Is your vehicle registered at your address?
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Cant find this thread started anywhere, so hope it not a duplicate.
Front page news today about drivers using shadow addresses and flouting the law with impunity and ignoring requests and court order fees. With no onus on the resident to say where the owner lives, police and local authourities can rarely be bothered to chase them. The DVLA allows motorists to register their vehicles at `care of` addresses which might include a friend, doctor, hotel or hostel. The scheme was introduced to help people such as travellers who may not have a permanent address. It is costing the state millions in `lost` revenue.
Captain Gatso has supplied an address in chelmsford where hundreds of people register their vehicles, throw everything in the bin apart from the Tax Disc, he has 3 vehicles registered in scotland and lives in london, he never pays congestion charges or fines.
Anyone care to comment?
Front page news today about drivers using shadow addresses and flouting the law with impunity and ignoring requests and court order fees. With no onus on the resident to say where the owner lives, police and local authourities can rarely be bothered to chase them. The DVLA allows motorists to register their vehicles at `care of` addresses which might include a friend, doctor, hotel or hostel. The scheme was introduced to help people such as travellers who may not have a permanent address. It is costing the state millions in `lost` revenue.
Captain Gatso has supplied an address in chelmsford where hundreds of people register their vehicles, throw everything in the bin apart from the Tax Disc, he has 3 vehicles registered in scotland and lives in london, he never pays congestion charges or fines.
Anyone care to comment?
The loopholes in Britain never cease to amaze me, CCTV everywhere, GATSOs, ANPR in the cop cars, big brother everywhere.
Yet, you can ignore fines via loopholes and get away with it.
In America if you let your insurance lapse, they suspend your plates and/or your license. Don't pay a parking ticket? License suspended. Ignore a speeding charge? License suspended, arrest warrant issued.
Yet, you can ignore fines via loopholes and get away with it.
In America if you let your insurance lapse, they suspend your plates and/or your license. Don't pay a parking ticket? License suspended. Ignore a speeding charge? License suspended, arrest warrant issued.
Z4monster said:
Surely you're just more likely to get pulled by cops with ANPR in their vehicles. All the fines and summons are still registered to your car reg. They'll get you eventually, there is no escape!
How is that going to stop anything, when all they have to do is change the name of the registered owner and say you just bought it "Log book on the way"?Captain Cadillac said:
The loopholes in Britain never cease to amaze me, CCTV everywhere, GATSOs, ANPR in the cop cars, big brother everywhere.
Yet, you can ignore fines via loopholes and get away with it.
In America if you let your insurance lapse, they suspend your plates and/or your license. Don't pay a parking ticket? License suspended. Ignore a speeding charge? License suspended, arrest warrant issued.
Exactly, if there is a loophole, then expect it to be exploited.Yet, you can ignore fines via loopholes and get away with it.
In America if you let your insurance lapse, they suspend your plates and/or your license. Don't pay a parking ticket? License suspended. Ignore a speeding charge? License suspended, arrest warrant issued.
Z4monster said:
Surely you're just more likely to get pulled by cops with ANPR in their vehicles. All the fines and summons are still registered to your car reg. They'll get you eventually, there is no escape!
Are the fines etc in the ANPR database?Why not just make it so that you cannot tax a car with outstanding fines?
Do it every time I move, incl passport Driving Licence and bank accounts etc. Pain in the arse for a few weekends sorting it all out but once its done thats it (after doing it once and finding it such a nightmare I now keep all the documents together so dead easy next time to sort it all out).
Isnt there a fine if your Driving licence has the incorrect address &/or name of up to £5k?
Isnt there a fine if your Driving licence has the incorrect address &/or name of up to £5k?
Captain Cadillac said:
The loopholes in Britain never cease to amaze me, CCTV everywhere, GATSOs, ANPR in the cop cars, big brother everywhere.
Yet, you can ignore fines via loopholes and get away with it.
