.
I know this as I've accidently done this before and tried to get out of it.

It ain't like the old days with these computers.

[skeggysteve]

rob07 said:

Car was taxed but off road and uninsured.....

I'm confused by this.
So you're saying that your car was taxed but not insured?

I though if it was not taxed it had to be SORN'd.

I've got a van that's taxed but not insured on my drive and have not had any letter/fines from the DVLA.

[Defcon5]

When I sold my last car it was taxed but uninsured from October to February, never got anything

[-Pete-]

According to some government website:

If your vehicle is:

•taxed and insured – you do not need to do anything until your tax and insurance runs out
•taxed and uninsured - you must insure your vehicle or make a refund application with a SORN declaration to DVLA if your vehicle is off-road
•not taxed and uninsured – you must make a SORN and keep the vehicle off the road
•not taxed and insured – you must make a SORN and keep your vehicle off the road

I doubt if the criminals will know or care, but it seems a PITA for the car enthiusiasts.

[Meoricin]

skeggysteve said:

I'm confused by this.
So you're saying that your car was taxed but not insured?

I though if it was not taxed it had to be SORN'd.

I've got a van that's taxed but not insured on my drive and have not had any letter/fines from the DVLA.

You should be expecting one. If a car's taxed it has to be insured, unless it is SORN.

[aw51 121565]

-Pete- said:

According to some government website:

If your vehicle is:

•taxed and insured – you do not need to do anything until your tax and insurance runs out
•taxed and uninsured - you must insure your vehicle or make a refund application with a SORN declaration to DVLA if your vehicle is off-road
•not taxed and uninsured – you must make a SORN and keep the vehicle off the road
•not taxed and insured – you must make a SORN and keep your vehicle off the road

I doubt if the criminals will know or care, but it seems a PITA for the car enthiusiasts.

Well, that's the moneyshot, isn't it?!?!! Substitute 'registered keepers' for 'enthusiasts' and nowt changes . I mean, imagine putting yer name on a V5C nowadays ! More fool us, etc etc...

Joking apart, you are quite right and I'm being facetious.