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funkyrobot said:
RemyMartin said:
Not friendly for a newbie is it.
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king hell (tongue in cheek) feels like ive been fighting the real ww1. Taken an age to level up to 9.
Finding it fecking difficult to get kills unless its tank cannon or similar.
It's one of the reasons I'm not bothering with it anymore. I don't have the time to spend hours and hours getting better at it. Therefore, it doesn't suit me. I am going to finish the campaign though as I've been enjoying that.f
king hell (tongue in cheek) feels like ive been fighting the real ww1. Taken an age to level up to 9.Finding it fecking difficult to get kills unless its tank cannon or similar.
Multiplayers should be the sort of games you pick up, play, then leave if you need to. This thing requires a bizarre amount of grinding for a Battlefield game.
Interesting that you mention the struggle to get kills. I've played loads of Battlefield games in the past and never had an issue. I've much preferred them to the COD style games. This one, however, seems different to the old stuff. It can turn into a COD style spanwn, die, spawn, die situation, but with annoying loading times in-between.
Edited by funkyrobot on Monday 21st November 08:57
Its brutal if you dont have a clue whats going on and havent played it before.
I've seen a few mentions of K/D in here, I've never been that bothered by it. As long as I am having a good time and contributing couldn't care less about the stats. Finished a game last night about 8 kills and 16 deaths.
However I was hunkered down with my squad protecting "Apples" as a medic, reviving them when they died, I ended up 6th on the leaderboard out of 40 odd people. Had a great game and we won as defenders stopping the attack
However I was hunkered down with my squad protecting "Apples" as a medic, reviving them when they died, I ended up 6th on the leaderboard out of 40 odd people. Had a great game and we won as defenders stopping the attack
anonymous said:
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I think you've hit the nail on the head - those people who worry about KDR are not going to enjoy Battlefield games because the games are not run and gun type shooters (except Team Deathmatch mode, obviously).The BF series are much more than that, they reward strategy much more than other games and have almost infinite ways to play them. Often the people who complain about the games are stuck in the "KDR Above All Else" mindset, sticking to a load out that favours twitch one on one encounters, but are getting dominated by snipers, aircraft or tanks, all of which are just unthinkingly labelled "Over Powered".
If you move past that and consider the options available to you to counter whatever "unfair" situation you find yourself in, you start to understand just how good the game can be.
youngsyr said:
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I think you've hit the nail on the head - those people who worry about KDR are not going to enjoy Battlefield games because the games are not run and gun type shooters (except Team Deathmatch mode, obviously).The BF series are much more than that, they reward strategy much more than other games and have almost infinite ways to play them. Often the people who complain about the games are stuck in the "KDR Above All Else" mindset, sticking to a load out that favours twitch one on one encounters, but are getting dominated by snipers, aircraft or tanks, all of which are just unthinkingly labelled "Over Powered".
If you move past that and consider the options available to you to counter whatever "unfair" situation you find yourself in, you start to understand just how good the game can be.
and anyone looking after their KD ratio is someone you absolutely dont want on your team. Playing the objectives should come above everything else to win or even enjoy this game.p1stonhead said:
youngsyr said:
anonymous said:
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I think you've hit the nail on the head - those people who worry about KDR are not going to enjoy Battlefield games because the games are not run and gun type shooters (except Team Deathmatch mode, obviously).The BF series are much more than that, they reward strategy much more than other games and have almost infinite ways to play them. Often the people who complain about the games are stuck in the "KDR Above All Else" mindset, sticking to a load out that favours twitch one on one encounters, but are getting dominated by snipers, aircraft or tanks, all of which are just unthinkingly labelled "Over Powered".
