Dealer misrepresentation - advice please
Dealer misrepresentation - advice please
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711

Original Poster:

806 posts

251 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Hi,

I recently bought a 12 month old used car from a main dealer.

During the sale process I asked if it had previously been a hire car.

The salesman stated that it had been owned by the manufacturer and used for a while at the manufacturers base office before being retailed out through the dealer.

The V5 has arrived today and shows the name of a well know hire company.

I would not have bought the car had I known it was a hire car, which is why I asked the salesman specifically "has this been a hire car?"

I'm worried that if I contact the dealer they'll just deny the verbal conversation where I asked if it was a hire car.

How do I best deal with this situation? Thanks!

tbc

3,017 posts

201 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Unless you have it in writing then best you can hope for is a goodwill gesture

free servicing or something along those lines

i think this happened to someone on here before and they got a few years valeting out of it

chockymonster

658 posts

236 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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My wife used to work for a AVIS, she got a new company car every six months.
Every car was registered to AVIS and then sold on, just because it has the company name on it does not mean it was a hire car.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

183 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Never trust a car salesman.

If it meant that much to you, you should have asked to see the V5 before purchasing. Now it is just your word against theirs .....

KevinOctiScout

13,737 posts

306 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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How many miles on the car? If less than average why worry? If more than average why did you not do more investigative work before purchase?

Snowboy

8,028 posts

177 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Perhaps the dealer head office registered their fleet cars through Avis for insurance/tax reasons.

BE57 TOY

2,628 posts

173 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Why did you not ask to see the V5?

750turbo

6,164 posts

250 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Snowboy said:
Perhaps the dealer head office registered their fleet cars through Avis for insurance/tax reasons.
Rubbish

750turbo

6,164 posts

250 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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BE57 TOY said:
Why did you not ask to see the V5?
Who does this? It may not even have been available at the time.

I think the OP has a good case, I would be going mental!

Hopefully someone witha modecum(sp) of the proper knowledge will be along shortly.

Jasandjules

72,156 posts

255 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Ok,

First things first, what do you want to happen?


Snowboy

8,028 posts

177 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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It's possible you could reject the car.
Get your money back, move on.

I guess it depends how 'recent' the purchased was.

Pontoneer

3,643 posts

212 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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750turbo said:
Who does this? It may not even have been available at the time.
Well , I do for one - that way I can see the name of the last owner and I usually try to phone them up and have a chat about the car ( as long as they are in the phone book ; I only need to remember the surname and street name which is not too difficult ) . If not in the phone book I suppose I could pop round if local , but I've never done that .

RSoovy4

35,829 posts

297 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Jasandjules said:
Ok,

First things first, what do you want to happen?
This.

If it was me (and assuming I'd bought a car without seeing the V5......) I'd ring the dealer principal and tell him you're not happy, and that you were lied to, and that you would like the car replaced with an identical one which has not been bullyrammed by a different punter every day.

Face for Radio

1,777 posts

193 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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When working at the airports I watched the valeting guys going between the prep areas and the customer collection points. Those things were treated like absolute crap.

They were probably treated more kindly by the customers.

I certainly wouldn't want one as a second hand buy. I know a lot of the sub 10,000mile approved used come from rental places.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

243 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Why do people continue to make multi-thousand pound transactions, in an industry known for bending the truth, without putting the most important parts of the contract in writing?

711

Original Poster:

806 posts

251 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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RSoovy4 said:
Jasandjules said:
Ok,

First things first, what do you want to happen?
This.

If it was me (and assuming I'd bought a car without seeing the V5......) I'd ring the dealer principal and tell him you're not happy, and that you were lied to, and that you would like the car replaced with an identical one which has not been bullyrammed by a different punter every day.
Hi, what is pretty much as Soovy has described - either the car to be replaced with an equivalent non-hire car or for me to hand the car back for a refund.

Jasandjules

72,156 posts

255 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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10 Pence Short said:
Why do people continue to make multi-thousand pound transactions, in an industry known for bending the truth, without putting the most important parts of the contract in writing?
Well, I can say that I have lent friends money without any contract, without anything written down, without any repayment plan, just a "pay me back when you can". Now I should know better, I DO know better, but you know what, there is no way I would ever put such a thing in writing.......

And I've purchased expensive cars without a contract in writing too.........

No matter what the courts say, average people do not do such things.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

243 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Oh, and extra man-points to Soovy for "bullyrammed".

RSoovy4

35,829 posts

297 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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10 Pence Short said:
Oh, and extra man-points to Soovy for "bullyrammed".
I think you.

Fizpop

332 posts

195 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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As above, depends what you want from the situation.
FWIW, I fell into the exact same trap with a 12 month old 1.4TDCI Fiesta, ex Avis as I later found out. The truth is how many private punters buy a brand new car, run it for 12 months and 8k and then trade it in? Fact is many of these cars have 'corporate' users either hire or fleet.
Is 100 drivers of varying driving style better or worse then a company car user who ragged it for every mile on the clock?

In my instance, I ran the car for 3 years and it's dirty past wink didn't affect it in any way other than I hoped that the private buyer didn't ask to see the V5! At that point it really is irrelivant, but that stigma remains.

In my instance, I didn't ask the salesman, had I and subsequently been lied too I would be speaking to the dealer princial and getting satisfaction in whatever form you expect.