Pretend police corrupt

[anonymous-user]

PCSOs jailed after implicating innocent man in an attempted murder
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-39...

[CharlesdeGaulle]

Is there a 'so what' to your post?

Otherwise you're utterly relentlessly dull with your anti-Police cruusade. Get a life.

[anonymous-user]

No cruuuuuuusade, it's just a news article - I didn't even comment on it.

[0a]

Your thread title is 'Pretend police corrupt'.

It comes over as general and obsessive, again.

[anonymous-user]

0a said:

Your thread title is 'Pretend police corrupt'.

It comes over as general and obsessive, again.

Sorry I should have called it 'corrupt PCSOs'.

[zarjaz1991]

"Pretend" police are a waste of time.
When they arrest suspects, the suspects only "pretend" to fall down a fire escape during the arrest. It's a lot less fun for everyone.

[Ekona]

Is there a story here? I tried finding it, but can't get past how pretty the lady in the article is

[4rephill]

Ekona said:

Is there a story here? I tried finding it, but can't get past how pretty the lady in the article is

she looks okay - not that pretty, and she sounds like a right vindictive, nasty piece of work!

If that's the sort of woman you're attracted to - best advice?: Don't buy a rabbit!

[Ekona]

Trouble is your dick goes hard and your brain goes soft

But yeah, not a nice person at all.

[sonnenschein3000]

Ekona said:

Is there a story here? I tried finding it, but can't get past how pretty the lady in the article is

She's ok, but maybe the idea of her in a police outfit in a strange sort of roleplaying femdom telling you that you've been a bad bad boy had got you going?

[Motorrad]

My concern with PCSOs is that it's an attempt at policing on the cheap. I'd prefer to see more 'real' Police and I know that they would too.

Regardless of the OPs agenda it's terrible to think of these people being accepted as an alternative to proper law enforcement.

[singlecoil]

Probably better than nothing though, which would be the alternative if they were got rid of.

[Mandalore]

[4rephill]

Mandalore said:

But the guy who was having a problem with the Police hadn't actually broken any Laws - He was being set up by his bunny boiler ex-girlfriend!

[Derek Smith]

Motorrad said:

My concern with PCSOs is that it's an attempt at policing on the cheap. I'd prefer to see more 'real' Police and I know that they would too.

Regardless of the OPs agenda it's terrible to think of these people being accepted as an alternative to proper law enforcement.

The public has always stated that they wanted police officers on the beat. It is an expensive option. The job had been going through years of cutbacks, subtle but real. But most forces tended to support foot patrols by verbals, but in reality there was reduction year on year.

The option was PCSOs. If you view it not as cheap policing but patrolling on the cheap some logic starts to appear. Of course, that was before the massive governmental cuts and, don't forget, the reductions in local funding as well. This means that for some forces there has been a 30% cut.

As with HATOs, the idea was reasonable but it needed funding adequately. And there was never any chance of that.

As for problems; I am, thankfully, away from the problems, but I still meet with serving officers. A couple of years ago I spoke with a 'shift inspector', not quite the same role as when I held the title, reckoned that 'we've got used to them'. If it wasn't for PCSOs there would be very little on foot.

Speak with one or two. They are encouraged to take their break in cafes and such, at least in my force area.

[singlecoil]

4rephill said:

Mandalore said:

But the guy who was having a problem with the Police hadn't actually broken any Laws - He was being set up by his bunny boiler ex-girlfriend!

I think that Mandalore's point was not the specifics of this case but anti-police sentiment in general, which we see a lot of in this forum and from the same people.

[carinaman]

Motorrad said:

My concern with PCSOs is that it's an attempt at policing on the cheap. I'd prefer to see more 'real' Police and I know that they would too.

Regardless of the OPs agenda it's terrible to think of these people being accepted as an alternative to proper law enforcement.

singlecoil said:

Probably better than nothing though, which would be the alternative if they were got rid of.

Devon and Cornwall police announced they were going to have 100 more police officers, I think that's of multiple roles, not just patrol PCs but getting rid of almost double that amount of PCSOs to pay for the 100 polcie officers.


I don't see these convictions as a PCSO issue, I see it as bad apples being stupid beyond words issue, something that happens in all ranks.

Are similar scams likely to become more frequent with the intake of police volunteers performing all sorts of roles for the police?

Does the creative accounting that sees PCSOs being reduced to fund half the amount of Police Constables include having unpaid volunteers taking up some of the work that was done by PCSOs?

If PCSOs are policing on the cheap, are police volunteers even more policing on the cheap?


Two bad apples were identified by their own arrogance and stupidity and were dealt with by a court of law. It's a good news story for the police and the public.

Edited by carinaman on Sunday 19th March 10:11

[zarjaz1991]

I have no problem with the PCSO concept, it seemed a sensible solution to a difficult problem (having more bobbies on the beat).

The trouble is, after a few years when it seemed to increase visibility, PCSOs themselves now seem to have been cut back and I rarely see any police of any type on 'the beat', so to speak.

Now, I *could* insert a facetious anti-police comment about them all being busy beating people up in cells, or something, but I'm really trying to be serious for a change and so I'm exercising great restraint.

[MiniMan64]

Shocker.

Humans being humans. There will always be a percentage our race who are selfish arse holes doing things they shouldn't.

There's probably a statiscal percentage somewhere, the portion of the population with a criminal record, the portion of corrupt police, the portion of teacher who abuse kids, the portion of politicians who are corrupt (although I bet you that's higher!)

It happens.

[Bigends]

zarjaz1991 said:

I have no problem with the PCSO concept, it seemed a sensible solution to a difficult problem (having more bobbies on the beat).

The trouble is, after a few years when it seemed to increase visibility, PCSOs themselves now seem to have been cut back and I rarely see any police of any type on 'the beat', so to speak.

Now, I *could* insert a facetious anti-police comment about them all being busy beating people up in cells, or something, but I'm really trying to be serious for a change and so I'm exercising great restraint.

Very rarely see a PCSO out and about on foot round my way. Usually paired up in cars which is totally against the initial concept. Theyre used more and more to carry out basic crime enquiries and are being taken away from what they were employed to be - a visible presence on the streets.

Edited by Bigends on Sunday 19th March 15:09