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rossi-328i-sport
Original Poster
498 posts
72 months
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So 3 months have passed and yet again someone has got into my car in the same spot as it was last time they got into it.
It has a Clifford alarm,locking,Immobilizer unit.
The first time i thought maybe i didn't activate it but this time round i know the alarm and locking was activated.
I came out this morning to find my glove box wide open, bits and pieces scattered throughout the car, Ipod in glove box gone that was connected to head unit and stupidly i left my wallet (although tucked well out of sight) in the car in the drivers door pocket all of witch are now gone.
Even went as far as to steal the whole ashtray insert that was full of copper coins !! SCUM BAGS! im fuming to say the least but don`t know how they are getting into the car.
Is it worth me reporting it this time around as my experience in the past is that not much will happen or can be done
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Glassman
17,403 posts
85 months
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rossi-328i-sport said: don`t know how they are getting into the car. Bit more detail please; did they unlock the door? Window wound down? I'm assuming it wasn't smashed. But what about the alarm... how/why wasn't that triggered?
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14-7
5,743 posts
61 months
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If its a coupe does it have the frameless windows? Very easy to pull the glass back slightly.
I presume they got stuff last time as well did they?
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TonyRPH
4,852 posts
38 months
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Do you physically check that the door is locked every time you walk away form the car, or are you one of those people who just "blip" the keyfob as you're walking away, taking for granted that it's locked?
You could have keyfob jammers operating in your area - in which case although you thought the car was locked - it wasn't (if you didn't check of course).
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rossi-328i-sport
Original Poster
498 posts
72 months
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Totally understand all the questions as i would be asking myself .
The doors do lock every time, i always listen as you hear the actuators work.
I`m definitely not going mad, i know for sure this time i locked the car as i always do, i gave it the benefit of the doubt before.
It is a coupe although does`nt look like the window was pulled about at all.
Really does seem like they have a way of deactivating the alarm.
As i say this happened around 3 months ago and seems to me it must be the same people/person coming back.
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BOF
872 posts
93 months
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Happened to me and next door neighbour last year - both cars on our common drive.
We did not think we had left the cars unlocked (I never do!)...glove box open and papers etc on floor - pair of Ray Bans in case not taken - neighbour lost nothing either.
Reported to Police who visited, but no explanation ever found - my car ten years old - next doors is a shed...not obvious targets for theft...
BOF
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daz3210
5,000 posts
110 months
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I would have said, could they have 'listened' to the fob code, but don't modern cars change the code on each activation?
OP, was car locked or unlocked when you returned to it?
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rossi-328i-sport
Original Poster
498 posts
72 months
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car was unlocked when i returned but i still had to press the fob to disarm the alarm, normally the car unlocks at this point but was unlocked already.
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Fatboy
7,292 posts
142 months
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How old is the clifford alarm? Might be worth giving them a call/email asking for some help with how this could be happening - as long as it was installed by an approved installer I'd have thought they'd be interested...
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daz3210
5,000 posts
110 months
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Is it possible the alarm actually triggered then, and no one batted an eyelid at the time?
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rossi-328i-sport
Original Poster
498 posts
72 months
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Maybe the case daz or by time anyone woke up to look outside they was gone then it would of just looked like another car alarm going off as usual, know ones bothered by car alarms now days unfortunately. People are more likely to be put out over one going off. Its around 4 years old. fitted by a friend who is Clifford approved. Im going there Saturday so he can check it out but after playing around a bit with it now it seems to be working perfectly! I have even tried to trick it into not locking, everything that may have gone wrong but nothing.All seems fine and thats whats getting me 
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Glassman
17,403 posts
85 months
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rossi-328i-sport said: fitted by a friend A goooood friend?
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Carrot
5,921 posts
72 months
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daz3210 said: Is it possible the alarm actually triggered then, and no one batted an eyelid at the time? This. So many alarms go off (especially in built up areas), that people effectively ignore them. I know when I was doing my psychology studies some time ago, there was a case study that (from memory) tested people to see how they reacted to certain types of alarm. Standard house and car alarms, something like 60% of the subjects didn't even notice it. Does your alarm give a warning that it has been triggered? My bike alarm used to give a double chip if it was triggered while I was away from it.
