RE: Cops Increase Fines By 94%
RE: Cops Increase Fines By 94%
Thursday 8th May 2008

Cops Increase Fines By 94%

Police in Suffolk double the amount of people caught speeding in week-long campaign



A week-long campaign in Suffolk to catch speeders resulted in a 94% increase in fines, it has been revealed.

Over 260 drivers a day were reportedly caught speeding in the clamp-down co-ordinated by Suffolk Police.

Suffolk Safety Camera Partnership and police officers caught 1,484 people and another 364 were caught speeding by fixed cameras, between 21 and 27 April – a 94% increase on last year when 954 drivers were caught.

This year’s campaign netted an average of 264 motorists every day.

Sgt Steve Knight said a ‘significant’ number of motorists have 'failed to grasp the concept' that speed kills.

‘Motorists really have no excuse,’ he said.

‘The campaign was well-publicised and there still seems to be a significant number of drivers who have failed to grasp the concept that speed kills.

‘We are aware that there are those who say police should have better things to do, but this ignores the role speed plays in fatal and serious road traffic collisions.’

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Bizzle

Original Poster:

544 posts

227 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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PH NEWS said:
‘The campaign was well-publicised and there still seems to be a significant number of drivers who have failed to grasp the concept that speed kills'
I think that the police force have failed to grasp the concept that we no longer buy into there unsubstantiated bulls**t.



Edited by Bizzle on Thursday 8th May 10:33

AmenToThat

83 posts

264 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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Sgt Steve Knight said:
‘We are aware that there are those who say police should have better things to do, but this ignores the role speed plays in fatal and serious road traffic collisions.’
Yes it plays a role in about 2-3% according to most unbiased statistics.

mmm-five

12,245 posts

310 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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It's not merely unsubstantiated, it has been proven wrong on many occasions.

Speed only increases the effects of an impact - if there is no impact then it can't kill anyone.

A Lockheed SR-71 can do over 3000 miles an hour - but it tends not to kill anyone - unless a child steps out in front of it and then all hell will break loose!

Collaudatore

1,062 posts

228 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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PH NEWS said:
‘The campaign was well-publicised and there still seems to be a significant number of drivers who have failed to grasp the concept that speed kills'
....as proven by the fact that all the drivers which were caught speeding are now dead.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

235 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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Bizzle said:
PH NEWS said:
‘The campaign was well-publicised and there still seems to be a significant number of drivers who have failed to grasp the concept that speed kills'
I think that the police force have failed to grasp the concept that we no longer buy into there unsubstantiated bulls**t.
Absoluetly how I feel yes
'Speed Kills'... rolleyes

andy_s

19,827 posts

285 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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Bit like the multiple fatal in Scotland where a kid overtakes on the wrong side on the brow of a hill and has a head-on with an innocent coming the other way on a NSL road, probably about 10mph over the limit.

"The message we want young drivers to get is 'slow down'" were the wise words of the local road safety dept. Nothing about going over the brow of a hill blind, wrong side of the road, oh no, t'was just the speed that caused the deaths.

Pointless giving advise if it's not going to alter the result.

"The message we want any driver to understand is don't be fecking stupid" would have been more appropriate.

tegwin

1,682 posts

232 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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LOL.....Looks like they had a hole in the budget to fill....But its ok now!

Vooley

146 posts

245 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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Collaudatore said:
PH NEWS said:
‘The campaign was well-publicised and there still seems to be a significant number of drivers who have failed to grasp the concept that speed kills'
....as proven by the fact that all the drivers which were caught speeding are now dead.
No but you are more likely to kill or be killed....

Edited by Vooley on Thursday 8th May 10:49

RB Will

10,738 posts

266 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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Speed kills, lots of flies and bugs that dont look before they cross the road. Seriously my car looks like it has stubble at the moment.

dougc

8,241 posts

291 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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Surely if speed kills then a 94% rise in people caught speeding will have a proportionate effect on road deaths?

If so, can we see the figures please?

Oh no, thought not.

wrs

911motorsport

7,251 posts

259 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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mmm-five said:
It's not merely unsubstantiated, it has been proven wrong on many occasions.

Speed only increases the effects of an impact - if there is no impact then it can't kill anyone.

