Snooper S6 - Neo (with Radar & Laser detection)
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If i were you i would be looking at GPS devices they dont pick up mobile traps (laser),but the laser detection on the s6 only tells you you have been targeted by which time its probably too late.The s6 like all other non GPS devices do not see all Gatso's as alot of them now activate using strips in the road,they do not see specs or trevelo's,Radar detectors are going to be the easiest item to outlaw GPS devices will be alot more difficult.
GPS devices are the best i use a blue i but others include
Road angel
Geodesoy
cylops
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GPS devices are the best i use a blue i but others include
Road angel
Geodesoy
cylops
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Snooper S6 is GPS activated. I had initially thought of buying a Blue i, but they don't pick up mobile traps.
The S6 is the best of both worlds with GPS and laser/radar detectors. I know that if it picks up a laser, then its too late, or at least it would be if I wasn't also buying their laser blinder!!!! (Probably illegal, but as far as I am concerned if they want to play dirty with their Scameras and the mobile tax collection offices, then so can I).
If I get caught speeding by a "marked" police car, then its upseting, but a fair cop. Current tactics are just Blairs way of trying to balance his book through stealth taxation.
I am going to use every technology available to prevent this, just like they are using every technology to try and catch me!!!!
The S6 is the best of both worlds with GPS and laser/radar detectors. I know that if it picks up a laser, then its too late, or at least it would be if I wasn't also buying their laser blinder!!!! (Probably illegal, but as far as I am concerned if they want to play dirty with their Scameras and the mobile tax collection offices, then so can I).
If I get caught speeding by a "marked" police car, then its upseting, but a fair cop. Current tactics are just Blairs way of trying to balance his book through stealth taxation.
I am going to use every technology available to prevent this, just like they are using every technology to try and catch me!!!!
Don't get me wrong, I do not intend to use excessive speed for the sake of it, but I don't want to get caught doing 80-85 on a motorway, or 70 in a NSL. I want to be able to concentrate on my driving/what other numpteys are doing, not on whether i'm doing 5 mph over the speed limit.
Take your point about the profile though, not one of my clever moments!!!!! Sorted now though - albeit possibly to late.
Take your point about the profile though, not one of my clever moments!!!!! Sorted now though - albeit possibly to late.
I've got one of these on loan currently for review. Haven't had a chance to install it yet.
Will be here soon: www.pistonheads.com/reviews
Will be here soon: www.pistonheads.com/reviews
Ok, having just spoken with Snooper I feel that I can give a more complete picture.
I haven't installed the system in my car yet but over the weekend I was in the g/f's VR6 coming down the M1 and did a 'rough' install (ie. wires hanging everywhere) to see how good it was.
Unfortunately, it was pants. The radar detector beeped all the way down the motorway showing a reading of 1 or 2 (ie. low signal) for detection of K band. A constant beep for 160 miles is very annoying.
So, what was the GPS unit like? Coming into East London from the North Circular it missed 2 GPS cameras that had been in place for years. I then drove into central London (along Lower Thames Street to those who know the area) where there are more cameras that have been there for years. Again, it failed to pick these up. However, when it did start to beep telling me about the location of a GATSO I went in search of it and it did pick all of them up on the A12 - when it worked it was very good giving a loud warning in plenty of time - it just appears that the database is extremely poor.
Having just spoken to Snooper they say that the false alarm could well be caused by having the GPS aerial too close to the radar detector and that this will be mentioned in the updated documentation. I did have these relatively close so I said that I'll give this a go tonight. With respect to the database, they said that they are imnproving this all the time and it is still a very new product.
As I said, I'll give it another go tonight as I really want this to work.
Nick
I haven't installed the system in my car yet but over the weekend I was in the g/f's VR6 coming down the M1 and did a 'rough' install (ie. wires hanging everywhere) to see how good it was.
Unfortunately, it was pants. The radar detector beeped all the way down the motorway showing a reading of 1 or 2 (ie. low signal) for detection of K band. A constant beep for 160 miles is very annoying.
So, what was the GPS unit like? Coming into East London from the North Circular it missed 2 GPS cameras that had been in place for years. I then drove into central London (along Lower Thames Street to those who know the area) where there are more cameras that have been there for years. Again, it failed to pick these up. However, when it did start to beep telling me about the location of a GATSO I went in search of it and it did pick all of them up on the A12 - when it worked it was very good giving a loud warning in plenty of time - it just appears that the database is extremely poor.
Having just spoken to Snooper they say that the false alarm could well be caused by having the GPS aerial too close to the radar detector and that this will be mentioned in the updated documentation. I did have these relatively close so I said that I'll give this a go tonight. With respect to the database, they said that they are imnproving this all the time and it is still a very new product.
As I said, I'll give it another go tonight as I really want this to work.
Nick
NickD, thanks for posting your findings - very interesting. I had initially been tempted by a Road Angel but have been holding out for the device that does everything in one box - the S6 Neo seemed like it might be it. Your experiences so far have rung a few alarm bells though and I'm finding myself leaning back towards the Road Angel. I'd be grateful if you could keep us posted as your investigations continue!
