Beyond a joke - Roadrage Part 2
Beyond a joke - Roadrage Part 2
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bassfiend

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5,530 posts

270 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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Have just got back from Fernhursts - went over there with wifey and Edward (my 7 year old son) ... our route there takes us up the A3 into Hindhead and at the point where the A3 goes from dual carriageway to normal two way single lane road towards the Hindhead lights there's always a tailback.

I'm trundling along in the left hand lane along with everyone else when a white sierra comes up the outside lane and decides to pull in in front of me. Theres no room for him to do so but I lift my foot off the accelerator and let my car slow to let him in.

Next thing is he's stopped his car in front of mine, got out and is walking over ... he says something which I can't hear so I wound down my window.

"What did you just mouth to me?"

"Nothing."

Next thing is a fist comes through my open window and hits me square in the throat and I get a load of abuse from the bloke. THIS IS WITH MY WIFE AND KID IN THE CAR!!!

He walks back to his car, gets in and drives off - I made sure I got his number while I got my breath back then got out the car to see if the driver behind had seen what had happened.

Now, my wife and kid were in the car and I didn't make any kind of "guesture" to the bloke or any comment other than me and the wife were discussing whether we could afford the Tiv that we were going to see.

It's been reported to the Surrey police ... lets see if they take it any further because I've just spent the last three hours with my kid going "Why did that man hit you?"

Phil

Edited to say - The guy behind us just said that he didn't want to be involved. Great public spiritedness we have around here!!!

>>> Edited by bassfiend on Sunday 31st August 15:32

Don

28,378 posts

304 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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WHat an absolutely shocking story. Do you have the registration number of the vehicle?

This man should be in jail.

Well done for controlling yourself, thinking of your family and avoiding anything worse...

Edited to remove unacceptable indication of what actions I'd like to take in the same situation...

>> Edited by Don on Sunday 31st August 15:38

bassfiend

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5,530 posts

270 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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Yup - registration and report given to Surrey police by phone from Fernies (thanks to Simon there for plying me and the wife with coffee whilst I calmed down) and they said that if they consider it worth following up then they'll be in touch with me within 36 hours. I also took the registration of the guy behind who didn't want to be involved, just in case.

Unfortunately it put a real p*sser on the afternoon and neither Jo nor I actually felt like taking out the 5 litre Chimera that we had specifically driven over there to see - and it's a good hour or so's run from Winchester to Fernies!

My fecking throat still hurts...

Phil

Edited to say that he also had - what I assume was - his wife and kid in *HIS* car too!!!


>> Edited by bassfiend on Sunday 31st August 15:49

Bodo

12,428 posts

286 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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What an absolute disgrace! Bet the er gets away without any punishment, or less penalty than doing 71 in a 70 four o'clock in the morning
bassfiend said:

Edited to say - The guy behind us just said that he didn't want to be involved. Great public spiritedness we have around here!!!

>>> Edited by bassfiend on Sunday 31st August 15:32
This example is driving me mad!! I hope like these come into a situation where they *need* witnesses, and all replies they get is the same they said "sorry, don't want to get involved".
Is anyone still doubting, why a democracy doesn't work without all participants being appropriatly educated, and having a minimum of conscience?

pies

13,116 posts

276 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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Gutted for you mate,i sincerly hope he gets hi come-uppance

Hope the neck recovers

granville

18,764 posts

281 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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Bodo said:
What an absolute disgrace! Bet the er gets away without any punishment, or less penalty than doing 71 in a 70 four o'clock in the morning
bassfiend said:

Edited to say - The guy behind us just said that he didn't want to be involved. Great public spiritedness we have around here!!!

>>> Edited by bassfiend on Sunday 31st August 15:32

This example is driving me mad!! I hope like these come into a situation where they *need* witnesses, and all replies they get is the same they said "sorry, don't want to get involved".
Is anyone still doubting, why a democracy doesn't work without all participants being appropriatly educated, and having a minimum of conscience?


Do what?

How did this piece of sh1t not know you weren't a bleedin' kick boxing afficionado, or maybe some soldier on leave?

Scum like this who are prepared to physically attack totally innocent persons with utterly no reason should expect the worst: frankly, he should be rounded up by the BiB and receive a first class punishment beating - and F@CK his civil liberties/human rights - they were forgone the moment he struck our cohort here...

If he subsequently offends, kill the steaming turd, by death.

ABSOLUTELY UN-FRICKING-ACCEPTABLE!!!

