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Steve Evil said:
Sure you have the name right? Can't find anything on google.
It's called "Maggie", there are variations called "Bowie Maggie" which is the same base legendary revolver with a bayonet attachment. Minor spoiler, completely and totally inconsequential to the story, you had to kill the Zafords at the end of the "Clan War" quest, Mick Zaford drops it as his rare item drop. If he doesnt drop it, save and quit out, reload in The Dust area and drive to the train station where the shootout takes place, the Zafords will respawn and you can keep killing him until he drops the gun.It fires 6 shots for every pull of the trigger and only costs a bullet per pull (8 round drum, meaning 54 individual pellets), the spread is not that tight but for up-close death dealing it's excellent. Mine is only level 41 and feels a bit weak against level 50 enemies. However, it's a great weapon to break Terramorphous, or better than most at least, as it has a high rate of rife, very fast reload and gives out a lot of individual projectiles.
The key to beating Terramorphous with the Bee shield is to be able to put out as many individual projectiles, regardless of their power, as quickly as possible. The Bee shield adds 50,000 (yes, you read that right) damage to each individual projectile, so my Maggie would do 310,000 damage per shot, and can unload 8 rounds in under 2 seconds, with a 2 second reload. This means I can theoretically output 2.5million damage on Terramorphous in 4 second cycles, as long as they don't nerf the Bee in a patch.
On the other hand, the Conference Call shotgun that the final boss drops as his rare item drop is a 6 pellet shooting shotgun, and each individual pellet breaks up into 6 smaller pellets in flight. Each pull of the trigger will theoretically deal 1.8million damage per pull of the trigger, and I think it has an 8 round mag too.
If you have been following randy pitchford on twitter and entering his shift codes into your game you know you get things.
on 4 i think, all new chars get a smg, assault rifle and sniper rifle and a relic which gives you +5% rare loot finds.
i just typed my 8th in and just my bloody luck, it gives you the mechromancer dlc for free, which i paid for and downloaded earlier today
on 4 i think, all new chars get a smg, assault rifle and sniper rifle and a relic which gives you +5% rare loot finds.
i just typed my 8th in and just my bloody luck, it gives you the mechromancer dlc for free, which i paid for and downloaded earlier today
I've just about lost interest in this game now:
It was good to start with, but now, it's just turned into:
Do while ( TheWorldSpins )
Bang, You're Dead
Respawn
Loop
Oh, and when you save and leave it, come back a few hours later to find you have to do half of it all over again it just makes it more annoying.
It was good to start with, but now, it's just turned into:
Do while ( TheWorldSpins )
Bang, You're Dead
Respawn
Loop
Oh, and when you save and leave it, come back a few hours later to find you have to do half of it all over again it just makes it more annoying.
After about 20 minutes of farming Hunter Hellquist, I got the level 50 Bee shield, which is just as well as this game is starting to feel a bit broken. Clearly, by the end of True Vault Hunter mode, you were not intended to be playing alone. I've had some good shields, with 35,000 shield, <3 second recharge times and 5000+ recharge rates, but the enemies are just so over-healthed it is unreal. On one mission, marked "level 47 - trivial" I had to fight 4 level 50 ambush commanders (large nomads with spiked shields) at once, each with over a million health. I think this would have been impossible, and many other parts, without the turret having the incredible Nuclear Blast skill and rocket pods, as even it's insane firepower can feel like it's throwing malteasers at granite at times.
The Bee shield is not such a game breaker imo, with only 20,000 shield points and 5 second recharge you don't want to be wearing this thing when you are in the thick of a firefight, as it's poor defensively, and if you don't have full charge you don't get the damage bonus. The red font for this item says "Float like a butterfly", and you really will need the footwork of Ali to get the best from it, as at level 50 the enemies rarely miss, meaning it's hard to put the damage bonus to good use.
However, I now feel that I may have a fleeting chance against Terramorphous, and if I can get a Conference Call shotgun, even better. I just need to hope that when I pop my turret, in the 30 seconds or so it lasts to distract the king Thresher, I can get enough bullets through Maggie or the Conference Call to put the b
d down.
ULTRA MINOR SPOILER ALERT
As a cool little Easter Egg moment (aside from the Minecraft one, which was awesome, and the Dark Souls one that I didn't see, but is also cool), when you are on the mission where you have to go to the "Bunker", about 2/3rds of the way through the game, if you look off the edge of the tower you find yourself on, preferably when the shooting is over, you will see a ring of mountains with a lake bowl in the middle. Watch it long enough and you will see Terramorphous swimming in the lake, sometimes he comes to the top and has a bit look around and then dives under again. Alternatively, sometimes he spreads his tentacles across the lake, without rise out of the water and feel around before submerging again. Neat little moment!
The Bee shield is not such a game breaker imo, with only 20,000 shield points and 5 second recharge you don't want to be wearing this thing when you are in the thick of a firefight, as it's poor defensively, and if you don't have full charge you don't get the damage bonus. The red font for this item says "Float like a butterfly", and you really will need the footwork of Ali to get the best from it, as at level 50 the enemies rarely miss, meaning it's hard to put the damage bonus to good use.
