American Speeding Tickets???
American Speeding Tickets???
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carlosanna

Original Poster:

47 posts

236 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Hello....

Q: If I return to America with unpaid speeding fines would immigration have been informed about this?

I was stopped in Utah doing 105mph $340-00 fine, I thought fair cop, I will pay when I get chance before my holidays up!!

Then whilst driving through Oregon I was stopped doing 80mph, as always they have nothing to back this up, he just said I recon you were doing 80???? I did try and talk about this with him but he just went back to his car wrote a ticket out for $287 for speeding & $287 for following to close!!!!!

There was no one in front of me?? so as you can imagine it was very annoying!! couldn't argue this with him as he just tossed the ticket in the car and took off!! C##t!!!!!

It was at this point I decided not to pay any of the tickets? now back in the UK & having second thoughts?????

As this is not a Felony do you think it may cause me problems at Immigration upon my return??

Thanks for your help

Carlos


Mr Darcy

1,006 posts

201 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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No. I was clocked doing 130MPH in Cleveland several years ago. I was mean tot go to court for it but obviously never went. I pased through US immigration 2 days ago with no problems whatsoever and I am now sitting on my balcony in amberiscaye. Sweet sweet bliss!!!

TubbyRutter

2,086 posts

235 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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My old man has speeding tickets in the US from the 80s, I can't imagine they have his picture up at immigration.

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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they check pistonheads though.

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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carlosanna said:
Hello....

Q: If I return to America with unpaid speeding fines would immigration have been informed about this?

I was stopped in Utah doing 105mph $340-00 fine, I thought fair cop, I will pay when I get chance before my holidays up!!

Then whilst driving through Oregon I was stopped doing 80mph, as always they have nothing to back this up, he just said I recon you were doing 80???? I did try and talk about this with him but he just went back to his car wrote a ticket out for $287 for speeding & $287 for following to close!!!!!

There was no one in front of me?? so as you can imagine it was very annoying!! couldn't argue this with him as he just tossed the ticket in the car and took off!! C##t!!!!!

It was at this point I decided not to pay any of the tickets? now back in the UK & having second thoughts?????

As this is not a Felony do you think it may cause me problems at Immigration upon my return??

Thanks for your help

Carlos
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anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Don't pay. After all, it's a "foreign" country so the laws don't really apply to you.

That way you'll be taken straight to jail next time you get spotted in USA by Uncle Sam's computer systems, and save yourself the inconvenience of incurring any more speeding tickets.

marcosgt

11,498 posts

205 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Have they not chased you at home?

My wife has hassled with increasingly threatening letters some years ago for a New England (can't recall the exact state) speeding offence - In the end we paid.

M.


smele

1,284 posts

313 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Got tickets from various states for speeding and parking. What you will need to be aware of is that if you get pulled over again in the same state, there will be a warrant for your arrest.

jayfrancis

439 posts

237 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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I got a letter from an American car rental firm that I used in Arizona last summer saying I had been caught speeding (photo evidence)and picked up a parking ticket.

I phoned them to tell them to charge everthing to my credit card.

Never heard a dickie bird after that. Nothing has ever been charged to my card and I have no intention to pay anything now.

I gave them their chance, now sod em!

twiglove

1,178 posts

223 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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I think it depends on how determined the cop shop are in getting your money...I understood that any outstanding fines etc will be networked with the immigration and border control computer systems, so they can collar you when they scan your passport!

However these systems may not work very well/efficiently!

Let us know when you go back in

ctallchris

1,266 posts

208 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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If you can still pay them then and are thinking about returning to the US then do. If you never plan on returning to the US you might get away with waiting but assume it's the same as in the UK. If you don't pay them they will take you to the cleaners. The chances are they won't go to the trouble of passing the fine on to you.

You also have the maerican option of paying a lawyer to contest the charges. If you give them enough money everything will go away

ErnestM

11,621 posts

296 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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In the US, in most jurisdictions, if you don't pay your speeding tickets (or go to court), the court will issue a "bench warrant" for your arrest...