In America if you let your insurance lapse, they suspend your plates and/or your license. Don't pay a parking ticket? License suspended. Ignore a speeding charge? License suspended, arrest warrant issued.
Now that would stop all the pikeys in their tracks, or would it ?Yet, you can ignore fines via loopholes and get away with it.
In America if you let your insurance lapse, they suspend your plates and/or your license. Don't pay a parking ticket? License suspended. Ignore a speeding charge? License suspended, arrest warrant issued.
Welshbeef said:
Do it every time I move, incl passport Driving Licence and bank accounts etc. Pain in the arse for a few weekends sorting it all out but once its done thats it (after doing it once and finding it such a nightmare I now keep all the documents together so dead easy next time to sort it all out).
Isnt there a fine if your Driving licence has the incorrect address &/or name of up to £5k?
DVLA relies on honesty from its users, cant imagine they have any way of knowing its an incorrect address.Isnt there a fine if your Driving licence has the incorrect address &/or name of up to £5k?
Not really a loophole I am afraid. All correspondence is sent to the registered keepers address and to falsely register an incorrect address is an offence. As is ignoring letters, as is not declaring this to your insurance company etc etc.
If you are caught then you run the risk of some HEAVY fines and even much more than that. The list of offences are as long as your arm and the biggest risk is that you haven't declared this to your insurer and hence driving without insurance - which runs the risk of seizure and crushing....
By all means, take the risk if you feel it is worth it. Just don't get caught, and if you do, don't bleat about it.
If you are caught then you run the risk of some HEAVY fines and even much more than that. The list of offences are as long as your arm and the biggest risk is that you haven't declared this to your insurer and hence driving without insurance - which runs the risk of seizure and crushing....
By all means, take the risk if you feel it is worth it. Just don't get caught, and if you do, don't bleat about it.
off_again said:
Not really a loophole I am afraid. All correspondence is sent to the registered keepers address and to falsely register an incorrect address is an offence. As is ignoring letters, as is not declaring this to your insurance company etc etc.
If you are caught then you run the risk of some HEAVY fines and even much more than that. The list of offences are as long as your arm and the biggest risk is that you haven't declared this to your insurer and hence driving without insurance - which runs the risk of seizure and crushing....
By all means, take the risk if you feel it is worth it. Just don't get caught, and if you do, don't bleat about it.
Doesn't the insurer ask for both the address it's registered too and the address it's parked at overnight? Mine does. What's to stop people telling them the 'alternate' address - then they'd be insured. If you are caught then you run the risk of some HEAVY fines and even much more than that. The list of offences are as long as your arm and the biggest risk is that you haven't declared this to your insurer and hence driving without insurance - which runs the risk of seizure and crushing....
By all means, take the risk if you feel it is worth it. Just don't get caught, and if you do, don't bleat about it.
My vehicles are registered to our home address. I plan to change this in the imminent future however, due to the the possible risks assosciated with the clients I work with. It would not be beyond the realms of possibility for one of them to incorporate me into a delusional belief system, and subsequently arrive on my doorstep one day via the DVLA......
This is the same reason that the "Home" facility on my satnav is set to the local train station....
This is the same reason that the "Home" facility on my satnav is set to the local train station....
hairykrishna said:
[Doesn't the insurer ask for both the address it's registered too and the address it's parked at overnight? Mine does. What's to stop people telling them the 'alternate' address - then they'd be insured.
Bingo.Some do, some don't. Some just ask if you are the registered keeper and if it is registered to the same address where it is kept. That pretty much covers 99% of circumstances. If you fall outside of this sequence of questions then you are either not telling the whole truth or you will have an increased premium as a result.
In the past I have insured a car that was not kept at my address - not a problem and I declared it. Insurance went up around £50 as a result, and I got lots more questions as a result. Not a problem, but failure to declare this does render your insurance invalid and hence potentially driving without insurance - not worth the risk.
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