A413 Great Missenden
Discussion
Evening All,
I was back home for uni over the weekend and I had to pop into where I used to work in South Harrow on Monday.
So I did the journey that I did every day last year. Since when did it drop to 50mph on the A413 at Great Missenden (At the railway bridge near the Pizza Place/Petrol Stations?)
Lots of repeaters signs in both directions, that looked like they'd had the black bin liners that were covering them ripped off.
No signs marking the start or end of this speed limit.
Coming back from London heading off the dual carriageway at London the same thing.
Is this limit legal?
I know they experimented a couple of years with a speed limit reductin there but this just seems badly thought out.
Thanks,
Phill
I was back home for uni over the weekend and I had to pop into where I used to work in South Harrow on Monday.
So I did the journey that I did every day last year. Since when did it drop to 50mph on the A413 at Great Missenden (At the railway bridge near the Pizza Place/Petrol Stations?)
Lots of repeaters signs in both directions, that looked like they'd had the black bin liners that were covering them ripped off.
No signs marking the start or end of this speed limit.
Coming back from London heading off the dual carriageway at London the same thing.
Is this limit legal?
I know they experimented a couple of years with a speed limit reductin there but this just seems badly thought out.
Thanks,
Phill
Loads of limits around this neck of the woods changed around six weeks ago. The A413 was comparatively unscathed. You probably won't be surprised to hear the others were all downwards changes as well. two involved dropping 40's to 30's outside schools the others seemed to have no justification. We now have two driver mentalities, those who stick to the old limits because the new ones are clearly absurd (or haven't noticed that they have changed) who merrily overtake the second group who either believe that they must obey the new limits because the ones that they have had for years were clearly lethal or have nine points on their licence from using common sense rather than number to drive by. Clearly this situation is regarded as hugely safer by the council than back in the bad old days when we used to travel at broadly the same recklessly higher speeds.
Glad I've got that off my chest...
The experiment a few years back incidentally was when the railway bridge in Missenden was being replaced because of all the extra traffic on the A413 (No I didn't really undertand the logic either).
>> Edited by rustybin on Friday 17th March 13:09
Glad I've got that off my chest...
The experiment a few years back incidentally was when the railway bridge in Missenden was being replaced because of all the extra traffic on the A413 (No I didn't really undertand the logic either).
>> Edited by rustybin on Friday 17th March 13:09
Until I see a Tallivan/cop trap on this section I'll continue to do 70mph, slowing to 50 at the dangerous points like the railway bridge. The A404 from Hazlemere to Amersham is now a 50 too. Uh huh.
Yours recklessly etc.
P.S. I'll also continue to do 15mph through our housing estate where all the housewives come flying up behind me at 30mph. I drive to the conditions/surroundings, and take a chance where the law is plain stupid.
You haven't seen me rightt
Yours recklessly etc.
P.S. I'll also continue to do 15mph through our housing estate where all the housewives come flying up behind me at 30mph. I drive to the conditions/surroundings, and take a chance where the law is plain stupid.
You haven't seen me rightt
For some reason Ive always found that idiots drive at 40 mph hour on this section anyway.
People (especially old pant-pissing types) seem to think that the shallow bend under the bridge is a hairpin bend! Furthermore some magic which exists around there prevents thier accelerators being depressed more than 1.8 millimetres once they reach the straight after it. I therefore conclude that the new limit is aimed at preventing redfaced lunatics (me) from screaming 'what the
s wrong with you you stupid old ' in a twice daily basis 
People (especially old pant-pissing types) seem to think that the shallow bend under the bridge is a hairpin bend! Furthermore some magic which exists around there prevents thier accelerators being depressed more than 1.8 millimetres once they reach the straight after it. I therefore conclude that the new limit is aimed at preventing redfaced lunatics (me) from screaming 'what the
s wrong with you you stupid old ' in a twice daily basis But there is a Right turn under the bridge which isnt visible from the entry to the corner so you have drivers either stationary waiting to turn right or people joining the A413 at a slow speed as they cant see past the bridge.
I thought it was just that section that was affected around the junctions, which i think do need slowing down.
I thought it was just that section that was affected around the junctions, which i think do need slowing down.
^Slider^ said:
But there is a Right turn under the bridge which isnt visible from the entry to the corner so you have drivers either stationary waiting to turn right or people joining the A413 at a slow speed as they cant see past the bridge.
I thought it was just that section that was affected around the junctions, which i think do need slowing down.
Agreed. Must be hard to turn right out of that side road too.
targarama said:
Until I see a Tallivan/cop trap on this section I'll continue to do 70mph, slowing to 50 at the dangerous points like the railway bridge. The A404 from Hazlemere to Amersham is now a 50 too. Uh huh.
Yours recklessly etc.
P.S. I'll also continue to do 15mph through our housing estate where all the housewives come flying up behind me at 30mph. I drive to the conditions/surroundings, and take a chance where the law is plain stupid.
You haven't seen me rightt
You and me both! For some reason I seem to ignore most 50mph limits (when safe to do so) and treat them as NSL. They just seem stupid.
