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The Montana experiment. In a nutshell they removed the speed limit on the freeway and fatalaties instantly dropped and when they reinstated the limit the fatality rate increased. Would any of our "speed is everything" posters care to explain how that could be as I'm a little confused.
Surely if they removed the speed limit fatalities would go up? Or is the assertation that speed limit compliance is important to safety actually misleading?
I'm waiting
Surely if they removed the speed limit fatalities would go up? Or is the assertation that speed limit compliance is important to safety actually misleading?
I'm waiting
I have a feeling it will be very 
Got it!
It's to do with the sound produced by cars at certain speeds & moose collisions:
Moose are talented communicators, though some sounds they make are at low frequencies that are inaudible to the human ear. The bull and cow moose share only a few sounds in common. Some of the colorful calls they use include: squeaks, smacks, seeking calls, distress calls, snorting, gnashing, moaning or wailing, hiccups, and roars.
It's to do with the sound produced by cars at certain speeds & moose collisions:
Moose are talented communicators, though some sounds they make are at low frequencies that are inaudible to the human ear. The bull and cow moose share only a few sounds in common. Some of the colorful calls they use include: squeaks, smacks, seeking calls, distress calls, snorting, gnashing, moaning or wailing, hiccups, and roars.
Moose are equipped with special skills and qualities. For example, moose generally walk or pace slowly but they are capable of trotting at a speed of up to six miles per hour, and in rare cases at much higher speeds for brief spurts.
They generally don’t jump an obstacle, but check it out and then rear up on hind feet and thrust themselves over the hurdle. To move through deep snow, they may snowshoe by elevating their hooves and spreading their dewclaws. Moose are also powerful swimmers that move through water with a pacing, or fast-walk stroke, and with the whole body submerged.
They generally don’t jump an obstacle, but check it out and then rear up on hind feet and thrust themselves over the hurdle. To move through deep snow, they may snowshoe by elevating their hooves and spreading their dewclaws. Moose are also powerful swimmers that move through water with a pacing, or fast-walk stroke, and with the whole body submerged.
*Interesting side bar: During this 6 year period, Montana’s rural interstates daytime speeds (no speed limit) were consistently lower (on average 5–10 mph and more) than the speeds being reported on many sections of Southern California’s 65 mph posted urban interstates
That's interesting...people actually drove slower as a result of no limit!
So: that would correlate that more speed = more deaths?
That's interesting...people actually drove slower as a result of no limit!
So: that would correlate that more speed = more deaths?
vonhosen said:
1996 they changed the daytime speed limit to safe & prudent.
Figures in 1996 = 114 deaths.
Figures for 1997 = 140 deaths.
>> Edited by vonhosen on Tuesday 28th March 22:44
And so you should
the limit remained at 55 during that period, the interesting stats are in 1999 1996 114
1997 140
1998 113
1999 102
Last 12 Months
W/No Daytime Limits
101 Low
2000
After Speed Limits
143 High
That's what I love about the "stick to the limit" arguement, always quoting misleading stats.
So, would anyone like to try to explain it seeing as it happened. Surely it's a bit of a paradox don't you think? What if removing our motorway limit actually saved lives? Think about that before answering, what if it saved lives?
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