Harrassment order question
Discussion
Bit of a non event this I suspect, but here we go anyway.
The events. Bit of a bun fight on the school bus, a case of "he said she said" etc. generally a case of kids being kids from what I have heard. There is a video (but apparently nothing can be made out on it and there's no sound) of the events. The bus driver and the headmaster all said it was a bit of a non-event and told the boys to stay away. Job done or so you would think.
However the girl who is making allegations is a bit of a trouble maker by all accounts. She has a history of false allegations (such as alleging rape when a boy dumped her) etc. She has been to the police over the incident and had a statement taken and as a result the GF's son and a five of his mates had to meet a PCSO up at the local school along with their parents to sign a harrassment order yesterday. I advised them not to sign for reasons I will explain in a bit and they didn't.
She goads the boys into reacting. Despite them being told to stay away, she still sits just in front of them and turns round and smirks etc. looking for a reaction. The bus driver has seen this happen.
As I see it they still shouldn't sign this order. No-one has taken a statement from any of the boys. The girl's statement is false, she said she was hit in the eye by an empty plastic bottle when it actually hit the back of her head. She also threw the bottle at the GF's son. One of the lads named was sat at the other end of the bus, he's never spoken to anyone on the bus in five years of travel, such is his nature. All in all it's very childish and really doesn't seem to warrant police time.
I have said the parents should refuse to sign as they are then accepting guilt and should anything else happen there is a burden placed upon them. IMO if there is sufficient evidence to warrant a prosecution then the police should investigate and pass a file to the CPS for consideration for prosecution.
The parents are livid and won't sign and view the whole thing as a huge waste of their time. So, if they refuse to sign what are the potential next steps that may be taken by the police.
The events. Bit of a bun fight on the school bus, a case of "he said she said" etc. generally a case of kids being kids from what I have heard. There is a video (but apparently nothing can be made out on it and there's no sound) of the events. The bus driver and the headmaster all said it was a bit of a non-event and told the boys to stay away. Job done or so you would think.
However the girl who is making allegations is a bit of a trouble maker by all accounts. She has a history of false allegations (such as alleging rape when a boy dumped her) etc. She has been to the police over the incident and had a statement taken and as a result the GF's son and a five of his mates had to meet a PCSO up at the local school along with their parents to sign a harrassment order yesterday. I advised them not to sign for reasons I will explain in a bit and they didn't.
She goads the boys into reacting. Despite them being told to stay away, she still sits just in front of them and turns round and smirks etc. looking for a reaction. The bus driver has seen this happen.
As I see it they still shouldn't sign this order. No-one has taken a statement from any of the boys. The girl's statement is false, she said she was hit in the eye by an empty plastic bottle when it actually hit the back of her head. She also threw the bottle at the GF's son. One of the lads named was sat at the other end of the bus, he's never spoken to anyone on the bus in five years of travel, such is his nature. All in all it's very childish and really doesn't seem to warrant police time.
I have said the parents should refuse to sign as they are then accepting guilt and should anything else happen there is a burden placed upon them. IMO if there is sufficient evidence to warrant a prosecution then the police should investigate and pass a file to the CPS for consideration for prosecution.
The parents are livid and won't sign and view the whole thing as a huge waste of their time. So, if they refuse to sign what are the potential next steps that may be taken by the police.
turbobloke said:That's my thoughts too, it should just wither up and die... I think the parents caught the PCSO on the hop as I suspect he expected a paperwok excercise and no more.
I'd agree about the 'not to sign' route, and with time I suspect this will fizzle out regardless of the minx and her stories.
Waiting to hear if PH BiB would give this incident a high priority and hours and hours of BiB time. Not sure what a PCSO could do? Not much?
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