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RRH

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304 posts

130 months

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Chaps, I know this has been covered hundreds of times... but I feel the need to rant a little.

Sold my car a couple of months ago. I'm not a trader, it was a private sale- it was actually my wifes car (V5 in her name etc).

She's been seriously ill, and as a result, we no longer need two cars.

Advertised it for ages at what appeared to be market value, and ended up selling it to a chap that had seen it, previously on eBay. IIRC similar cars with dealers were around 10k, I had it advertised at £8995, reduced it, reduced it, reduced it. I think when he actually looked at it, it was down to £6795.

Anyway, he comes down, has a good look round it, can't prove insurance so I take him for a drive. He's quite happy. Comes back a couple of hours later, bids me in the goolies, and leaves a deposit, balance to be paid the following week.

I meet up with him, he pays me by bank transfer, which doesn't show up. He drives me to the bank and I'm satisfied its in the system, so let him take the car. Money showed up the next day. at this point he's driven home via motorway etc, the relevance will be apparent in a minute.

I hear nothing more, other than a couple of 'really pleased with the car' type calls / texts.

A week later, he takes it to an Audi 'specialist'..... who finds £2500 of work that 'needs to be done'.

The chap then plagues me with calls, texts and registered letters demanding money. Doesn't ever mention returning the car.

I honestly knew nothing about any of these problems (low brake pads, warped disks, spare tyre down to 3mm 'so needs to be replaced as its not safe'!) FFS, it was only MOT'd a month earlier! He's even phoned the garage that serviced it demanding information!

Anyway, this morning I've received a summons. I described the car as excellent condition, which it was. I made no reference to any of the parts he claims are faulty, wasn't aware of them, he had every opportunity to inspect or arrange an inspection.

The chap evidently doesn't understand caveat emptor. I in no way misdescribed it, and had no knowledge of the bits he says are faulty. he's been driving it quite happily for a week!

Rant over- I shall respond to the summons in a more succinct manner!

Chrisw666

22,654 posts

82 months

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RRH said:
Rant over- I shall respond to the summons in a more succinct manner!
I would.

It always seems to be the kind of person who stays in touch after they buy a car that then find masses of faults with it post purchase.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

109 months

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Private sale = sold as seen.

Tell him to do one.

(Happy to be corrected)

NiceCupOfTea

22,830 posts

134 months

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What a pratt! Wants a bargain but wants main dealer service! It sounds as if he is on a hiding to nothing - spare tyre on 3mm laugh What a tool!

Unless you lied in the ad or misrepresented you are fine IMHO. I would be nervous about getting a summons though - if you consult a lawyer/take time off work would he have to pay your expenses? Might be rather amusing to do so! Make sure you write down now a bullet list of everything that happened, with copies of texts/emails/original ad.

pilchardthecat

7,118 posts

62 months

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CommanderJameson said:
Private sale = sold as seen.

Tell him to do one.

(Happy to be corrected)
Providing he didn't mislead the buyer in some way
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Terminator X

4,422 posts

87 months

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Tell him to fk right off, he's simply wasting his own money.

TX.

Fastra

3,915 posts

92 months

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It's symbolic of our 'Watchdog' nation.
Somethings wrong with it so therefore must be someone else's fault.

Can't believe the gaul of him really.


Chrisw666

22,654 posts

82 months

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shout Soovy!

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

109 months

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Fastra said:
Can't believe the gaul of him really.


Sorry, couldn't resist.

As you were, etc.

trickywoo

4,002 posts

113 months

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What a PITA.

You've done nothing wrong.

It'll be a small claims court thing. He will have to come to your local one.

Have your paperwork in order and you'll be fine. I suspect he won't even turn up.

RRH

Original Poster:

304 posts

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My response...

Mr XXXXXX inspected the car drove the car and was satisfied with the vehicle as described and only after he had satisfied himself did he pay me for the vehicle.

Mr XXXXXX used the vehicle daily for seven days, with no mention of any problems until they were highlighted to him by an Audi 'specialist'.

Mr XXXXX could have had an inspection prior to purchase however he was happy to verify the cars condition himself.

I feel this claim is a frivolous attempt to obtain money.

POORCARDEALER

6,972 posts

124 months

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Two words, second one is off.

Some punters these days really are wkers

sjj84

1,373 posts

102 months

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What a bell end, can't see him getting anywhere, things like brake pads are a consumable item that are expected to be replaced during the lifetime of a car, unless you specifically put in the add 'just had new brake pads' can't see it being a problem for you. As for the spare tyre only having 3mm of thread and not being safe, the legal limit is 1.6mm, and if he didn't bother to check the tyre when he looked at the car, again it's not your problem.

What other faults has he dreamt up? Pads, discs and a tyre certainly aren't going to amount to £2500.

Gruber

4,985 posts

97 months

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So what are his grounds for claim? Why does he say he is entitled to money from you? What legal provision / principle is he relying on to support his claim?


Fastra

3,915 posts

92 months

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CommanderJameson said:


Sorry, couldn't resist.

As you were, etc.
biggrin dur....

That's exactly how I imagine him now, a bit of an 'Asterix'!



CampDavid

8,606 posts

81 months

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Take legal advise and bill him for it if he's actually sent the summons.

I'd actually wait until someone on here with legal knowledge posts but as far as I'm aware you can do him in the arse for a spurious claim. I would.

RRH

Original Poster:

304 posts

130 months

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Front parking sensor failed (although it had always been fine, and worked when HE drove ME to the bank!).
Broken flap on the inlet manifold, apparently.
He also treated himself to a new set of tyres, brake disks and pads.

In essence, he wanted the car to the standard of his outgoing car (61 plate X5 that he had to sell back to dealer).

Bearing in mind the car we sold him was 9 years old and had covered 115,000 miles....

Thanks for the replies, chaps, I know he doesn't have a leg to stand on (not even sure he could rely on the description on the ebay advert as the deal was done after the auction had ended, unsold, ie not through ebay).

Its just a pain in the arse. you lot are making me smile though smile

GusB

164 posts

42 months

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CommanderJameson said:
Private sale = sold as seen.

Tell him to do one.

(Happy to be corrected)
I agree. Also, you may want to use the legal term; numbnuts when writing back.

GusB

Bill

31,456 posts

138 months

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IANAL But I'm guessing it's small claims court? In which case he's filled in the form himself and is chancing it. Either go to court make your case and (probably) win which will cost you a day off less expenses you can claim or go to a solicitor and get them to write to him telling him to F off and explaining quite how badly he will lose.

RRH

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304 posts

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Yep, small claims. I'll handle it myself.
We've fought cancer twice, fighting this fool doesn't concern me in the least smile
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