Gran turismo 5....the official thread [Vol 2]
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You need to add ballast.
The Gallardo understeers horrendously in GT5, so I'd suggest the following...
Add all power upgrades. Then carry out all weight reductions and add as much ballast as possible at position 50 (rearmost) to reach the the ppt limit... adding ballast at the rear helps make the car turn better.
DO NOT ADD CHASSIS STRENGTHENING - this will only make the car understeer more.
Other settings I'd start with...
Run the 'gearbox flip' - set the max speed to minimum, then adjust 1st to max left, then adjust 6th to max right, adjust the final until you get a top speed around 200mph (this might need to be a bit higher or lower, can't remember the Gallardo's top speed on the main straight). Then spread out 2nd to 5th equally between 1st and 6th.
Diffs: centre diff something like 30/70 or 25/75, LSD decel to 5 front and rear, accel 15, initial 10
I'd then lower the front as low as it goes, leaving rear ride height at stock. Set camber at f2.0, r1.0. Toe -0.20, -0.10 (more negative rear toe will help turn the car better, but will make it more unstable). Bound damping 1 click lower than re-bound. Set rear ARB to 7 (max, I think), front around 2-3.
If the car understeers under braking try a slightly higher rear brake setting... if you're losing the rear on the brakes, set the front higher.... and don't equate high settings with better braking as it doesn't work like that... it's only the balance front to rear you're changing.
If you still struggle and just want to get gold, switch on skid recovery force, but the real trick to beating this one is knowing the track like the back of your hand and passing the opponent cars without losing time.
Good luck.
Edit:
Loads of discussion on this challenge here (including video's etc)... http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=262...
You should be aware that the thread started before the 2.09 update, so any tunes posted early on may not work post the physics update (a high front ride height is a good give away that the tune is pre the update).
The Gallardo understeers horrendously in GT5, so I'd suggest the following...
Add all power upgrades. Then carry out all weight reductions and add as much ballast as possible at position 50 (rearmost) to reach the the ppt limit... adding ballast at the rear helps make the car turn better.
DO NOT ADD CHASSIS STRENGTHENING - this will only make the car understeer more.
Other settings I'd start with...
Run the 'gearbox flip' - set the max speed to minimum, then adjust 1st to max left, then adjust 6th to max right, adjust the final until you get a top speed around 200mph (this might need to be a bit higher or lower, can't remember the Gallardo's top speed on the main straight). Then spread out 2nd to 5th equally between 1st and 6th.
Diffs: centre diff something like 30/70 or 25/75, LSD decel to 5 front and rear, accel 15, initial 10
I'd then lower the front as low as it goes, leaving rear ride height at stock. Set camber at f2.0, r1.0. Toe -0.20, -0.10 (more negative rear toe will help turn the car better, but will make it more unstable). Bound damping 1 click lower than re-bound. Set rear ARB to 7 (max, I think), front around 2-3.
If the car understeers under braking try a slightly higher rear brake setting... if you're losing the rear on the brakes, set the front higher.... and don't equate high settings with better braking as it doesn't work like that... it's only the balance front to rear you're changing.
If you still struggle and just want to get gold, switch on skid recovery force, but the real trick to beating this one is knowing the track like the back of your hand and passing the opponent cars without losing time.
Good luck.
Edit:
Loads of discussion on this challenge here (including video's etc)... http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=262...
You should be aware that the thread started before the 2.09 update, so any tunes posted early on may not work post the physics update (a high front ride height is a good give away that the tune is pre the update).
Edited by Chris Stott on Thursday 3rd January 17:10
Ok, well the good news is I did the Corvette TT last night, by 0.9secs! 4th legal lap. You were right, the car does have a lot of mechanical grip as long as you haven't lost it by braking too close to the corner or too hard. Your idea of 'coasting' to the apex gave me so much more confidence in the front end. I knew the lap wasn't the best but came onto the straight at 7:00 dead so I knew if I monstered the last corners I might just do it and lo and behold, I did!
Cheers for the Lambo tips as well, but I suspect that event will vanish within a week, they normally clear the last years out entirely don't they at the start of the year? Wouldn't surprise me if it goes after 10 Jan.
Cheers for the Lambo tips as well, but I suspect that event will vanish within a week, they normally clear the last years out entirely don't they at the start of the year? Wouldn't surprise me if it goes after 10 Jan.
zebedee said:
Ok, well the good news is I did the Corvette TT last night, by 0.9secs! 4th legal lap. You were right, the car does have a lot of mechanical grip as long as you haven't lost it by braking too close to the corner or too hard. Your idea of 'coasting' to the apex gave me so much more confidence in the front end. I knew the lap wasn't the best but came onto the straight at 7:00 dead so I knew if I monstered the last corners I might just do it and lo and behold, I did!