...After that, if you have any interaction with the authorities and they run you through the system, the warrant will appear. You will go to jail until such time as you can be extradited to whichever jurisdiction issued the warrant.

So, immigration may not catch you, but I wouldn't speed.

Tuscain

92 posts

198 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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I used to live in california for almost 7 years. Lost count of the nubmer of times that i got pulled over, guess it wasnt the smartest idea to buy a yamaha R1 at the age of 16 lol.

I had a ticket i forgot to pay before moving back to london, this was three years ago and i have been back about 4 times since. Got pulled over riding my friends Ducati on my last month long visit, and the cop had no idea about the unpaid ticket. However having friends that are in the CHP ( California Highway Patrol ), i enquired about said ticket and got informed that depending on which state you gpt issued is how serious they will take it.

I should also add that as far as I am aware, it is compulsory for you to sign the ticket as it is presented to you, so i find it hard to believe it just got thrown into the car? If this is the case however, and there is a signature requirement, it may not actually be valid as the cop should have made you sign it or upon refusal placed you under arrest.

But long story short, immigration will 99.9% have no idea about the outstanding ticket. But if you get a jobsworth traffic cop that has too much time on his hands he may be able to f@@k you by backtracking the syste, and asking questions/ demanding on the spot payment, or in the worst case placing you in a cell over night until traffic court opens up the following day. However seeing you are a freigner in the country this would seem slightly out of character.

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Forgot to mention in one of many traffic court sessions i went to, trying to dispute a ticket, even if no radar was used, either video and/ OR a mere verbal statement saying he counted distance between car and mile markers / trees/ anything in a fixed place can coutn as a valid parameter in establishing speeds. Thats how i got skanked doing 80 in a 30, a month after getting lciense back for going "180+ mph" on I-5 in california.

Didnt actually see the tt pull onto interstate so had no idea he was chasing me lol. Finally managed o pull me with 2 further cars assistance 10 miles later when traffi built up and i was caught at red light on offramp. Thought i was moving politely oput of cops way as everyone else around me, then got told over mic with guns drawn that i need to take keys out and throw them on the floor lol. Biggest WTF! moment of my life wink tt even ordered in air support (which he cancelled when i told him my story which he actually believed) but due to the fact helo was on its way it added another 600$ to ticket. Add to that 300$unsafe lane change (when i pulled over),595$ for speeding and another couple hudnred for "exhibition of speed", as well as inpound of 35 per day plus 500 towing fee = one very bad f@@@@@king day lol.


Edited by Tuscain on Thursday 8th April 19:00

carlosanna

Original Poster:

47 posts

236 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Tuscain said:
I used to live in california for almost 7 years. Lost count of the nubmer of times that i got pulled over, guess it wasnt the smartest idea to buy a yamaha R1 at the age of 16 lol.

I had a ticket i forgot to pay before moving back to london, this was three years ago and i have been back about 4 times since. Got pulled over riding my friends Ducati on my last month long visit, and the cop had no idea about the unpaid ticket. However having friends that are in the CHP ( California Highway Patrol ), i enquired about said ticket and got informed that depending on which state you gpt issued is how serious they will take it.

I should also add that as far as I am aware, it is compulsory for you to sign the ticket as it is presented to you, so i find it hard to believe it just got thrown into the car? If this is the case however, and there is a signature requirement, it may not actually be valid as the cop should have made you sign it or upon refusal placed you under arrest.

But long story short, immigration will 99.9% have no idea about the outstanding ticket. But if you get a jobsworth traffic cop that has too much time on his hands he may be able to f@@k you by backtracking the syste, and asking questions/ demanding on the spot payment, or in the worst case placing you in a cell over night until traffic court opens up the following day. However seeing you are a freigner in the country this would seem slightly out of character.