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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Jesus mate. This is becoming far and away all too familiar these days.
It seems you cant go even on the shortest trip without some idiot either trying to hit you or kill you.
I suspect if i had the missus and kids in the car, i may have done just as you did. If id been on my own, theyd have carted him off in an ambulance. Its not on, especially as you let him in.
Lets hope the police take this up, i wonder if you can "insist" that they do something, and if you get the chance, press charges and make a statement.
Who knows how many others he'll try and bully, or worse.
Hope youve recovered somewhat, its not nice to be on the recieving end of this kind of treatment, which is why i made it a part of what i am to always take these kinds of bastards on, and back them down.
Kindest regards to you and your family, and i really hope he gets done bigtime.

bassfiend

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5,530 posts

270 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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derestrictor said:

Scum like this who are prepared to physically attack totally innocent persons with utterly no reason should expect the worst: frankly, he should be rounded up by the BiB and receive a first class punishment beating - and F@CK his civil liberties/human rights - they were forgone the moment he struck our cohort here...


To be honest this is just reaffirming why I want to get away from the South of the country - (IIRC) this the second time in as many weeks that I've posted up here a roadrage incident that I thought had gone a step or two too far.

derestrictor said:

If he subsequently offends, kill the steaming turd, by death.


You know of another way to kill someone other than by death?

Phil

elms

1,954 posts

272 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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I know its all a bit raw still but why not take out a private prosecution against this loser, once/if the police trace him?

bassfiend

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5,530 posts

270 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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elms said:
I know its all a bit raw still but why not take out a private prosecution against this loser, once/if the police trace him?


Mainly because it's my (and my wife's) word against his at the end of the day (without an independent witness), it's grief that I would rather avoid (because the chances of me seeing him again are pretty minimal) and money that I would rather be spending on a Tiv ...

... but at least he wasn't speeding when he punched me, right?

Phil

sheepy

3,164 posts

269 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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Bodo said:

bassfiend said:

Edited to say - The guy behind us just said that he didn't want to be involved. Great public spiritedness we have around here!!!

>>> Edited by bassfiend on Sunday 31st August 15:32

This example is driving me mad!! I hope like these come into a situation where they *need* witnesses, and all replies they get is the same they said "sorry, don't want to get involved".
Is anyone still doubting, why a democracy doesn't work without all participants being appropriatly educated, and having a minimum of conscience?


I was involved in a serious incident on Friday where a suspected shoplifter took a tesco's staff member hostage as he made his getaway. Fortunately he crashed at the next set of lights and when he tried to flee on foot, I caught him (I'm not btw, just a passerby). After pinning him to a wall for five or ten minutes, turned up and nicked him. Only at that point did I look about to see fifteen or twenty people stood watching. OK so one other guy helped me restrain him (he grabbed an arm), but no-one else bothered to offer a hand. When the WPC started asking for witnesses, the crowd disappeared faster than hailstones in June! WTF is wrong with these people? It's not like they were required to do much, just one or two other people grabbing an arm or leg would have made my struggle non-existant. Bloody rubber-necking sheep!

Sheepy

Apache

39,731 posts

304 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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I've seen this happen before and the attacker was a pikey in this instance. My son was a victim, my PH comrades have been victims, I'm fed up with this shit.
What was the number of the car btw?

bassfiend

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5,530 posts

270 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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Apache said:
What was the number of the car btw?


I've got the number but don't think it appropriate to post it up here ...

Basically I've had it up to here (points at an area somewhere above head) with this kind of behaviour ... I do 130miles round trip just to and from work and spend at *LEAST* 3 hours a day in the car and this kind of thing is getting far more common to see - of course had there been any sort of vehicular police presence then I'm sure he'd never have got out of his car so this kind of thing has to go pretty much unseen by the BiB.

One other thing though - it was a real pig of a job actually *REPORTING* it ... I tried to find a local police station and of the people we asked in the various villages we were invariably told "Well there is one ... but it's closed on Sundays."

It was only down to the guys at Fernhursts going to the trouble of finding me the appropriate phone numbers that this got reported in the first place...

Phil

Bodo

12,428 posts

286 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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sheepy said:

Bodo said:


bassfiend said:

Edited to say - The guy behind us just said that he didn't want to be involved. Great public spiritedness we have around here!!!

