guys somebody please help i think i have lost my license
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Im absolutely gutted because i think i have lost my license, i just got pulled and have been given 3 points because the inside of my front right wheel is 1.4mm. I need my license to commute to work and lose everything if i don't have it. I allready have 3 points, so with these it will equal 6. BUT i have had my Full bike license well over 2 years. so how many pints can i get?
Ok the back of my license reads:
A: BIKE : 28 06 06 << Passed full test
B: CAR : 30 11 07 << Passed full test
I love my bikes and cars and know its my fault that i have been done for this and i should have checked the tyres.
Can anybody advise?
Ok the back of my license reads:
A: BIKE : 28 06 06 << Passed full test
B: CAR : 30 11 07 << Passed full test
I love my bikes and cars and know its my fault that i have been done for this and i should have checked the tyres.
Can anybody advise?
308mate said:
You got points for that? You were either pulled by a git, or you failed the RAT?
Why? The legislation is clear on this that the tyre must be legal across the centre three quarters of the tyre's breadth.Dodgy tyres limit handling, braking and steering capabilities.
Nobody made the OP drive with a defective tyre and not until caught was it an issue for him, although he won't lose his licence through it he thought he might have.
It's his licence and up to him to look after it, it's not the job of Bib to cut him slack to keep it.
G51CAV said:
308mate said:
You got points for that? You were either pulled by a git, or you failed the RAT?
Why? The legislation is clear on this that the tyre must be legal across the centre three quarters of the tyre's breadth.tyres limit handling, braking and steering capabilities.
Nobody made the OP drive with a defective tyre and not until caught was it an issue for him, although he won't lose his licence through it he thought he might have.
It's his licence and up to him to look after it, it's not the job of Bib to cut him slack to keep it.
However, My main concern is that i may lose my license. And was unsure if i could accumulate six points without losing the privilege of being mobile?
kevr6 said:
...the inside of my front right wheel is 1.4mm.
G51CAV said:
The legislation is clear on this that the tyre must be legal across the centre three quarters of the tyre's breadth.
So the question obviously is whether "the inside of his front wheel" extends to the border of the centre 3/4s of the tread.The legislation does not appear to define how to measure "the tyre's breadth". Depending on exactly how much of his tread is too low, his tyre may actually be legal - certainly worth double-checking.
G51CAV said:
Dodgy tyres limit handling, braking and steering capabilities.
So do potholes and gouges in the road, but I dont see our council rushing to fix them - is it worth complaining to them do you think, on the grounds that whats the point of having a safe and legal car, if they fall down on the safety aspect of road surfacing?OP should mention this in court!
flemke said:
kevr6 said:
...the inside of my front right wheel is 1.4mm.
G51CAV said:
The legislation is clear on this that the tyre must be legal across the centre three quarters of the tyre's breadth.
So the question obviously is whether "the inside of his front wheel" extends to the border of the centre 3/4s of the tread.The legislation does not appear to define how to measure "the tyre's breadth". Depending on exactly how much of his tread is too low, his tyre may actually be legal - certainly worth double-checking.
ETA to those that think he deserves 3 points, get a ruler pencil and paper, and mark off two lines at 1.6mm then 1.4mm.
If you can't give someone a warning for this, albeit a stern warning with the threat of points, I think it's a shame.
Edited by deeps on Thursday 15th January 00:49
1.6 is the absolute minimum allowed. At what point does it become unacceptable if the minimum is not going to be enforced? Tyres are not hard to check - the manufacturers even put little bumps in them for those not bothered enough to buy a depth gauge.
If you have held a full bike licence for more than 2 years then you are OK for 12 points. New drivers does not apply every time you add a category.
If you have held a full bike licence for more than 2 years then you are OK for 12 points. New drivers does not apply every time you add a category.
Mill Wheel said:
G51CAV said:
Dodgy tyres limit handling, braking and steering capabilities.
So do potholes and gouges in the road, but I dont see our council rushing to fix them - is it worth complaining to them do you think, on the grounds that whats the point of having a safe and legal car, if they fall down on the safety aspect of road surfacing?OP should mention this in court!