One question you might be able to answer - is it possible to move the S6 Neo between multiple vehicles easily? That seems to be one strength of the Road Angel.
Cheers,
Chris
One question you might be able to answer - is it possible to move the S6 Neo between multiple vehicles easily? That seems to be one strength of the Road Angel.
Cheers,
Chris
Chris,
How easy it is to move between vehicles will depend on how well you want to install it, ie. hide the wires. The unit consists of 3 devices - the head unit, the radar detector and the GPS aerial. I guess it would be easy to move these between vehicles if you are using the cigarette lighter as a power source (rather than hard wiring it) and the wires are not buried in the vehicle somewhere. It is designed so that everything is held in place with either velcro fasteners or rubber suckers on the windscreen so in principle it should be relatively easy to switch between vehicles. You have to be able to take the head unit out easily in order to provide regular downloads via a telephone socket.
It seems such a neat all in one solution but I'm far from convinced at the moment - I'll have another go as suggested and let you know.
Nick
>> Edited by NickD on Monday 6th January 18:28
How easy it is to move between vehicles will depend on how well you want to install it, ie. hide the wires. The unit consists of 3 devices - the head unit, the radar detector and the GPS aerial. I guess it would be easy to move these between vehicles if you are using the cigarette lighter as a power source (rather than hard wiring it) and the wires are not buried in the vehicle somewhere. It is designed so that everything is held in place with either velcro fasteners or rubber suckers on the windscreen so in principle it should be relatively easy to switch between vehicles. You have to be able to take the head unit out easily in order to provide regular downloads via a telephone socket.
It seems such a neat all in one solution but I'm far from convinced at the moment - I'll have another go as suggested and let you know.
Nick
>> Edited by NickD on Monday 6th January 18:28
Tried it again last night, in both the Golf and the Tuscan (in case of some strange interference when connected up to one).
Unfortunately, the radar detector was no better giving a constant false alarm of 1 or 2 on the K band (5 is the maximum). I moved the aerial onto the rear parcel shelf as suggested but this did not improve things. In fact, on some occasions the GPS reception was very poor and it could not pick up from the minimum of 3 satellites that it requires to work.
Interestingly, the guy at Snooper said that someone else with a TVR had rung up with the same problem (although I tried it in the Golf as well). They were very helpful and there was no dispute with the immediate repayment of the registration fee (£99 for 2.5 years).
Am disappointed but this will be sent back today. However, I wouldn't be at all surprised that when Ted does his test it fares a hell of a lot better than mine did (indicating a faulty unit) but until told otherwise I will not be seeking for a replacement.
Nick
Unfortunately, the radar detector was no better giving a constant false alarm of 1 or 2 on the K band (5 is the maximum). I moved the aerial onto the rear parcel shelf as suggested but this did not improve things. In fact, on some occasions the GPS reception was very poor and it could not pick up from the minimum of 3 satellites that it requires to work.
Interestingly, the guy at Snooper said that someone else with a TVR had rung up with the same problem (although I tried it in the Golf as well). They were very helpful and there was no dispute with the immediate repayment of the registration fee (£99 for 2.5 years).
Am disappointed but this will be sent back today. However, I wouldn't be at all surprised that when Ted does his test it fares a hell of a lot better than mine did (indicating a faulty unit) but until told otherwise I will not be seeking for a replacement.
Nick
Nick,
Thanks for the updates. Shame the unit didn't live up to expecations. Don't think I'll be going for one based on your experiences. Now the question in my mind is whether to go for the GPS only Road Angel I had been considering or hold out for the next all-in-one combined unit to come out?
Just hope I don't get done for speeding in the meantime!
Chris
Thanks for the updates. Shame the unit didn't live up to expecations. Don't think I'll be going for one based on your experiences. Now the question in my mind is whether to go for the GPS only Road Angel I had been considering or hold out for the next all-in-one combined unit to come out?
Just hope I don't get done for speeding in the meantime!
Chris
Pies, problem with most reviews are that people miss really important stuff. Things I hate about my Blue i that I didn't see in the review :
- Pain to (take out of/put in) the car as you need to de/attach two wires. The sockets+wires don't look too robust to put up with this either. Correct solution would be to have some kind of unified plug built into the mounting clamp.
- Its not loud enough in a sports car (serious problem).
- The display is bloody hard to read unless you can mount it directly in front of you (not possible in my car).
- It doesn't alert you when it loses sat lock. I think this problem is self explanatory.
Ted, when you review the S6 can you see if it resolves any of these issues?
DanH,
I'm sure Ted will do a more comprehensive review but if it will help anyone looking at these now:
I can see this being a bit annoying . There are 3 wires going into it (2 in one side one in another which means that it has to be mounted somewhere with plenty of room either side - it would have been better if all the wires went into the same side)and the aerial lead in particular is quite fiddly to get in and out. The other 2 leads have standard DC type plugs.
This isn't a problem - the volume was sufficient in the Tuscan with the radio on.