Cheers for the Lambo tips as well, but I suspect that event will vanish within a week, they normally clear the last years out entirely don't they at the start of the year? Wouldn't surprise me if it goes after 10 Jan.
Brilliant Cheers for the Lambo tips as well, but I suspect that event will vanish within a week, they normally clear the last years out entirely don't they at the start of the year? Wouldn't surprise me if it goes after 10 Jan.
Not sure if the Lambo event will stay, but if I get chance I'll do a tune for it tonight or tomorrow as someone else has asked me to do one.
Chris Stott said:
Brilliant
Not sure if the Lambo event will stay, but if I get chance I'll do a tune for it tonight or tomorrow as someone else has asked me to do one.
cheers, I was really surprised at the way you had to drive this car as it seemed so different to anything else I have driven in the game. Coasting to an apex seems against everything I understood about car control and the car seems very unstable on the brakes and how squirrelly it gets unless you are gentle. I am amazed that people can do a gold lap on lap 2 in it because extracting quick times from road cars on road tyres normally involves driving them quite differently, or maybe it is because I set them up to suit my style whereas that wasn't an option here?Not sure if the Lambo event will stay, but if I get chance I'll do a tune for it tonight or tomorrow as someone else has asked me to do one.
Edited to add I also double-checked TCS and it was on 5 so I took it off. Instantly found the car a lot more predictable and stable with it off, using a steady right foot of course. But the advice on braking was the clincher for me.
Edited by zebedee on Friday 4th January 17:51
The C7 would be much easier to drive with a brake balance of 5,7 (or a similar ratio F:R)... would help reduce the trail brake understeer!
I sent you a tune for the Lambo via PM... I also have a replay of a 6.55 free run lap and a also a replay of the race. Ping me an e-mail if you'd like them and I'll send them through. The race lap is really scruffy (couple of big saves!) but I still pass the last Muira well before the mini carousel and win by c.5 seconds.
Can't get rid of all the understeer on the Gallardo, so you need to adapt you style... it will not take any gas before the apex... so you have to wait to get on the throttle... feels slow, but is actually much faster.
I sent you a tune for the Lambo via PM... I also have a replay of a 6.55 free run lap and a also a replay of the race. Ping me an e-mail if you'd like them and I'll send them through. The race lap is really scruffy (couple of big saves!) but I still pass the last Muira well before the mini carousel and win by c.5 seconds.
Can't get rid of all the understeer on the Gallardo, so you need to adapt you style... it will not take any gas before the apex... so you have to wait to get on the throttle... feels slow, but is actually much faster.
Has anyone done the British lightweights challenge, and if so with what car?
I have tried a speed six cerb on 60% power with reduced weight and NA tuning, and I have tried a Caterham but again had to reduce it to a stupidly low power and got left for dust.
All my cars that meet the under 1200kg limit are around 550 to 600pp so to meet the 500pp limit I have to emasculate them and then end up losing
I have tried a speed six cerb on 60% power with reduced weight and NA tuning, and I have tried a Caterham but again had to reduce it to a stupidly low power and got left for dust.
All my cars that meet the under 1200kg limit are around 550 to 600pp so to meet the 500pp limit I have to emasculate them and then end up losing
mat777 said:
Has anyone done the British lightweights challenge, and if so with what car?
I have tried a speed six cerb on 60% power with reduced weight and NA tuning, and I have tried a Caterham but again had to reduce it to a stupidly low power and got left for dust.
All my cars that meet the under 1200kg limit are around 550 to 600pp so to meet the 500pp limit I have to emasculate them and then end up losing
You want an Elise 111rI have tried a speed six cerb on 60% power with reduced weight and NA tuning, and I have tried a Caterham but again had to reduce it to a stupidly low power and got left for dust.
All my cars that meet the under 1200kg limit are around 550 to 600pp so to meet the 500pp limit I have to emasculate them and then end up losing
Here's a set up for it that I built for the recent Autumn Ring Mini Seasonal TT - it's a good tune as I ended 12th in the World and a few of my mates used it too.
It's built for 480ppts and sports hard tyres, but should be OK for comfort softs. You'll need to add a turbo to get enough ppts - don't be tempted to reduce the ballast as you'll change the balance of the car. If it's a bit tail happy on comforts try upping the wing to 12-15, changing the rear toe from -0.05 to +0.05 or reducing the LSD accel to 10. If you need to change the gearing just adjust the final.
