Keep left signs

[vipers]

Any views on this one chaps. Road is fairly quiet, council erect a central reservation, (thats what I think you call it, island thingy), so you can cross half way, wait, and cross the other half.

Now they put up a bus stop just far enough in front of so when the bus stops, as you pass the island, you are right up the rear of the bus, and pulling out to pass is somewhat difficult.

Myself and others tend to pull out before the island (which incidently has keep left signs on) to pass the bus safely. Why they put the bus stop there god only knows. After all as you sit behind this bus, you have absolutely no idea how long he will be there for, and in my opinion to try to pull out to pass him after having passed the traffic island is downright dangerous, anyghing much bigger than a car wouldnt have room to do this anyway.

This is the same council that made a road into 3 lanes, and the road markings allowed you to pull over to the other single lane of oncoming traffic on a blind left hand sweeping bend, when I pointed out the marking may be wrong, they responded and said "You may be right, we open the road, then do a safety visit", 6 months later they changed the markings.

This is also the same council which has put up nice flashing signs for 20's plenty thing for the road passing a school at set times during the day, but the 3 roads leading onto it, have no signage whatsoever, so anyone joining this stretch of road when the 20 signs flash, would have no idea it was in force.........



>> Edited by vipers on Friday 21st April 03:34

[vipers]

vonhosen said:

Offence, so wait & be patient if you can't safely pass the bus after correctly negotiating the keep left bollard

But how do I know the bus isnt 5 mins early, and is stopped at bus stop for 5 mins to get back on schedule? Its a fact you cant safely pass the bus, once you pass the traffic island, you are immediately behind the bus, oh forgot to mention, one other thing which makes it unsafe to do this, just past the bus stop, is a left hand junction, on approach you can see past the bus on the inside, then pull out before the traffic island, if you drive to the left of the island, by the time you get behind the bus, a car could have come out of the side road, and turned to his right, which means within seconds he will pass the bus, not a good situation, me thinks I must take photo and write to council on this, tks for input any way, does my comments here sway your thoughts, especially about not knowing if the bus is toing to wait 5 mins or more.

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turbobloke said:

sean5302 said: I seem to remember reading that, in America, you are not allowed to overtake a parked school bus. I think the bus has yellow flashing lights, or somesuch. The idea is that people will be alighting from the bus and may walk out into the road. From the number of central reservations at bus-stops, such as described here, I wonder if that's part of the thinking. What America does today, we always seem to end up doing, tomorrow (badly). Some post somewhere said it was also an offence to overtake a moving yellow school bus in the US of A. Maybe it was right...

You may be right, but anyone alighting from a bus and walking out IN FRONT of it is a suicide candidate. With reference to the children doing it, the answer seems blatenly simple EDUCATE THE BUGGERS, or put a conductor back on the school buses to make sure they dont head for the front of the bus to cross.

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KB_S1 said:

Do they never test these things before they lay the final markings?

Obviously not, in Aberdeen some years ago they added a lane to a road, so that you had 2 lanes going in one direction, and one in the other, now visualise this, long sweeping bend to the LEFT, as you are driving in your lane, (the one lane going in one direction), the lane markings to your right are a dotted line on your side, solid on the other side.

Obvious that the oncoming traffice in their outside lane cannot come into yours, but you can overtake a vehicle in your lane, and use the outside lane of the oncoming traffic, only problem is you are overtaking ON A BLIND BEND.

I wrote to the council pointing this out, they replied and said, we make up the road first, then do a safety check, (MARVELOUS I THOUGHT), 6 months later, they changed the road markings. Incidently I copied my letter to the Chief Constable, made sod all difference.

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BigBob said:

One alternative might be to educate children that roads are DANGEROUS and they should be paying attention to what's going on around them.

My sentiments EXACTLY, stop hounding the car drivers EDUCATE THE CHILDREN. In my younger days (circa 56-60) we had the police come to our school once a year, and put on a good display with their nice black Wolsey police cars.

They used to floor it, zip across the playground, and jump on the anchors, the object was to demonstrate the stopping distance of cars. When my daughter was younger, she was for ever walking out into the road, with the attitude "Dad, I can hear if a car is coming", I grabbed my 30m tape measure, measured out 75 yards to show her the stopping distance of a car, she was gobsmacked to say the least.

Not only the children either, an awful lot of adult pedestrians have absolutely no concept of the highway code as it applies to them.

[vipers]

7db said:

vipers said: I grabbed my 30m tape measure, measured out 75 yards to show her the stopping distance of a car, she was gobsmacked to say the least. Because a 30m tape measure could cover 75 yards?

For yards, read feet, whooooopppppppppppsssssssssssssssssssss.


The tape incidently was a 100ft job, just trying to convert to mtrs for our newer readers, metrification hurts the little grey cells sometimes.