A Lockheed SR-71 can do over 3000 miles an hour - but it tends not to kill anyone - unless a child steps out in front of it and then all hell will break loose!
Fantastic hehe Stored for subsequent re-quoting to nimbys.

Skipppy

1,136 posts

236 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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They obviously needed the cash for something....

Targarama

14,739 posts

309 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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So more people have fines and 3 points ... big deal. How many people feel safer on the roads of Suffolk now? Even the greatest anti-speed zealot would probably not think things have changed. Time for a new PR team to start working this issue - get some campaigns going about careful and considerate driving.

FishFace

3,790 posts

234 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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Skipppy said:
They obviously needed the cash for something....
They don't get the cash.

dele

1,270 posts

220 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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  • puts on flame suit*
I dont understand why people are moaning? surely if your speeding then its your own fault rolleyes

Save it for the track?

heebeegeetee

30,001 posts

274 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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They say the campaign was well publicised? Well I truck to Felixstowe on a regular basis and I knew nothing about it.

Speeding doesn't kill even a fraction of the numbers killed by hospital acquired infections, yet curiously there is no desire to achieve such improvement figures in that area, and indeed the police won't even get involved at all and so have no idea whether any crimes are being committed or not.

Its great when they're being so selective, isn't it?

Pingman

406 posts

227 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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Bizzle said:
PH NEWS said:
‘The campaign was well-publicised and there still seems to be a significant number of drivers who have failed to grasp the concept that speed kills'
I think that the police force have failed to grasp the concept that we no longer buy into there unsubstantiated bulls**t.



Edited by Bizzle on Thursday 8th May 10:33
Too true. W@nkersrage

dougc

8,241 posts

291 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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dele said:
*puts on flame suit*

I dont understand why people are moaning? surely if your speeding then its your own fault rolleyes

Save it for the track?
You have much to learn my young padawan.wink

Its not the penalising of stty driving (often manifesting itself through excessive speed for the conditions) that we gets us so vexed. Its this sort of report - Speed Kills is such a broad and misleading statement but is apparently the mainstay of road safety campaigns. Whilst these odious little gits are hiding in builders van spraying everyone that passes with their laser devices, real dangerous driving is going unchecked. But of course enforcing that would be far too expensive and wouldn't be as marketable to the drones as 'Speed Kills'

Edited by dougc on Thursday 8th May 10:59

sprinter885

11,550 posts

253 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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Ah-Bless them Boys in Blue-they're getting desperate.
Here in Lincolnshire they've mis-managed their finances so badly, 'losing' £7-8M that they got Lincolnshire County Council to add another £100 precept onto every Council Tax bill to bail 'em out !! That despite the fact that (I believe, my opinion etc...) that they are allegedly recruiting some 100 or so extra civilian staff, but shedding some uniformed jobs too !? nuts

As it happens HM Govt. is investigating whether the extra £100 is legit or not... Watch this space I guess.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

237 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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heebeegeetee said:
They say the campaign was well publicised? Well I truck to Felixstowe on a regular basis and I knew nothing about it.

Speeding doesn't kill even a fraction of the numbers killed by hospital acquired infections, yet curiously there is no desire to achieve such improvement figures in that area, and indeed the police won't even get involved at all and so have no idea whether any crimes are being committed or not.

Its great when they're being so selective, isn't it?
Get over it... That is not a police matter. Police should not be getting involved in that area unless there is a clear case of someone on purpose infecting people or killing them.

You really want doctors to fear a police prosecution or nurses ? They would rightly start backing away from doing their jobs.

You have an issue with the nhs raise it on the the nhs forum. Police have to wide a scope of involvement in matters a it is. We don't need another.

Being selective is not the issue. Dealing with matters that are within their remit is not being selective.

Or would you like to see huge fines levied against the nhs that then detract from the quality of care they provide? Perhaps you want to see ward sisters serving time in prison?

I have no interest in policing hospitals save for dealing with the idiots who make it their day to assault the staff.


As for speed kills. Well only the stupid would take that message without thinking about whats behind the slogan.

Speed has a time and a place. we all know the limits, if you choose to ignore them (which we all do tim to time) you have to accept you may very very rarely get caught.

Driver education, making tests harder, re-tests are not within the remit of the police. Our role is to enforce the law and with regards road collisions its to reduce the KSI rate not the actual number of collisions on the road.

That being said, I agree campaigns like this do not further go public relations.