Can a child own/have title to a vehicle ?
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Only reason I ask is that my sister knows of people in their street using their kids names on title documents to fob off parking fines and prosecution.
My Brother in law found out when at the local poker school and alcohol had loosened some tongues...
Can this really be true or are the neighbours in for a nasty shock when the council finally gets wise?
My Brother in law found out when at the local poker school and alcohol had loosened some tongues...
Can this really be true or are the neighbours in for a nasty shock when the council finally gets wise?
Edited by Mr Fenix on Saturday 24th January 08:44
contact the DVLA via their website. If they say it is illegal then report the people doing this. It's because of these selfish idiots that everone else who follows the rules ends up paying more. If they are in fact uninsured, it doesn't bode very well for anyone who ends up in an accident with them - which could be you.
Get the info from the DVLA and then if they are breaking the law, go to the police.
Get the info from the DVLA and then if they are breaking the law, go to the police.
I skim-read an artricle on this recently in the Evening Standard (qulaity rag, I know). I think the motivation was that the authorisites wouldnt pursue difficult cases.
From the DVLA's persepctive, I think they said it was a grey area which, at present, was still legal (they were using other peoples addresses, not childs names). I think the problmes would come from insurance companies. How would you tax a car in your childs name?
Sounds like a lot of hassle for me. Much wiser to try and play by the rules we all play by and stop trying to avoid your responsibilites, IMO.
From the DVLA's persepctive, I think they said it was a grey area which, at present, was still legal (they were using other peoples addresses, not childs names). I think the problmes would come from insurance companies. How would you tax a car in your childs name?
Sounds like a lot of hassle for me. Much wiser to try and play by the rules we all play by and stop trying to avoid your responsibilites, IMO.
Don't know about the law now, buy when my then gf split from her husband, we registered her car in our dogs name as the legal keeper. We taxed her Saab with 'Honey' on the logbook for two years. Her point being that the dog slept in the car but was not the legal owner, hence she did not see anything illegal aboout it. Sadly I think the law has changed since then as you are required to have insurance now in the name of the registered keeper 
Would like to point out this is not for my dastardly ends, I'm in San Diego USA and have no rugrats to exploit !
Anyway
I would have thought the car would be un insurable, ergo illegal on UK roads? My guess is that the council aren't savvy enough to pursue the outstanding fines and continue to fire out threatening letters...
I would also argue its fraud of some sort but basic definition of fraud in Scots Criminal law is the intent or act of deceptively acquiring money, assets or services to the detriment of another party.
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k it I'll tell sis to call into local cop shop and speak to community police officer. The neighbour in question is a "sketchy" sort of guy anyway.
Anyway
I would have thought the car would be un insurable, ergo illegal on UK roads? My guess is that the council aren't savvy enough to pursue the outstanding fines and continue to fire out threatening letters...
I would also argue its fraud of some sort but basic definition of fraud in Scots Criminal law is the intent or act of deceptively acquiring money, assets or services to the detriment of another party.
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k it I'll tell sis to call into local cop shop and speak to community police officer. The neighbour in question is a "sketchy" sort of guy anyway.
Are the licence laws specifically for humans?
Say you had a really clever dog or something and you taught it how to drive and pass a test, and to talk so it could talk to the examiner, would it be allowed to have a licence? I mean so long as it can prove it's as good at driving as a human, that's ok isn't it?
Probably a grey area as no laws saying "this is only for people".
Say you had a really clever dog or something and you taught it how to drive and pass a test, and to talk so it could talk to the examiner, would it be allowed to have a licence? I mean so long as it can prove it's as good at driving as a human, that's ok isn't it?
Probably a grey area as no laws saying "this is only for people".
You don't have to be the legal owner or registered keeper of the car to have insurance on it. All the leased cars out there are registered to the leasing companies and are owned by them. My insurance documents clearly state that I am not the legal owner or registered keeper of my insured vehicle so I am fully insured.
I suppose there is nothing wrong with putting someone elses name as the registered keeper. But I would expect the kids to have a shock on their 17th birthday and may not be able to drive until they are 65!!
I suppose there is nothing wrong with putting someone elses name as the registered keeper. But I would expect the kids to have a shock on their 17th birthday and may not be able to drive until they are 65!!
Carpie said:
Are the licence laws specifically for humans?
Say you had a really clever dog or something and you taught it how to drive and pass a test, and to talk so it could talk to the examiner, would it be allowed to have a licence? I mean so long as it can prove it's as good at driving as a human, that's ok isn't it?
Probably a grey area as no laws saying "this is only for people".
Wow, it would have to be one hell of a big dog to work the pedals at the same time as moving the wheel and indicators whilst looking in the mirror every ten seconds while all along sat on it's tailSay you had a really clever dog or something and you taught it how to drive and pass a test, and to talk so it could talk to the examiner, would it be allowed to have a licence? I mean so long as it can prove it's as good at driving as a human, that's ok isn't it?
Probably a grey area as no laws saying "this is only for people".
Andyuk911 said:
I have heard of this, but I think you will just end up in a bigger mess.
Most insurance companies have the phrase that you own the vehicle and are the registered keeper ... so maybe they are not insured now ...
Perhaps the parents are named drivers on the policy, which is in the child's name?Most insurance companies have the phrase that you own the vehicle and are the registered keeper ... so maybe they are not insured now ...
Mill Wheel said:
Andyuk911 said:
I have heard of this, but I think you will just end up in a bigger mess.
Most insurance companies have the phrase that you own the vehicle and are the registered keeper ... so maybe they are not insured now ...
Perhaps the parents are named drivers on the policy, which is in the child's name?Most insurance companies have the phrase that you own the vehicle and are the registered keeper ... so maybe they are not insured now ...
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