This weekends' Bucks Free Press has 2 pages of new speed limit planning application/notifications. Not A404/A413, as they've just done this neck of the woods, but all the other directions from Wycombe. Lots of 60mph down to 50mph. Waste of money on the signs ... but I guess it enables the Tallivan to catch more people. No, I don't think I'm at all cynical saying that.
targarama said:
But there is a Right turn under the bridge which isnt visible from the entry to the corner so you have drivers either stationary waiting to turn right or people joining the A413 at a slow speed as they cant see past the bridge.
I thought it was just that section that was affected around the junctions, which i think do need slowing down.
Agreed. Must be hard to turn right out of that side road too.
I used to have an automatic 1.6 BX Citroen. turning right in it there was exciting to say the least ('bout the only thing that was!). So I used to go to the next junction where it was easier to spot a bigger gap and roll gently into it.
See your point Slider. Slowing down there is defintiely a good idea. But if the double blind bend and side road signs, double white centre lines, plus the good old SLOW written on the road are not enough warning for most people to leave off the gas I doubt a speed restriction is much more help.
maddog-uk said:
Damn I liked that bit of road when i have a nice blast down to gloucestershire to see the parents. I did notice a few months ago they were putting the signs up.
You don't perhaps think we're talking about the A417 do you? That goes past Lechlade and is an ace route into Glous. A413 goes from Denham to Wendover.
rustybin said:
But there is a Right turn under the bridge which isnt visible from the entry to the corner so you have drivers either stationary waiting to turn right or people joining the A413 at a slow speed as they cant see past the bridge.
I thought it was just that section that was affected around the junctions, which i think do need slowing down.
Agreed. Must be hard to turn right out of that side road too.
See your point Slider. Slowing down there is defintiely a good idea. But if the double blind bend and side road signs, double white centre lines, plus the good old SLOW written on the road are not enough warning for most people to leave off the gas I doubt a speed restriction is much more help.
Well, alot of people seem to travel down that road on auto pilot i mean i go to and from work on that road.
Time will tell if they notice the speed signs and if they dont notice those then christ knows what they will notice because they are sure as hell missing the other warning boards there.
A i said its all auto pilot with alot of drivers going too and from work and wouldnt notice if nelly the elephant was standing on the verge with a slow sign in his trunk wearing a tutu and playing trumbone!
^Slider^ said:
But there is a Right turn under the bridge which isnt visible from the entry to the corner so you have drivers either stationary waiting to turn right or people joining the A413 at a slow speed as they cant see past the bridge.
I thought it was just that section that was affected around the junctions, which i think do need slowing down.
Agreed. Must be hard to turn right out of that side road too.
See your point Slider. Slowing down there is defintiely a good idea. But if the double blind bend and side road signs, double white centre lines, plus the good old SLOW written on the road are not enough warning for most people to leave off the gas I doubt a speed restriction is much more help.
Well, alot of people seem to travel down that road on auto pilot i mean i go to and from work on that road.
Time will tell if they notice the speed signs and if they dont notice those then christ knows what they will notice because they are sure as hell missing the other warning boards there.
A i said its all auto pilot with alot of drivers going too and from work and wouldnt notice if nelly the elephant was standing on the verge with a slow sign in his trunk wearing a tutu and playing trumbone!
Too true.
targarama said:
Damn I liked that bit of road when i have a nice blast down to gloucestershire to see the parents. I did notice a few months ago they were putting the signs up.
You don't perhaps think we're talking about the A417 do you? That goes past Lechlade and is an ace route into Glous. A413 goes from Denham to Wendover.
Nope I go on the A413 to gloucestershire!
If you want the exact route I go harrow, denham, wendover, aylesbury, bicester, chipping norton, stowe on the wold, slaughers, toddington, winchecombe....parents house. Its a lovely drive and far more fun in a tvr than the more direct route!
But I know the route you are talking about ie a417, it lost its appeal when they made it all dual carriageway but I sometimes go a4 that route then the old cirecenster road to cheltenham via the bottom road (not the birdlip route).
maddog-uk said:
Damn I liked that bit of road when i have a nice blast down to gloucestershire to see the parents. I did notice a few months ago they were putting the signs up.
You don't perhaps think we're talking about the A417 do you? That goes past Lechlade and is an ace route into Glous. A413 goes from Denham to Wendover.
Nope I go on the A413 to gloucestershire!
If you want the exact route I go harrow, denham, wendover, aylesbury, bicester, chipping norton, stowe on the wold, slaughers, toddington, winchecombe....parents house. Its a lovely drive and far more fun in a tvr than the more direct route!
But I know the route you are talking about ie a417, it lost its appeal when they made it all dual carriageway but I sometimes go a4 that route then the old cirecenster road to cheltenham via the bottom road (not the birdlip route).
Sounds fun.
The A417 route I mean goes Marlow, Henley, Harwell, Wantage, Faringdon, Lechlade, Fairford. Only DC is 3 miles up out of Henley (infamous gaps in hedge created by offroad-ed Henley Heritage Tuscan test drivers)
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