If you move past that and consider the options available to you to counter whatever "unfair" situation you find yourself in, you start to understand just how good the game can be.
and anyone looking after their KD ratio is someone you absolutely dont want on your team. Playing the objectives should come above everything else to win or even enjoy this game.
as an indication as to how the game had changed post update. It had always been poor because I play the objective. It's just now I seem to spwan:die a lot more. I also have found the one shot kills from opponents much worse than it was pre-update. I'd rather have someone on my team that can move forward (and kill) strategically than someone who will run into another team on their own repeatedly until they get lucky at an onjective. K/D ratios are a good indicator of an all-rounder IMO. Usually the guys at the top of the leader-board are there because they're a good mix of playing the objective and killing.
I'm not saying its not important to get some kills, I enjoy them as much as the next man but I think to focus too much on it is wrong, BF is so much more
In the session I referred to last night it meant that we nearly always had a respawn point at Objective A which saves time and stops the other team taking it back too quickly, it also meant A was easier to hold when it was attacked as they couldn't spawn straight in there and we could focus on B
Of course K/D is a stat to look at, especially as an attacker with limited tickets but I don't use it to define my success in the game as a whole, my overall K/D is probably about 0.8 but I win more overall games than I lose and am always high up in the leaderboard
In the session I referred to last night it meant that we nearly always had a respawn point at Objective A which saves time and stops the other team taking it back too quickly, it also meant A was easier to hold when it was attacked as they couldn't spawn straight in there and we could focus on B
Of course K/D is a stat to look at, especially as an attacker with limited tickets but I don't use it to define my success in the game as a whole, my overall K/D is probably about 0.8 but I win more overall games than I lose and am always high up in the leaderboard
The thing with BF games is that the moment you stop focussing on your KDR and start focussing on strategy and how to counter a situation, your KDR will improve!
A lot of that improvement has nothing to do with your aim or your reactions and everything to do with taking the right tools to do the job and using the environment to your advantage, rather than sticking with the same loadout and rushing straight-back into the same choke point that the enemy has killed you in the past 5 times.
A lot of that improvement has nothing to do with your aim or your reactions and everything to do with taking the right tools to do the job and using the environment to your advantage, rather than sticking with the same loadout and rushing straight-back into the same choke point that the enemy has killed you in the past 5 times.
I dont play anything other than Rush or Operations any more.
I cant get on with Conquest which is strange because I almost exclusively played it on BF4. It just isnt working for me for some reason this time. I think maybe its because the spawns seem a bit off? Sometimes it spawns you so damn far away from an objective!
I cant get on with Conquest which is strange because I almost exclusively played it on BF4. It just isnt working for me for some reason this time. I think maybe its because the spawns seem a bit off? Sometimes it spawns you so damn far away from an objective!
eybic said:
I'd say you could be very useful and your K/D will not show that. How about someone that captures/ defends only? Scoring points and playing the objective rather than "just" trying to get a good K/D ratio.
Yeah, I'm saying it's an indicator of how well you do at the shooty-shooty bit, not that it should be a target.CrutyRammers said:
eybic said:
I'd say you could be very useful and your K/D will not show that. How about someone that captures/ defends only? Scoring points and playing the objective rather than "just" trying to get a good K/D ratio.
Yeah, I'm saying it's an indicator of how well you do at the shooty-shooty bit, not that it should be a target.
anonymous said:
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Ditto - starting to get bored with the limited maps, played over the weekend and for the first time I was actually a little underwhelmed.I bought the Premium pass though so hopefully new content not too far away (a map due for release in December for everyone no?)
youngsyr said:
The thing with BF games is that the moment you stop focussing on your KDR and start focussing on strategy and how to counter a situation, your KDR will improve!
A lot of that improvement has nothing to do with your aim or your reactions and everything to do with taking the right tools to do the job and using the environment to your advantage, rather than sticking with the same loadout and rushing straight-back into the same choke point that the enemy has killed you in the past 5 times.
I agree wholeheartedly with this.A lot of that improvement has nothing to do with your aim or your reactions and everything to do with taking the right tools to do the job and using the environment to your advantage, rather than sticking with the same loadout and rushing straight-back into the same choke point that the enemy has killed you in the past 5 times.
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