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rossi-328i-sport
Original Poster
498 posts
72 months
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Carrot said: daz3210 said: Is it possible the alarm actually triggered then, and no one batted an eyelid at the time? This. So many alarms go off (especially in built up areas), that people effectively ignore them. I know when I was doing my psychology studies some time ago, there was a case study that (from memory) tested people to see how they reacted to certain types of alarm. Standard house and car alarms, something like 60% of the subjects didn't even notice it. Does your alarm give a warning that it has been triggered? My bike alarm used to give a double chip if it was triggered while I was away from it. Yes it does, it gave the extra bleeps to let me know it had gone off.I thought i had put this in my first post but my mistake i didn't. Thats the part that is confusing me. So its as if the doors were unlocked but alarm still triggered. As for know one being bothered by an alarm i find thats the case also, Mine goes through a cycle of different sounds, im sure you all know it and very loud but know one bats an eye lid.
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daz3210
5,000 posts
110 months
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That reminds me of an instance about 15 years or so ago.
Living at home with parents and brother, they were away for the weekend. I'd been out for the day Saturday, and came home to find my brothers car door open and alarm blurting away. I didn't know if owt was missing, but expensive stereo etc still there, so I assumed nothing taken. Door was ajar by about 3 inches or so.
I thought nothing of it, and went to make tea.
Later in the evening, I had a knock on the door, the local Environmental Health Officer. She proceeded to give me chapter and verse on noise pollution legislation, and how it was an offence to cause annoyance and neighbours had complained etc etc etc. Then asked my intentions. She was taken aback when I told her nothing, but did ask why.
I politely told her that the car had been entered by unauthorised persons, and the alarm was performing to its design standard.
She then asked what my considered intention was regarding future arrangements to ensure no further nuisance. I rather politely suggested that both her and whoever had complained should seek education as to how to close a car door. That was the sum total of what was needed to prevent further activations of the alarm.
The moral of the story though is that people are more interested in having a quiet life rather than investigating the cause of the problem.
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StottyZr
4,188 posts
33 months
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daz3210 said: That reminds me of an instance about 15 years or so ago.
Living at home with parents and brother, they were away for the weekend. I'd been out for the day Saturday, and came home to find my brothers car door open and alarm blurting away. I didn't know if owt was missing, but expensive stereo etc still there, so I assumed nothing taken. Door was ajar by about 3 inches or so.
I thought nothing of it, and went to make tea.
Later in the evening, I had a knock on the door, the local Environmental Health Officer. She proceeded to give me chapter and verse on noise pollution legislation, and how it was an offence to cause annoyance and neighbours had complained etc etc etc. Then asked my intentions. She was taken aback when I told her nothing, but did ask why.
I politely told her that the car had been entered by unauthorised persons, and the alarm was performing to its design standard.
She then asked what my considered intention was regarding future arrangements to ensure no further nuisance. I rather politely suggested that both her and whoever had complained should seek education as to how to close a car door. That was the sum total of what was needed to prevent further activations of the alarm.
The moral of the story though is that people are more interested in having a quiet life rather than investigating the cause of the problem. Im confused. Didn't you shut the car door? And you wern't concerned that it had seemingly been broken into?
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Chris993C4
557 posts
81 months
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rossi-328i-sport said: The doors do lock every time, i always listen as you hear the actuators work. Does it have deadlocking? If so, are the deadlocks thrown immediately, or after a short (but long enough for you to walk away) delay? Some models of Volvo (for example) have a 30s second delay between locking and deadlocking - presumably as a safety measure. I've come across an example where it would lock on the blipper, wait the 30s, and then either deadlock (as intended) or unlock completely (presumably an intermittent fault with the deadlocks opting to fail-safe, rather then fail-secure)...
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rossi-328i-sport
Original Poster
498 posts
72 months
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daz3210
5,000 posts
110 months
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StottyZr said: Im confused. Didn't you shut the car door? And you wern't concerned that it had seemingly been broken into? There was no evidence it had been actually broken into. It was back in the day when setting the alarm and locking were two different things. There was no sign anyone had been in the car, only that the door had been opened, and left open. The basic conclusion I reached was that bro had forgot to lock and local kids had opened the door and left it open (I went out at mid morning and returned round about teatime I think), this was not at the expected time for 'visitors' on a busy residential street. There was nothing I could do until family returned anyway, except secure the car. If it were to have been a break in, my immediate thought was that the few hundred pound stereo would have gone, there was not much else in there.
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TonyRPH
4,852 posts
38 months
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rossi-328i-sport said: Yes it does, it gave the extra bleeps to let me know it had gone off.I thought i had put this in my first post but my mistake i didn't.
Thats the part that is confusing me.
So its as if the doors were unlocked but alarm still triggered.
As for know one being bothered by an alarm i find thats the case also, Mine goes through a cycle of different sounds, im sure you all know it and very loud but know one bats an eye lid. Hsve you checked that it still sounds when triggered? The wires to the siren may have been cut (assuming a seperate siren) or perhaps it's been disabled somehow?
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