>>> Edited by bassfiend on Sunday 31st August 15:32


This example is driving me mad!! I hope like these come into a situation where they *need* witnesses, and all replies they get is the same they said "sorry, don't want to get involved".
Is anyone still doubting, why a democracy doesn't work without all participants being appropriatly educated, and having a minimum of conscience?



I was involved in a serious incident on Friday where a suspected shoplifter took a tesco's staff member hostage as he made his getaway. Fortunately he crashed at the next set of lights and when he tried to flee on foot, I caught him (I'm not btw, just a passerby). After pinning him to a wall for five or ten minutes, turned up and nicked him. Only at that point did I look about to see fifteen or twenty people stood watching. OK so one other guy helped me restrain him (he grabbed an arm), but no-one else bothered to offer a hand. When the WPC started asking for witnesses, the crowd disappeared faster than hailstones in June! WTF is wrong with these people? It's not like they were required to do much, just one or two other people grabbing an arm or leg would have made my struggle non-existant. Bloody rubber-necking sheep!

Sheepy
I read your thread (I've even made a comment). Your behaviour was absolutely spot-on and exemplary for everyone who believes in civilisation! Big thumps up

Apache

39,731 posts

304 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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Your call of course mate, but I would see it as you doing us all a service, after all, we could be the next victim if you know what I mean.
I guess now that the traffic cop is being replaced by the 'safety' camera we will see more of this behaviour

bassfiend

Original Poster:

5,530 posts

270 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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sheepy said:
After pinning him to a wall for five or ten minutes, turned up and nicked him. Only at that point did I look about to see fifteen or twenty people stood watching. OK so one other guy helped me restrain him (he grabbed an arm), but no-one else bothered to offer a hand.


Personally Sheepy I find your actions entirely inappropriate and irresponsible...

...I mean how *DARE* you infringe on the human rights of the person who you restrained when all around you are people behaving responsibly and within the law and demonstrating to you just how we should all act in todays e*d up society.

Watch out for the little scrote pressing charges against you for ABH when he finds a bruise on his arm...

...I believe this is what's called "progress".

Phil

bassfiend

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Sunday 31st August 2003
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Apache said:
Your call of course mate, but I would see it as you doing us all a service, after all, we could be the next victim if you know what I mean.
I guess now that the traffic cop is being replaced by the 'safety' camera we will see more of this behaviour


Believe me - at the moment there is nothing I would love more than to see this bloke getting ass-raped in a cell and at the time, the temptation to grab the Maglite from beside the seat and follow him back to his car was something that really scares me now thinking back.

I just want to see whether the Surrey / Hants police will even follow this up...

Phil

zetec

4,926 posts

271 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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Apache said:
Your call of course mate, but I would see it as you doing us all a service, after all, we could be the next victim if you know what I mean.
I guess now that the traffic cop is being replaced by the 'safety' camera we will see more of this behaviour


I agree the plate should be posted, I hope we are all above a sort of vigilante reprisal. I have never been accosted before on the road and I hope I never will be. I feel for you and your family and hope you recover quickly.
The actions of the neanderthal were truley out of order, by posting the plate and encouriging others to do the same there could be some sort of rouges gallery.
But, I do feel the BiB may find it difficult to prosecute as the actions of said individual are those of a coward whose car is unregistered.

tonyrec

3,984 posts

275 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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Phil,
Im pleased that you reported it and tust that you got the 2 most important things, the correct vehicle index and a very good description of the scroat.

The thing that disappoints me most in all of this is the person who witnessed this incident whose evidence could easily put this person away....didnt want to get involved. I wish that i had a quid for everytime ive heard this!
Its not always the Police that are at fault here...i blame public spirit, or to put it another way, a persons reluctance to fight slag like this.

Sounds like you got away quite lightly, he could easily have had a knife or worse...!

If you dont hear anything in a couple of days then please chase this up and i would be grateful if you would email me with the index.

I hope that it was/is registered to someone and is not just some form of 'pikey transport'.

Anyway, sorry to change the subject but how was the car?

Don

28,378 posts

304 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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Bassfiend: Please do press charges. This s**head needs to feel FEAR to stop behaving like a total tw*t. He obviously thinks that its OK to punch people with no provocation...and he needs to learn that it is NOT.

Get him a criminal record to up his life properly. Its not revenge. Its a public service.


Oh...and please don't give up on the South. Its not all mouthy tw*ts darn sarf. We get the best weather and there is lovely countryside...you just need to head out into it in that fantastic Chimaera...