Points off licence?
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amaftau

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212 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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Am I right in thinking they are removed 3 years from DATE OF CONVICTION?

thanks

kong

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241 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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amaftau said:
Am I right in thinking they are removed 3 years from DATE OF CONVICTION?

thanks
They shouldn't get taken into consideration by anyone after 3 years, but you can't have them removed until 4 years have passed I think

amaftau

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Sunday 1st February 2009
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kong said:
amaftau said:
Am I right in thinking they are removed 3 years from DATE OF CONVICTION?

thanks
They shouldn't get taken into consideration by anyone after 3 years, but you can't have them removed until 4 years have passed I think
thanks for reply. does that mean if i get 9 points on 1/1/00 and on 2/1/03 i get 3 more I will not be banned as my 9 points will 'not get taken into consideration'

SimonV8ster

12,992 posts

257 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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Your 9 points should have already been removed if they were in 2000 ?

amaftau

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Sunday 1st February 2009
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so simon, they are REMOVED after 3 years so I would not ba banned in that scenario? is that correct anyone?

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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amaftau said:
so simon, they are REMOVED after 3 years so I would not ba banned in that scenario? is that correct anyone?
Simon is pointing out that they are 9 years old if you got them in 2000!!!!!!!

amaftau

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Sunday 1st February 2009
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garyhun said:
amaftau said:
so simon, they are REMOVED after 3 years so I would not ba banned in that scenario? is that correct anyone?
Simon is pointing out that they are 9 years old if you got them in 2000!!!!!!!
think you need to re-read my post

kong

596 posts

241 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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amaftau said:
kong said:
amaftau said:
Am I right in thinking they are removed 3 years from DATE OF CONVICTION?

thanks
They shouldn't get taken into consideration by anyone after 3 years, but you can't have them removed until 4 years have passed I think
thanks for reply. does that mean if i get 9 points on 1/1/00 and on 2/1/03 i get 3 more I will not be banned as my 9 points will 'not get taken into consideration'
As I understand it, yes. Probably worth checking with the DVLA though

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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amaftau said:
garyhun said:
amaftau said:
so simon, they are REMOVED after 3 years so I would not ba banned in that scenario? is that correct anyone?
Simon is pointing out that they are 9 years old if you got them in 2000!!!!!!!
think you need to re-read my post
I think you need to learn to write more clearly wink

SimonV8ster

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257 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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As has been stated they are not officially on your licence after three years but you cannot apply for them to be removed for another year.

If you have an old paper licence then they will remain on the licence forever in hard copy format until you apply for a new one, but they won't be valid. Don't know what happens with the new style licence, i'm an old bugger now.

You won't get banned as you will only have 3 points coming your way.

Edited by SimonV8ster on Sunday 1st February 10:18

whirligig

941 posts

224 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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Very good advice here from people who reallly know

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

amaftau

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305 posts

212 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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garyhun said:
amaftau said:
garyhun said:
amaftau said:
so simon, they are REMOVED after 3 years so I would not ba banned in that scenario? is that correct anyone?
Simon is pointing out that they are 9 years old if you got them in 2000!!!!!!!
think you need to re-read my post
I think you need to learn to write more clearly wink
mate this isnt bloody shakespeare.

I said:

amaftau said:
thanks for reply. does that mean if i get 9 points on 1/1/00 and on 2/1/03 i get 3 more I will not be banned as my 9 points will 'not get taken into consideration'
GET 9 points on 1/1/00, on 2/1/03 I get 3 more. I wanted to know what happens as most people don't really know for sure.

Do you understand now?

M

amaftau

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Sunday 1st February 2009
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whirligig said:
Very good advice here from people who reallly know

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Thanks alot, couldn't find that before making thread.

amaftau

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Sunday 1st February 2009
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it appears that link is 2 pages of arguements and disagreements.

Ganglandboss

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232 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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  • Convictions over 3 years old cannot be used for totting up. If you get 3 SP30s, at 3 points each, in the space of 2 years and you have one from over 3 years you will be okay.
  • After 4 years you can have them removed; to do this you just apply for a replacement licence.
  • You must declare any convictions within 5 years to your insurance company (in most cases) regardless of whether they are still showing on your licence.

Simpo Two

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294 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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amaftau said:
GET 9 points on 1/1/00, on 2/1/03 I get 3 more. I wanted to know what happens as most people don't really know for sure. Do you understand now? M
Kinell, whether it's 3 or 4 years doesn't matter as both 2000 and 2003 are more than even four years ago!banghead

SS2.

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267 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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amaftau said:
it appears that link is 2 pages of arguements and disagreements.
The answer to your original question (as is provided in the linked thread), is that points are ALWAYS valid for totting purposes for a period of three years from the date of the offence - irrespective of the nature of the offence, the number of points imposed, or whether the points resulted from a fixed penalty or a court appearance.

The duration of an endorsement upon a driver's licence and whether that duration commences from offence date or conviction date depends upon the nature of the offence.

amaftau

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Sunday 1st February 2009
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Simpo Two said:
amaftau said:
GET 9 points on 1/1/00, on 2/1/03 I get 3 more. I wanted to know what happens as most people don't really know for sure. Do you understand now? M
Kinell, whether it's 3 or 4 years doesn't matter as both 2000 and 2003 are more than even four years ago!banghead
john, you have mis-understood, which doesn'y matter as i have the answer.

marlinmunro

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234 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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Does anyone know why points cannot be removed at 3 years, considering they do not count toward toting up at that stage, seems odd. Mind you insurance companies take into account 5 year old points but thats just an extracting more money thing.

I remember being annoyed that a set of points I got, in very dubious circumstances were still on my licence after three years, however still on after much more than the four years. Just don't care now as points do not mean the same any more in the UK. They have lost the stigma because so many are given out.

SS2.

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267 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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marlinmunro said:
Does anyone know why points cannot be removed at 3 years, considering they do not count toward toting up at that stage, seems odd.
Historically (and AIUI), it was to ensure that all points which required to be taken into consideration when a sentence was being imposed were clearly apparent to the court - which they may not have been if the rules permitted an earlier removal of penalty points.