Neighbours CCTV - Are There Rules ?
Neighbours CCTV - Are There Rules ?
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V8RX7

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28,982 posts

293 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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I'm in the countryside and my nearest neighbour is opposite but his house is 100m from the road whilst mine is approx 30m.

However he's had issues with theft and has erected dome type CCTV cameras on high poles one of which is at the roadside by his gates.

I have a slight issue with this as obviously you can't see where the camera is pointing and it could be looking into any of my 3 daughters bedrooms on the front of my house - I don't suppose he's a weirdo but who knows.

Is this a reasonable positioning of CCTV or are there any rules these days ?

Ideally I'd have preferred a normal camera pointing at his gate which is the norm.

Simply asking before talking to him as his bloody 10,000W LED PIR light, lights up the front of my house too, setting my dogs off at all hours.

geeks

11,752 posts

169 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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Have you tried talking/asking your neighbor?

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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If your daughters are 18 year old triplets, blonde and slightly chubby then I'd say it's very reasonable.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

258 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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Use a drone to spy on him.

anothernameitist

1,500 posts

165 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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If the camera is remote controlled he could be looking into ALL of your 3 daughters bedrooms

Joeguard1990

1,217 posts

156 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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If it's installed on his property then I'll think you'll have a hard time getting him to remove it legally.
I doubt those Dome cameras would be decent enough to be able to pick up images through your daughters' windows, the resolution would be nowhere near as powerful as it would need to be.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

258 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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[standard PH response]

Pics?

We need to know if there is any point debating this.

[/standard PH response]

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

258 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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V8RX7 said:
Simply asking before talking to him as his bloody 10,000W LED PIR light, lights up the front of my house too, setting my dogs off at all hours.
OP, earlier:


58warren

589 posts

209 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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I worked on the design for Colchester Garrison and the perimeter wall/fencing security cameras were originally meant to be rotational; however this was not permitted as many areas of the site were bordered by residential properties and the cameras had to be fixed to avoid them being turned by the operator to view back gardens/windows etc. It meant a lot more fixed cameras were required to cover all the deviations in alignment along the perimeter wall/fence.

Spoonman

1,085 posts

291 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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CCTV cameras can be subject to the Protection from Harassment Act, and also the Human Rights Act.

Plus, if he's filming onto your property, he should register with the ICO as a data controller, which costs £35 per year.

Technically, if he's filming you and your family it's a matter for the police, or even a safer neighbourhood-type department in the local authority.

The problem you'll have is getting anyone to do anything about it. We had a neighbour (50-odd-year-old weirdo, still living at home with his mum) filming our garden with CCTV and admitting to police to taking photos of my girlfriend while hiding behind buildings. The police wouldn't do a thing.

You may find this useful: http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/docum...

shandyboy

473 posts

184 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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How close is the camera to your house? As someone mentioned, most CCTV equipment doesn't have the resolution to give anything other than an overall view over a certain distance - although it's understandably not nice not knowing if it is pointing at your house or not.

This page offers some info on equipment and distances: http://www.cctv-information.co.uk/i/Home_Office_Re...

Most dome cameras won't have anything like the lens required for facial recognition over a decent distance, and there are rules about not recording beyond your property - it's worth having a friendly word.

CAPP0

20,881 posts

233 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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I can't quote chapter & verse but there are most definitely rules about it. I have a feeling, although happy to be corrected, that it's something to do with, whilst your camera can cover your land and anywhere public, it's not allowed to be able to "view" anyone else's property. Have a Google, if I'm halfway right then you should be able to do something about it.

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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if it was me, I would get some privacy film on your daughters rooms, 1 way viewing.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

220 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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V8RX7 said:
I have a slight issue with this as obviously you can't see where the camera is pointing and it could be looking into any of my 3 daughters bedrooms on the front of my house - I don't suppose he's a weirdo but who knows.
I understand your concern, but thinking rationally. What is to stop anyone looking from the public road at your house into any of the windows?

If you live near a hill with a footpath on, then some bino's or a telescope would achieve the same thing.


Essentially is the risk really any greater?


-You could fit net curtains to the windows, or something else to make it harder to look in from outside.

-Maybe speak to and get to know your neighbour? Probably a better way to judge them and then as a potential friend enquire about fixed camera's instead.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

148 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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I think the fact OP has to ask on PH instead of asking his neighbour probably shows how the thread is going to go... hahahahaha.

I see no issues with him using CCTV personally!

Mr Trophy

6,811 posts

233 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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Speak to him?

I recently put CCTV up in the house, chapped next door to make them aware. They where more than happy and even asked if it would cover their house - which they where grateful for.

geeks

11,752 posts

169 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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Mr Trophy said:
Speak to him?

I recently put CCTV up in the house, chapped next door to make them aware. They where more than happy and even asked if it would cover their house - which they where grateful for.
Indeed, we put some up after our garage was broken into. It only covers our garden but I still went over to the neighbors and explained that, they were disappointed it didn't cover theirs too..

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

207 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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A council/police camera on a street in my local town used to be an old fashioned boxy shape one. They made sure it couldn't look into bedrooms of houses behind (it has since changed to a small dome type but I assume the angle of view is still the same):

https://goo.gl/maps/bFvTT1MCx3k

Any chance your neighbour could do the same (or you do it at your expenses with his permission)?

parabolica

7,017 posts

214 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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Assuming your neighbour is opposite you (or even if he was alongside I guess) would he really be able to see much going on 30-meters away on a CCTV-spec camera?

V8RX7

Original Poster:

28,982 posts

293 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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geeks said:
Have you tried talking/asking your neighbor?
Read the last line of my OP

Learn to spell "neighbour"

Then smack yourself around the back of the head.