Edit:
Forgot to mention in one of many traffic court sessions i went to, trying to dispute a ticket, even if no radar was used, either video and/ OR a mere verbal statement saying he counted distance between car and mile markers / trees/ anything in a fixed place can coutn as a valid parameter in establishing speeds. Thats how i got skanked doing 80 in a 30, a month after getting lciense back for going "180+ mph" on I-5 in california.

Didnt actually see the tt pull onto interstate so had no idea he was chasing me lol. Finally managed o pull me with 2 further cars assistance 10 miles later when traffi built up and i was caught at red light on offramp. Thought i was moving politely oput of cops way as everyone else around me, then got told over mic with guns drawn that i need to take keys out and throw them on the floor lol. Biggest WTF! moment of my life wink tt even ordered in air support (which he cancelled when i told him my story which he actually believed) but due to the fact helo was on its way it added another 600$ to ticket. Add to that 300$unsafe lane change (when i pulled over),595$ for speeding and another couple hudnred for "exhibition of speed", as well as inpound of 35 per day plus 500 towing fee = one very bad f@@@@@king day lol.


Edited by Tuscain on Thursday 8th April 19:00
Wow!! That's a bad day Dude.... Thanks for the advise :-)

jaybkay

488 posts

249 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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I wouldn't pay, why would you?

Whilst there have been instances of a foreign speeding fine catching up with someone it is extremely rare - and the worst case scenario is having to pay at some point in the future - less than a 1% chance.

Australia sent me something a few years ago, and they had done well to track me down in New Zealand as I used my UK driving licence to hire a car (haven't lived there for ten years) - still ignored it.

I would also suggest when stopped in another country to give an alternative address, preferably one that doesn't exist anymore - that way you won't even get begging letters.

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

253 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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If you don't pay up, Tommy Lee Jones, and his assistants will chase you to the end of the earth until they have you dead or alive.

I wonder how may of our former colonists pay fines levied against them by our Constabularies? The USAF quite often shipped their boys home when they were collared for serious driving offences and then stonewalled the old bill with "We are not at liberty to reveal where this soldier has been redeployed Sir"


Nickyboy

6,824 posts

263 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Unless you showed them your passport and they made a record of your passport number etc then no you wont have any problems, if you did go back however and got in trouble with the police again then you could have problems, they note details there and then on their system in the car, make new profiles etc so if he did this then you would come up as a previous offender and worse case scenario be arrested there and then

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

217 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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thunderbelmont said:
If you don't pay up, Tommy Lee Jones, and his assistants will chase you to the end of the earth until they have you dead or alive.

I wonder how may of our former colonists pay fines levied against them by our Constabularies? The USAF quite often shipped their boys home when they were collared for serious driving offences and then stonewalled the old bill with "We are not at liberty to reveal where this soldier has been redeployed Sir"
The RAF were quite good at this too ! (both ways, UK to USA and USA to UK .... bless em)

h0b0

9,068 posts

225 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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I'm amazed at the hypocritical attitude to speeding laws in other countries from some posters. If this was a story of an Eastern European in the UK speeding at 130mph you would all be up in arms and wanting them locked up for life. However, when you go abroad you shouldn't be held accountable for your actions.

Next time I'm in the UK I'll remember to drive like a tt and not deal with the consequences.

(you don't have to sign speeding tickets in NJ)


Edited by h0b0 on Friday 9th April 00:07

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

217 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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h0b0 said:
I'm amazed at the hypocritical attitude to speeding laws in other countries from some posters. If this was a story of an Eastern European in the UK speeding at 130mph you would all be up in arms and wanting them locked up for life. However, when you go abroad you shouldn't be held accountable for your actions.

Next time I'm in the UK I'll remember to drive like a tt and not deal with the consequences.

(you don't have to sign speeding tickets in NJ)


Edited by h0b0 on Friday 9th April 00:07
Most others do, why should you be any different ?

(although our lot do seem to be cracking down a bit now, where they can)