Caught doing 69 in a 40
Discussion
First off I'd like to say I know I have been stupid, and I accept that. The only defence I have is that I was in a rush for an appointment so I wouldn't normally drive like that and the road I was on, well its seems ridiculous that its a 40. It's basically like a dual carriage way with 2 lanes on both sides (although probably not technically a dual carriage way due to no barriers in between). It was 11am and there was me and one other car on the whole stretch of road. There was a police van at the top with a camera flashing and I knew straight away I was screwed.
I have received an NIP from Northumbria Police. The letter they have sent me is from the 'Fixed Penalty Unit' and the way the letter is worded, it sounds like I could avoid court. They have at this stage simply asked for me to send off to say who the driver was at this stage. However there is no mention of any summons. Maybe I am grasping at straws. My question is this, given the time of day and the type of road, is there a chance in hell I could get the £60 3 points? Or even get a higher fine/points but avoid court? Are things like type of road factors that are taken into consideration? Can it vary from one Policing region to another? Or is it a case of, as I have read on certain sites, no matter what the area, in England they are obligated to let the courts deal with it at a certain speed? (ie at 40mph, 66mph I believe is the level I read you get summons).
Thanks for any advice in advance
I have received an NIP from Northumbria Police. The letter they have sent me is from the 'Fixed Penalty Unit' and the way the letter is worded, it sounds like I could avoid court. They have at this stage simply asked for me to send off to say who the driver was at this stage. However there is no mention of any summons. Maybe I am grasping at straws. My question is this, given the time of day and the type of road, is there a chance in hell I could get the £60 3 points? Or even get a higher fine/points but avoid court? Are things like type of road factors that are taken into consideration? Can it vary from one Policing region to another? Or is it a case of, as I have read on certain sites, no matter what the area, in England they are obligated to let the courts deal with it at a certain speed? (ie at 40mph, 66mph I believe is the level I read you get summons).
Thanks for any advice in advance
About 15 years ago I got a fixed penalty, 3 points & £60 smacked bottom for 86 mph on a 60 limit, single carriageway A road, overtaking into oncoming traffic - it was a former 3 lane highway.
I think it was because I did reasonably well at the attitude test, but it goes to show what's possible, I guess...
I think it was because I did reasonably well at the attitude test, but it goes to show what's possible, I guess...
R0G said:
I reckon 3 points and £60 will be the next communication
What makes you say that? That would be amazing as I have 3 points on my license from 36 in a 30 last year and I am wetting myself about driving for 2 years with 9 points! I would rather take a 4 week ban in that case than have 9 points with a potential 6 month ban!From what I've read online it does seem to indicate by some that they are obligated to summon you over 66mph (at 40mph)? I hope not
eybic said:
Best place for this kind of query is www.pepipoo.com
Thanks I've done that. Isn't great news. Sounds like I will hear however many months down the line when my court date is Really not looking forward to this at all!
I once got the standard penalty for doing 62 in a 30 (yeah yeah, I'm thinking of the children as I type). However, mine was at about 0300, I was stopped by an actual policeman (imagine that) to whom I was particularly complimentary and he very kindly offered to treat me like a grown-up. I fear decision makers dealing with paperwork rather than a person may take a dim view of your speed and invite you to Court. That said, as has been aforementioned, the easy way out is to offer you a fixed penalty. If you do end up with a ticket, consider yourself somewhat lucky (what a sad situation that is...)
Simon.
Simon.
t manpower because of the bank hols?barney2k said:
It's basically like a dual carriage way with 2 lanes on both sides (although probably not technically a dual carriage way due to no barriers in between).
We've covered the definition of a dual carriageway many times on here, but for clarification, simply put:A "carriageway" is a section of highway comprising one or more lanes.
A dual carriageway is a road with physically separated lanes (for carrying traffic in opposing directions).
The physical separation of the carriageways that makes a highway a "dual carriageway" can be effected by just a grass strip, no 'barrier' is needed; however, a line or two of paint will not suffice to differentiate 'single' from 'dual'.
On a "single carriageway" traffic in the lanes can travel in either direction.
On a "dual carriageway" traffic generally travels in one direction only on each carriageway.
Both single and dual carriageways can have a different number of lanes in either direction.
Dual carriageways can have different speed limits on each carriageway. A single carriageway can not.
The speed limit on dual carriageways is defined by the numbers on the posts, except where the DC is within a 30mph zone and the limit is defined by a conforming system of street lighting. The upper limit is NSL, currently 70mph for cars.
As above for single carriageways, but with a current upper limit of 60mph for cars.
By definition, in the UK, motorways are not "dual carriageways", they are "special roads"; but not all "special roads" are motorways. Some signage rules for motorway speed limits differ from those for other types of roads.
The signage rules for the NSL on highways in Scotland differ from those in the rest of the UK - '60' and '70' introductions and repeaters, rather than NSL.
Streaky
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