Parts:
Weight reduction stage 3
Window weight reduction
Carbon bonnet
Rigidity improvement
ECU
Engine tunning stage 3
Sports intake manifold
Racing air filter
Sports manifold
Catalytic convertor
Titanium racing exhaust
Fully customisable transmission
Twin plate clutch
Racing flywheel
Fully customisable LSD
Fully customisable suspension
Rear wing
Ballast: 127kg @ position 20
Makes 251bhp @ 886kg for 480ppts
Settings:
Ride -25 +40
Springs 7.0 15.0
Rebound 4 9
Bound 3 8
ARB 1 6
Camber 2.0 1.5
Toe -0.12 -0.05
LSD 10 12 5
Wing 10
Gears... reset to defualt, then set max speed to minium, then set individual gears, then final
1st 3.807
2nd 2.933
3rd 2.428
4th 2.035
5th 1.713
6th 1.460
Final 3.593
Good luck
mat777 said:
Has anyone done the British lightweights challenge, and if so with what car?
I have tried a speed six cerb on 60% power with reduced weight and NA tuning, and I have tried a Caterham but again had to reduce it to a stupidly low power and got left for dust.
All my cars that meet the under 1200kg limit are around 550 to 600pp so to meet the 500pp limit I have to emasculate them and then end up losing
Think I used a lightened evora with aero, that is quite a weapon, and capable of tuning across a good range of PPsI have tried a speed six cerb on 60% power with reduced weight and NA tuning, and I have tried a Caterham but again had to reduce it to a stupidly low power and got left for dust.
All my cars that meet the under 1200kg limit are around 550 to 600pp so to meet the 500pp limit I have to emasculate them and then end up losing
zebedee said:
mat777 said:
Has anyone done the British lightweights challenge, and if so with what car?
I have tried a speed six cerb on 60% power with reduced weight and NA tuning, and I have tried a Caterham but again had to reduce it to a stupidly low power and got left for dust.
All my cars that meet the under 1200kg limit are around 550 to 600pp so to meet the 500pp limit I have to emasculate them and then end up losing
Think I used a lightened evora with aero, that is quite a weapon, and capable of tuning across a good range of PPsI have tried a speed six cerb on 60% power with reduced weight and NA tuning, and I have tried a Caterham but again had to reduce it to a stupidly low power and got left for dust.
All my cars that meet the under 1200kg limit are around 550 to 600pp so to meet the 500pp limit I have to emasculate them and then end up losing
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Alfanatic said:
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said: The standard one is fine. Many thanks.
My reason for wanting it is because i drove the Ring in my e46 M3 on Saturday and i want to see how much easier it is on gt5, because in real life it was utterly terrifying!
Cheers
I'm interested in hearing your conclusions on that too!My reason for wanting it is because i drove the Ring in my e46 M3 on Saturday and i want to see how much easier it is on gt5, because in real life it was utterly terrifying!
Cheers
Will do chaps. Somehow i am going to have to replicate my setup (overloaded) somehow.
I had a car full to the brim with goodies i was bringing home after christmas. Apart from 5kg of bacon, 5kg of cheese and 15L of fruit squash i also had the 4 19" summer wheels in the car plus Christmas luggage for 2 and all of our presents. I had the summer rear wheels strapped into the rear seats and the two fronts strapped to the roof inside a box. It was not the best handeling of cars
On top (or more acuratly underneath ) all of that i was running on the 17" skinny winter snow tyres. I felt like i had zero grip, it understeered a lot.
Found a pic of it on the net.
http://www.racetracker.de/event/picture/222354-3ad...
My video is here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU7y21Z6L_Q
i was going to write up my experiances as a first timer for General Gassing when i get time
I had a car full to the brim with goodies i was bringing home after christmas. Apart from 5kg of bacon, 5kg of cheese and 15L of fruit squash i also had the 4 19" summer wheels in the car plus Christmas luggage for 2 and all of our presents. I had the summer rear wheels strapped into the rear seats and the two fronts strapped to the roof inside a box. It was not the best handeling of cars
On top (or more acuratly underneath ) all of that i was running on the 17" skinny winter snow tyres. I felt like i had zero grip, it understeered a lot.
Found a pic of it on the net.
http://www.racetracker.de/event/picture/222354-3ad...
My video is here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU7y21Z6L_Q
i was going to write up my experiances as a first timer for General Gassing when i get time
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