97 in 70?

[Bohally]

FlauM said:

Yes I believe 95/96+ is entering ban territory.

I always thought it was 100+ was banning. Might have to start sitting at 95 on the speedo to be on the safe side

[pthelazyjourno]

FlauM said:

Yes I believe 95/96+ is entering ban territory.

I got pulled when I hit 95mph when overtaking and the BiB let me off with a stern talking to.

Never realised it was ban territory. Then again, never realised I was close to that speed, just hoofed it to get by as quickly as possible.

[RedOctober]

It used to be said that 30mph over the limit was a ban, but that's just not true-it depends on the individual circumstances-traffic & weather conditions etc. Generally speaking, 95mph or over in a 70mph zone is ban territory now.

If you were bombing along in heavy traffic & bad weather however, it could be argued that even 80mph on a motorway in poor conditions is considered 'Dangerous Driving' & not just speeding.

Once you're over the speed limit by whatever amount, then technically you're breaking the law-if you get caught then there's nothing you can do except to try & limit the damage to your licence. To be offered a FPN & 3 points is a pretty good result for doing 97mph in a 70mph zone.

Even if you were 'only' doing 80mph in a 70mph zone then you're still speeding & liable for a FPN/3points etc. If you choose to go to court to argue that you were not doing 97mph, you've got nothing to gain and everything to lose.

The magistrates could decide in your favour, in which case you'd still get a fine & points-or they could side with the police & decide you were so far over the 70mph limit that you were driving dangerously, giving you a driving ban etc.

If you've been alleged to be doing 97mph in a 70mph zone, then I wouldn't even consider arguing it in court-you're right on the 'ban' threshold, so just take the slap on the wrist & the standard FPN/3 points that the police officer gave you.

[mondeoman]

I was told by the nice plod who stopped me that over 96 is straight to court.

So unless you have a very good reason to believe that you weren't doing over 70 and can make a case from it, or the paperwork is wrong in some way, then I'd suggest taking this one on the chin and be glad you didn't get a summons. Its not nice, and I'm sure you weren't doing anything dangerous, but 3pts and £60 is a bargain.

[Rossdagley]

mondeoman said:

I was told by the nice plod who stopped me that over 96 is straight to court.

So unless you have a very good reason to believe that you weren't doing over 70 and can make a case from it, or the paperwork is wrong in some way, then I'd suggest taking this one on the chin and be glad you didn't get a summons. Its not nice, and I'm sure you weren't doing anything dangerous, but 3pts and £60 is a bargain.

It's still officer discretion over 96mph - you're not always sent straight to court. In the OP's case, take the points and be grateful!

I'm sure it's not the first time (or last) the OP will be doing these speeds - the 3 points makes up for the times he's not been caught. When you play the odds, eventually you're gonna run out of "luck"

[michael_JCWS]

Think I will count myself luck that the Police officer used his discretion, still not convinced I was going 97, but probably 80 ish. either way I'll take the slap on the wrist.

Clear straight road in excellent conditions, light traffic, in a year old car built to cruise on autobahns at 155. Still seems like we are stuck with 1960's laws

First points on licence in the 20 years I have had one. Do 3 points make much difference to insurance ?

[Pontoneer]

JumboBeef said:

What's a 'rest lane'?

Lay-by ?

Your guess ..........

[michael_JCWS]

yes

[Quietlybonkers]

michael_JCWS said:

First points on licence in the 20 years I have had one. Do 3 points make much difference to insurance ?

In my experience, no effect. But that's my wife doing 42 in a 30. Seems the insurers accept that anyone can get three 3 points without being a hooligan

[Trophybloo]

michael_JCWS said:

Think I will count myself luck that the Police officer used his discretion, still not convinced I was going 97, but probably 80 ish. either way I'll take the slap on the wrist.

Clear straight road in excellent conditions, light traffic, in a year old car built to cruise on autobahns at 155. Still seems like we are stuck with 1960's laws

First points on licence in the 20 years I have had one. Do 3 points make much difference to insurance ?

Unfortunately we are still dealing with 1930s road design in many parts of the country hence many A roads being limited to 50mph. The limits are there to deal with worst possible case and it just isn't practicable to have one law for ABS modern braked vehicles and another for the 30 year old classics that are legally roadworthy. Can of worms I think! Oh and yes you must declare the points to your insurance provider and they will up your premium for 5 years. Quietly Bonker's other half must have been incredibly lucky and that doesn't seem to be the case for you

Edited by Trophybloo on Wednesday 1st August 11:07