If you think that something is dangerous then by all means report it although in the Op's case I fail to see why this would be relevant.
0.2mm isn't much, but lets face it, 1.6mm across the central three quarters may be law but it's too little tread depth. If any part of my tyres get to 2mm they get replaced.
Sorry you got caught, but better than finding out the hard way they were worn by waking up, upside down in a ditch.
Sorry you got caught, but better than finding out the hard way they were worn by waking up, upside down in a ditch.
Got pulled up on this in work, well not me personally
VOSA were out, doing good, dipping tanks, young lad that worked for us got pulled to check for red diesel, found none.
However he was a chopsie/chopsy/chopsy, how do you spell that, never had to before. Anyway he was a chopsie little t
t, and upset the VOSA blokey, who then did a full roadsdie check, revoked vans mot on the spot, for having ONE spot lower than 1.6mm of tread. What he didnt count on is us getting it measured by a few other people, lowest spot on whole tyre was, 2.24mm, granted low, and due for a change, matter of principles.
But we challenged it, got a new mot put back on the van, and a grumble of an apology of the vosa blokey... I say get the tyre checked to see if it is fully legal and fight it. But to be honest, you know when a tyre is getting low, on tread visually, and should be sorted asap.
On another instance I have been pulled up on it before by a copper, untill I told him I had the tyres checked early, and they were perfectly legal.
check the tyre, if its legal, fight it, if its illegal, take it as a warning, and check your tyres more regulary
VOSA were out, doing good, dipping tanks, young lad that worked for us got pulled to check for red diesel, found none.
However he was a chopsie/chopsy/chopsy, how do you spell that, never had to before. Anyway he was a chopsie little t
t, and upset the VOSA blokey, who then did a full roadsdie check, revoked vans mot on the spot, for having ONE spot lower than 1.6mm of tread. What he didnt count on is us getting it measured by a few other people, lowest spot on whole tyre was, 2.24mm, granted low, and due for a change, matter of principles.But we challenged it, got a new mot put back on the van, and a grumble of an apology of the vosa blokey... I say get the tyre checked to see if it is fully legal and fight it. But to be honest, you know when a tyre is getting low, on tread visually, and should be sorted asap.
On another instance I have been pulled up on it before by a copper, untill I told him I had the tyres checked early, and they were perfectly legal.
check the tyre, if its legal, fight it, if its illegal, take it as a warning, and check your tyres more regulary
kevr6 said:
kevr6 said:
ok its just i thought that if i have had my full motorcycle license longer then two years i had 12 points vailable?
The New Drivers Act period of 2 years, applies from the day you passed your 'first test'.
If you passed your bike test over 2 years ago it doesn't apply to you. You have no threat of revocation.
Plotloss said:
Does strike me as slightly over the top to give points for 0.2mm under
Stern talking to and a rectification notice would surely have been a more pragmatic way forward?
I got banned many years ago for exactly the same thing, in retrospect I know fine well it was incorrect as it was purely the outside of the tyres which was overly worn, but lack of knowledge and a lie down and take it attitude with the plod meant my two rears got me a 6 month ban. Stern talking to and a rectification notice would surely have been a more pragmatic way forward?
G51CAV said:
Mill Wheel said:
G51CAV said:
Dodgy tyres limit handling, braking and steering capabilities.
So do potholes and gouges in the road, but I dont see our council rushing to fix them - is it worth complaining to them do you think, on the grounds that whats the point of having a safe and legal car, if they fall down on the safety aspect of road surfacing?OP should mention this in court!
If you think that something is dangerous then by all means report it although in the Op's case I fail to see why this would be relevant.
I tend to use winter tyres in winter und summer tyres in summer. I suppose habit from home .. or perhaps necessary cos of where we live up here.
But even so .. the road surfaces on some roads are lethal und they would do best to mend the roads as first priority.
As for the OP - he could have the tyre checked by three experts at the tyre garages to be sure for his own peace of mind. Then learn to check tyres each week. I check mine one week .. then because gauges may be inaccurate - at the same local tyre place each fortnight.
I am a bit of a 
on my tyres. They are the car's "shoes" after all (Jag does have summer tyres on shelf in ) Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff