Crap, another NIP
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Well, I guess it is just over 3 years since my last one. 
39 in a 30, which surprises me greatly as I generally take 30mph limits very seriously.
Not entirely sure where it got me to be honest, but I did see a scamera van the other day and suddenly realised that the dual carriageway I was on was a 30mph and not a 40mph, so I suspect it was that. However, I was just "going with the flow" so I would imagine they had a profitable time of it that day.
Tit-biscuits. I was looking forward to having a clean license for insurance purposes (ie. all points 3 years old or older) at renewal.
>> Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 6th July 13:58
39 in a 30, which surprises me greatly as I generally take 30mph limits very seriously.
Not entirely sure where it got me to be honest, but I did see a scamera van the other day and suddenly realised that the dual carriageway I was on was a 30mph and not a 40mph, so I suspect it was that. However, I was just "going with the flow" so I would imagine they had a profitable time of it that day.
Tit-biscuits. I was looking forward to having a clean license for insurance purposes (ie. all points 3 years old or older) at renewal.
>> Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 6th July 13:58
Bummer, Jon.
BUT. IIRC. For insurance purposes points "count" for FIVE years (i.e. this is how long they want to know about them for...). They are shown on your licence for FOUR years - although who would clean them off when you need to remember them for another year for the aforementioned insurance purposes. For "totting up" purposes they count for THREE years.
BUT. IIRC. For insurance purposes points "count" for FIVE years (i.e. this is how long they want to know about them for...). They are shown on your licence for FOUR years - although who would clean them off when you need to remember them for another year for the aforementioned insurance purposes. For "totting up" purposes they count for THREE years.
Don said:
For insurance purposes points "count" for FIVE years (i.e. this is how long they want to know about them for...). They are shown on your licence for FOUR years - although who would clean them off when you need to remember them for another year for the aforementioned insurance purposes. For "totting up" purposes they count for THREE years.
Ah, yes, sorry. You are, of course, correct Don - I got it all arse-about-face.
Still, at least there is the bonus of not having to worry as much about totting up.
>> Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 6th July 19:22
DeMolay said:I'm considering it. However, to be honest, I'm not sure how much mileage (groan) there is in that as I know who was driving and I know the limit there.
www.pepipoo.com ?
I maintain that the limit is stupidly low and I was just following the flow of the traffic, but it isn't exactly a strong case.
I wouldn't be surprised if the amount of people getting caught speeding at this moment in time is increasing massively,cause i know within the area i live there is a load of those'give priority to oncoming traffic' signs and islands getting built,then sneakily really near these a road that has been 60mph since time amd memorial is suddenly 40mph!Must catch a load of people out.Don't know if this is happening in other places too?
Well, just think of all the children you now won't run over, cos you've really learnt your lesson about speed, haven't you? I mean, you were so obviously driving dangerously that you had to be fined and given three points, they just couldn't be arsed to tell you about it at the time.
Safety cameras my arse!
Don't roll over Jon, fight them. They rely on people just paying up. You never know till you know, ya know. Camera could be defective, papers might get lost, all sorts of things can go wrong 'tween now and your day in court.
I reckon we all have a responsibility to fight each and every ticket like this, to show that we don't want this kind of CCTV law enforcement.
Safety cameras my arse!
Don't roll over Jon, fight them. They rely on people just paying up. You never know till you know, ya know. Camera could be defective, papers might get lost, all sorts of things can go wrong 'tween now and your day in court.
I reckon we all have a responsibility to fight each and every ticket like this, to show that we don't want this kind of CCTV law enforcement.
mondeoman said:
Don't roll over Jon, fight them. They rely on people just paying up. You never know till you know, ya know. Camera could be defective, papers might get lost, all sorts of things can go wrong 'tween now and your day in court.
I reckon we all have a responsibility to fight each and every ticket like this, to show that we don't want this kind of CCTV law enforcement.
Yeah. That's about the way I see it too.
When they enforce petty technical regulations against us, they equally have to observe a wide range of petty technical regulations, and increasingly, they are demonstrating that they aren't up to it either.
If you refuse the fixed penalty notice and have your day in court - even if you plead guilty - you'll have the satisfaction of knowing that the greedy partnership does not get the cash. They only get money from paid FPNs.
If you require the camera operator to attend court as a witness, he won't be out on the road nicking more responsible motorists will he?
The system absolutely depends on folk rolling over and paying the FPN. So, you may think, it's an excellent idea not to roll over.
Dwight VanDriver said:
Thats not one of your better posts SS....
Smacks at a seven letter word starting with A and ending with Y.
DVD
Is no one listening to the safespeed message other than the converted?
That post has an element of desparation about it!
Sorry to hear of your problem Jon!
>> Edited by gone on Saturday 9th July 11:13
Dwight VanDriver said:
Thats not one of your better posts SS....
Smacks at a seven letter word starting with A and ending with Y.
Anarchy? Are you kidding?
People have a legal right to a court hearing. I'm suggesting that they exercise that right.
People have a legal right to test the evidence against them. I'm suggesting that they exercise that right.
People have a legal right to refuse a fixed penalty notice. I'm suggesting that they exercise that right.
Or perhaps you meant apology?
I am now worrying also.
Coming into Leeds today just off the M621 where it goes all swirly into the city centre. All traffic was in the left lane (like they do for some reason) and I had a clear road.
Rounded a bend an saw big white van with 2 cameras, 1 in each back window, parked behind some trees on a grass verge.
Looked down and saw I was doing almost 40. I have no idea of the limit but suspect, knowing my luck, it'll be a 30.
Was this a scamera van or do you think more of a tax van?
Coming into Leeds today just off the M621 where it goes all swirly into the city centre. All traffic was in the left lane (like they do for some reason) and I had a clear road.
Rounded a bend an saw big white van with 2 cameras, 1 in each back window, parked behind some trees on a grass verge.
Looked down and saw I was doing almost 40. I have no idea of the limit but suspect, knowing my luck, it'll be a 30.
Was this a scamera van or do you think more of a tax van?
It is strange how the SCPs view speeding as a serious offence and yet don't want it to go to court. I would expect that such a dangerous and antisocial offence should be seen by a magistrate if it is in fact dangerous.... There is of course the possibility that revenue flow may be the major concern 
Hard luck Jon; btw how many children did you mow down while on your hell bent 39mph rampage?
Hard luck Jon; btw how many children did you mow down while on your hell bent 39mph rampage?
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