Nissan Navara engine
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jdwcd

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2,518 posts

222 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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I have an 06 navara which has an engine issue. done 44k miles, just before the warranty ran out we took it in for a few bits, I had said to them the engine sounded odd. Just had the engine looked at down a friends garage and they have said its knackered, I have heard some dodgy things about these engines.. Anyone know anything.

Lefty Two Drams

19,090 posts

222 months

Pushrod-Power

233 posts

205 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Blown out of proportion in my opinion rolleyes i know of 2 high mileage Navaras with no problems whatsoever redface i might add that both are seviced at 6/7k without fail and treated properly as in not cained from cold etc,still treat any engine like st and what can you expect laugh i bet most engines that have failed are run by tradesman(worst culprits)instead of treating the vehicle like a valuable work tool they just hammer it then complain when it breaks shoot don't even lift the bonnet between services mad

jdwcd

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2,518 posts

222 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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Pushrod-Power said:
Blown out of proportion in my opinion rolleyes i know of 2 high mileage Navaras with no problems whatsoever redface i might add that both are seviced at 6/7k without fail and treated properly as in not cained from cold etc,still treat any engine like st and what can you expect laugh i bet most engines that have failed are run by tradesman(worst culprits)instead of treating the vehicle like a valuable work tool they just hammer it then complain when it breaks shoot don't even lift the bonnet between services mad
this one belongs to my wife, serviced properly, had lots of warranty work, never cained probably towed 3 or 4 times.

you know of two high mileage navaras. hhhmmm thats quite a lot more than one. How many have been built.

Pushrod-Power

233 posts

205 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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If a motor is bad its bad be it 2 or 20 confused why would i want to know how many are made i dislike this kind of vehicle anyway :silly i bet plenty of these failures are down to dealers not carrying out neccesary oil & filter changes and oh yes they do rolleyes why? because they can frown then blame the fact that its Diesel when you pull them up about the colour of the oil after only 50 miles later frown this is more wide spead than you would believe eek and hard to prove,and obviously very detrimental to the engines life.
Have you any idea how muck research and development the Japanese put into an engine,no? irked lets just say its not little.

Edited by Pushrod-Power on Saturday 16th January 20:19

agent006

12,058 posts

284 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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[quote=jdwcdJust had the engine looked at down a friends garage and they have said its knackered
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What, every single part? Or is there actually a proper dianosis?

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

227 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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Seen a few engine failures its normally big ends (which knacker the crank)around 40-50k mark Nissan are aware of the problem & have changed a few under goodwill outside of warranty.

jdwcd

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222 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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neiljohnson said:
Seen a few engine failures its normally big ends (which knacker the crank)around 40-50k mark Nissan are aware of the problem & have changed a few under goodwill outside of warranty.
at last an answer from someone sensible.

Rattles at start up with a lot of emmission smoke. could be a ring problem as well. when i say knackered, i dont mean all the ancillaries as well. Why would I.

I was a performance engine builder in the nineties, I am not now so, I do understand engines, I know when there is a problem, I needed an opinion from a garage as I dont do that anymore.

carsounds_dan

200 posts

203 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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they're known for having issues with the crank, I've had a read and some say its to do with bearing sizes, some say its lack of strength in the main bearing cradles.. personally I don't know.

If it's in warrenty then take it back to nissan, if out of warrenty, go back to them saying that when you asked them to look at it before they've obviously misses a fault. If you requesting them look over the engine was ever writen down then they'll be required to do something about the engine. See if the fault was logged with nissan before warrenty expired.

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

227 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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jdwcd said:
neiljohnson said:
Seen a few engine failures its normally big ends (which knacker the crank)around 40-50k mark Nissan are aware of the problem & have changed a few under goodwill outside of warranty.
at last an answer from someone sensible.

Rattles at start up with a lot of emmission smoke. could be a ring problem as well. when i say knackered, i dont mean all the ancillaries as well. Why would I.

I was a performance engine builder in the nineties, I am not now so, I do understand engines, I know when there is a problem, I needed an opinion from a garage as I dont do that anymore.
When you say rattle does it sound like a bottom end bearing? Is it using much oil? If not it could be a leaking injector/s flooding the engine when not running. As for the crank bearing issue first i heard of it was when someone i know bought one new it threw a rod @40k when 18 months old then failed again @100k but by then warranty had run out.As it had full dealer history he managed to get a goodwill replacement but sold it straight after.

heebeegeetee

29,769 posts

268 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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A mate had his cam-chain break at low miles on his Navara. The repair carried out under warranty then failed.

andrew.

10,261 posts

212 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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jdwcd said:
this one belongs to my wife, serviced properly, had lots of warranty work, never cained probably towed 3 or 4 times.
what about the nissan ?

fastcars_hardy

274 posts

218 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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If you reported the problem to nissan before the warranty ran out then you should be able to take it back and still get the work done. As long as it was not long ago and nissan keep all the paper work up together then it should be logged.

rb51

93 posts

204 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Iv worked on these engines a few times and it nearly always is no 3 big end failure which in turn destroys the shaft or timing chain tensioner and guide problems the navara engine is a pile of c##p as far as iv seen, plus for the amount of power you get in return for dire fuel consumption it's a joke of an engine.

betsyboris

3 posts

188 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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HI,

I have a 54 plate Navara D22 81K, regularly serviced by Nissan dealership, never towed, never driven hard and not used by 'builders', it suffered'catastrophic engine failure' last October on A23.3rd cylinder con rod, We were never told of this inherent fault, first we knew was from the RAC recovery guy, it was taken to a local garage, Nissan we contacted, they said they could not help, even though in fell completly into the catch net, under 5 years old, below 93k mileage, as it was imported into Britian via Cyprus, even though it was built in Japan and supposidly cover ed by the pan european warrenty.
WE had a replacement engine fitted, all is great now, although it was difficult to find a refurb engine...I wonder why!
But brighter news Nissan are again looking into my case

Wendy

Wheelrepairit

3,007 posts

224 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Isnt it just the D22 model or does the D40 fail as well.

duncancallum

959 posts

198 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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I work for a nissan dealer.

The D22s knock the big end shells out normaly on number 3. What you need to do is speak to your nissan dealer. Its your and there attidude that swings Nissan. We have put a short motor in a 6year old d22 before.

Does it have FULL history using genuine parts?
Did you buy it from a nissan dealer?
Do you own any other nissans or have you had any before?

those are the sort of questions asked by Nissan GB.




betsyboris

3 posts

188 months

Wednesday 14th April 2010
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Afternoon,

Nissan, now have all the relevant info, service history, mileage, sales documents, etc, and will be making a decission next Wednesday....

betsyboris

3 posts

188 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Afternoon,

Just to up-date, Today Nissan have offered ( and I have accepted) to pay for my engine & clutch replacement completly !!!!
After closing my case in October ....6 months later a full repayment...amazing

Very happy Wendy

andy97

4,779 posts

242 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Not a Navara but our X-Trail has had a new turbo at approx 48K miles and 2 x wheel bearings at between 60 & 80K miles, despite being serviced on schedule and never been off road. It is used to commute daily into the Peak District & to tow a race car about 6-8 times a year.

It seems to me that Nissan are building 4x4s to a budget & using car parts or low spec parts in the belief that they won't work too hard. However, the extra weight and unsprung weight of a 4 x 4 seems to put stress on parts that were not intended.