Again, this wasn't really a problem except in really bright low level sunshine where it helped to have it as close as possible. However, the display can be lit permanently or just when there is a warning, which helps.
This is certainly true for the Snooper GPS system as I would imagine for all GPS systems however the radar detector is not dependent upon the GPS system working. However, one annoying thing that happened was that the GPS system came into range (I had it set at 500m) of a Gatso and the unit started beeping. However, it then lost sat lock without warning me and the unit then considers that you are stationary so the unit kept bleeping even though I had moved away from the Gatso.
Nick
I'm sure Ted will do a more comprehensive review but if it will help anyone looking at these now:
DanH said:
- Pain to (take out of/put in) the car as you need to de/attach two wires. The sockets+wires don't look too robust to put up with this either. Correct solution would be to have some kind of unified plug built into the mounting clamp.
I can see this being a bit annoying . There are 3 wires going into it (2 in one side one in another which means that it has to be mounted somewhere with plenty of room either side - it would have been better if all the wires went into the same side)and the aerial lead in particular is quite fiddly to get in and out. The other 2 leads have standard DC type plugs.
DanH said:
- Its not loud enough in a sports car (serious problem).
This isn't a problem - the volume was sufficient in the Tuscan with the radio on.
DanH said:
- The display is bloody hard to read unless you can mount it directly in front of you (not possible in my car).
Again, this wasn't really a problem except in really bright low level sunshine where it helped to have it as close as possible. However, the display can be lit permanently or just when there is a warning, which helps.
DanH said:
- It doesn't alert you when it loses sat lock. I think this problem is self explanatory.
This is certainly true for the Snooper GPS system as I would imagine for all GPS systems however the radar detector is not dependent upon the GPS system working. However, one annoying thing that happened was that the GPS system came into range (I had it set at 500m) of a Gatso and the unit started beeping. However, it then lost sat lock without warning me and the unit then considers that you are stationary so the unit kept bleeping even though I had moved away from the Gatso.
Nick
DanH said:
Pies, problem with most reviews are that people miss really important stuff. Things I hate about my Blue i that I didn't see in the review :
- Pain to (take out of/put in) the car as you need to de/attach two wires. The sockets+wires don't look too robust to put up with this either. Correct solution would be to have some kind of unified plug built into the mounting clamp.
- Its not loud enough in a sports car (serious problem).
- The display is bloody hard to read unless you can mount it directly in front of you (not possible in my car).
- It doesn't alert you when it loses sat lock. I think this problem is self explanatory.
Ted, when you review the S6 can you see if it resolves any of these issues?
Dan i am not advocating or trying to flog the blue i to anybody just trying to help people make more informed decisions.I did not mention it previously dut i also own a S5 which is what the S6 bases its radar detetion on i dont use it mush as it fasle alarms too much.
As for your points the fitting and removal is very easy the two cables are 1 power and 2 ariel, both just plug in.The mounting is easy as there is a seperate block which fixes by strong velcro.The main unit just clips on that,how much easier do you want
The volume is perfectly ok in my car,but obviously if you have a v8 or similar well i think everything will struggle with that. Ive had no problems with the display at all but again its subjective.
The main point of it not warning you if "no sat lock" annoys me to but there might be a software fix coming soon to solve this.
One point you didn't mention is Origin have a far larger database of cameras than anybody else (probabaly on a par with Geodesoy)
If i had the money i would buy the road piolot from geodesoy and a jammer LRC-100
You pays your money you takes your choice,but the more info you get before you pay the less chance of buying the wrong thing
>> Edited by pies on Wednesday 8th January 13:59
NickD,
Just read the www.radar-detectors-uk.com summary of the snooper. They say that you can turn off some of the bands (i.e. X which isn't used in this country). Did you do this?
Sorry to drag this up again, but I was just about to buy four units until I read your post
.
Rich
Just read the www.radar-detectors-uk.com summary of the snooper. They say that you can turn off some of the bands (i.e. X which isn't used in this country). Did you do this?
Sorry to drag this up again, but I was just about to buy four units until I read your post
. Rich
Oops forgot I posted on this originally.
Pies, they seem to have fixed the sat lock notification on the Blue i. It now puts a red LED on, and I think it caused it to bleep (although it may have been something else causing it to bleep). I only saw this once the other day though, so can't confirm it 100%.
Volume is still wholey inadequate for a sports car. I've got an Elise with a sports exhaust (so only a 4pot not a V8!), and with the radio on too, the Blue i is drowned.
I was considering one of these but after a couple of comments saved my money and got a Euro 550. I think you really need to consider the type of driving you do as to what device you buy. Most of my driving is on A/B roads in the West of Scotland (no I've not seen McCrae in his Murcielago). So Gatso's ain't a big problem for me so I chose a detector that would do a reasonable job of picking up Gatso's in town but could also pick up hand-held/mobile traps.
I'm still wavering on the laser jammer. Knowing my luck I'd be the legal test case for this device and the government would then bring in a mandatory 10 year stretch.
I'm still wavering on the laser jammer. Knowing my luck I'd be the legal test case for this device and the government would then bring in a mandatory 10 year stretch.
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