CR500 vs. ACB10 ??

CR500 vs. ACB10 ??

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dsl2

1,474 posts

203 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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I have only competed with my Busa engined 7 using crossply hillclimb super soft slicks & wets in the none road legal classes thus far.

Only tried the Kumho's for a few miles when I put a set on my R400 just before I sold it, as the previous CR500's were somewhat racked off!

As I say in the club championship, the top few classes run Kumho's & the feedback is overwhelmingly positive. The times the guys are doing tends to back that up too.

I am in the process of making my Busa road legal, & trying to fit in a few rounds of the club championship in class 5 this year as well as racing a Radical, hence sticking a set of Kumho's on it. Will report back when tried in anger!

gixermark

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743 posts

189 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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interesting debate... would be lovely to have the facility and ££ to test all these tyres back to back on the same car, same track, same day - altering the set up to suit cross ply to radial obviously...

I do find the sizes of the 235/45/13 strange in terms of diamater though... 526mm is tiny campared to most, and strangely is 4mm less than the 215/50/13 front... obviously the car can be set up to run correct rake etc.. but becomes a pain when you fit more 'conventional' slicks or wets that are a fair bit larger at the rear..

Think i will test ACB10s initially, but may try Kumho's too at some point in the season...


gixermark

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743 posts

189 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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sorry mean 536mm for the rear...

gixermark

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743 posts

189 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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If anyone has the 235/45/13 actually mounted on a 10" rim, would you mind measuring the circumference in mm or inches please ??


although the technical folk at Kumho have told me their measurements are mounted on rims... i can't understand why they woudl make a tyre so much smaller than any other......

BertBert

19,147 posts

213 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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there's probably some in my garage I can have a look at and measure this evening.
Bert

sam919

1,078 posts

198 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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Does a 10" not stick out from the arches too much?

gixermark

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743 posts

189 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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not on a radical...

waits to be shot down in flames :-)

dsl2

1,474 posts

203 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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I have 10" rears on my Caterham Busa with a 9.2 *22 crossply slick for the hillclimbs, they look the nuts & are fully covered by a nice set of MOG extra wide rear wings, supplied by Gary May at Freestyle.

dsl2

1,474 posts

203 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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536mm is just about spot on, offering up a tape side on I get around 530mm for the 235 Kumho fitted to a 8.5" rim

gixermark

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189 months

Saturday 17th January 2009
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thanks... are you using the Kumho's on the 8.5" rims on the same car that the 9.2/22/13 slicks on 10" rims ??

I have measured 9.2/22/13 avon slicks on 10" rims and they are quite a bit bigger than acb10s in 8/22/13 mounted up... so teh kumho would be quite a bit smaller again..

are you planning to run the kumhos on the busa caterham or the radical ??

dsl2

1,474 posts

203 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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Yes, running the Kumho's on the 8.5in rims on the rear of my Busa Caterham for road use, just got to get round to doing the setup changes to the camber & ride heights to suit. I have only used the Dunlop slicks & wet on the Radical thus far.

I would imagine if you were planning on using the kumhos on the Radical you would be needing to go with the hard compound ones for racing or they would just get too hot in a couple of laps due to the high loading caused by the downforce & fall apart?




Edited by dsl2 on Sunday 18th January 09:58

taffyracer

2,093 posts

245 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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The Kumho ECSTA V70A is what we the Kumho BMW championship use, been a few years since I raced in that championship but they are very good tyres indeed, we used to have to use the Hard compound though and they'd last very well but were too hard for the wet IMO, medium or soft would be superb i would have thought

gixermark

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743 posts

189 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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thanks guys...


just very intrigued as to why Kumho decided on the strange size of their rear ryres vs the competitors... i can only imagine they were made for aone make championship or something... very strange.

think i will stick to the plan to go acb10 and maybe look for a 'wet' road legal pattern that is similar in size that can be mounted onto wide-ish rims..

sensible

101 posts

185 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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I have run the kumho on a westfield here in australia they were fantastic gained over a second a lap vs the r888sg but i only got about 20 laps out of them and they were stuffed totally worn out.

If i could afford to put these on the car for each event i would but i cant

gixermark

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743 posts

189 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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i imagine you were on softs maybe ?? they do 3 compounds - although maybe not all available in Oz ??

sensible

101 posts

185 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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medium is all we get here, I got my r888sg through demon tweeks and freighted over here it is the same we can only get mediums in just about all the differnt brands.
Iget the same think from all the supplyers that it is too hot in australia to use softs but they dont understand that the car is only 500 kg and i only have 4 laps to get the best heat and pressure in to them