Parking ticket question
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tossbag

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Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Hope this is the right place for this.
I got a parking ticket last week, I was on single yellows which were invisible due to snow / ice.
I thought I was in an OK sopt, but apparently not, now a friend who parked in front of me also got a ticket, his was in the yellow and black plastic bag, and signed.
My wasn't in a bag, and it wasn't signed either, which I thought was odd.
I don't really mind paying the £35 to be honest, this is mor eof a general enquiry, does the fact that I couldn't see any road markings / the ticket being unsigned give me any potential case to not pay up?
Again, I don't mind paying, I do think I did wrong here, but I just thought I would pose the question.
Ta!

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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tossbag said:
Hope this is the right place for this.
No, no it's not.

tossbag

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Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Plod section?
  • slaps head*

hornetrider

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tossbag

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Wednesday 14th January 2009
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I can't move it so I will let it lie in here in hopes it gets moved or a kind soul sheds some light on my question, thanks smile

hornetrider

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Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Don't mind me, I'm a bottle of Shiraz down and really should be off to bed hehe

tossbag

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Wednesday 14th January 2009
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hornetrider said:
Don't mind me, I'm a bottle of Shiraz down and really should be off to bed hehe
6 cans of Miller and same here wink

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

273 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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One can only try Tossbag.

Try appealing the Ticket which should explain the process?

The grounds that under Traffic Signs and General Directions 2002 there is an obligation on the authorities to sign a prohibition/restriction so that motorists comply. In your case the line was not visible because of being covered with snow,so how were you to know?.

The Council did not clear the road by snowploughing/salting so that the lines were visible. Whilst lines are normally accompanied by upright signs if it was a large town then they may have been granted a Permitted and Special Parking Area Order
enabling them to dispense with the uprights providing details are shown on the entrance sign to the Zone.

Don't be surprised if they reject but worth a try and make them earn their corn.

dvd

davemac250

4,499 posts

234 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Some digging around on pepipoo gives some more info.

Basically, get a weather report from the Met Office to show there was snow on the ground, both when you parked and if possible for the time the ticket was issued.

Write to the adjudicator with this information. They should recind the ticket if the markings were not clear when you parked and when the ticket is issued.

It appears that some councils only look at the weather conditions when the ticket is issued, which can seem harsh, but is understandable in some ways. Otherwise we would all have parked at last snowfall!

Am unsure about the signing of the ticket, I would have though this would have invalidated it. Cetrainly would have with a police ticket. That I'd ring up about, say you have had a ticket put o the car, it is unsigned and you suspect someone of mucking about. Do not give them too much detail or the opportunity to amend the mistake.

tossbag

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Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Thanks for the advice guys.
Just got off the phone to a nice lady who said that the snow on the ground would be taken into account, and that there is no legal requirement for a ticket to be signed, which is new info for me.
It was suggested that I write to appeal the ticket, which I may as well do really, even if it's just to see the process through.
Thanks again!

Dwight VanDriver

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Wednesday 14th January 2009
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She is right. Under the Schedule to the Regs the fact that a signature is required in a PCN is not a requirement at law.

dvd