However, I now feel that I may have a fleeting chance against Terramorphous, and if I can get a Conference Call shotgun, even better. I just need to hope that when I pop my turret, in the 30 seconds or so it lasts to distract the king Thresher, I can get enough bullets through Maggie or the Conference Call to put the b
d down.ULTRA MINOR SPOILER ALERT
As a cool little Easter Egg moment (aside from the Minecraft one, which was awesome, and the Dark Souls one that I didn't see, but is also cool), when you are on the mission where you have to go to the "Bunker", about 2/3rds of the way through the game, if you look off the edge of the tower you find yourself on, preferably when the shooting is over, you will see a ring of mountains with a lake bowl in the middle. Watch it long enough and you will see Terramorphous swimming in the lake, sometimes he comes to the top and has a bit look around and then dives under again. Alternatively, sometimes he spreads his tentacles across the lake, without rise out of the water and feel around before submerging again. Neat little moment!
Well, I got a few cool legendaries last night. After finishing the game and farming the warrior for hours on end, still I had no legendary item drops from him. Saying as he carries multiple legendary items, I knew my chances of getting the Conference Call shotgun I so desperately wanted were slim, and as it takes about 15 minutes a time to get to the warrior, kill him and sell the loot before starting again, my patience was wearing thin.
I had a few shots at beating Terramorphous with the Bee shield and the Maggie revolver, but I just couldnt survive long enough to take him down. I had him down to about 1/4 health, but ran out of tentacles to shoot down for a second wind. I decided the only way to beat him was to join forces with another level 50 player online. I joined a game with one other player in it, who was in the travel hub in Sanctuary. He started looking at me, then looking at the ground, then squatting up and down. All of a sudden, he dropped a bunch of legendary loot on the ground, which I then realised were duplicate items, so I started picking them up. After grabbing a few of them, my game crashed, I was devastated. However, when I turned the game back on and loaded in Sanctuary in single player, I had 2 Conference Calls (one shock, one fire, the shock has a single pellet extra over the fire) and an Infinity pistol. I think I'll either try and duplicate my Fire CC, which is still an unbelieveable boss killing weapon, or if that's too much hassle I'll just donate it to my brother so he can boss whoop too and share some of my good fortune to have been gifted such kit.
I took the shock Conference call to Terramorphous peak, then beat him in under 15 seconds on my first go. I grabbed a load of the loot and set about farming. Terramorphous is supposed to have some awesome legendary gear, but all I can get out of him are the class based "Terramorphous Slayer" mods. I got a Soldier mod for myself, got one to stash for my brother and an Assasin class SOT mod for a friend, all level 50 gear of course, so it will be a while until they can use it. However, after the hours of grinding (some people have farmed the warrior for weeks and not earned a CC) I didn't want any of my friends to suffer having to to grind the warrior, though farming a Bee shield from Hunter Hellquist is easy and quick - I was killing him about once every 3 minutes and it's pretty much essential for soloing a True Vault Hunter playthrough.
I took one of my level 35 friends to Terramorphous peak and he stood outside the arena while I went in and killed Terramorphous, he got the achievement for standing outside then came in and hauled a load of the loot, which is unusable until he hits level 50, but the weaponry and shields you get on Terramorphous Peak are better than anything else you'll find elsewhere in the world.
The Infinity pistol I got is incredible too. It's listed as having 1 shot magazines, but in reality it fires continusously and quickly as long as the trigger is held, it never needs reloading and doesnt actually use ammo, hence "Infinity". At 7000dmg a shot, and 3 shots a second it's not a huge damage output, but it's great for soloing weaker enemies without wasting ammo.
I'm going to set about farming Old Slappy tonight to see if I can get his legendary shotgun. Wish me luck, the farming for a vault hunter never ends!
I had a few shots at beating Terramorphous with the Bee shield and the Maggie revolver, but I just couldnt survive long enough to take him down. I had him down to about 1/4 health, but ran out of tentacles to shoot down for a second wind. I decided the only way to beat him was to join forces with another level 50 player online. I joined a game with one other player in it, who was in the travel hub in Sanctuary. He started looking at me, then looking at the ground, then squatting up and down. All of a sudden, he dropped a bunch of legendary loot on the ground, which I then realised were duplicate items, so I started picking them up. After grabbing a few of them, my game crashed, I was devastated. However, when I turned the game back on and loaded in Sanctuary in single player, I had 2 Conference Calls (one shock, one fire, the shock has a single pellet extra over the fire) and an Infinity pistol. I think I'll either try and duplicate my Fire CC, which is still an unbelieveable boss killing weapon, or if that's too much hassle I'll just donate it to my brother so he can boss whoop too and share some of my good fortune to have been gifted such kit.
I took the shock Conference call to Terramorphous peak, then beat him in under 15 seconds on my first go. I grabbed a load of the loot and set about farming. Terramorphous is supposed to have some awesome legendary gear, but all I can get out of him are the class based "Terramorphous Slayer" mods. I got a Soldier mod for myself, got one to stash for my brother and an Assasin class SOT mod for a friend, all level 50 gear of course, so it will be a while until they can use it. However, after the hours of grinding (some people have farmed the warrior for weeks and not earned a CC) I didn't want any of my friends to suffer having to to grind the warrior, though farming a Bee shield from Hunter Hellquist is easy and quick - I was killing him about once every 3 minutes and it's pretty much essential for soloing a True Vault Hunter playthrough.
I took one of my level 35 friends to Terramorphous peak and he stood outside the arena while I went in and killed Terramorphous, he got the achievement for standing outside then came in and hauled a load of the loot, which is unusable until he hits level 50, but the weaponry and shields you get on Terramorphous Peak are better than anything else you'll find elsewhere in the world.
The Infinity pistol I got is incredible too. It's listed as having 1 shot magazines, but in reality it fires continusously and quickly as long as the trigger is held, it never needs reloading and doesnt actually use ammo, hence "Infinity". At 7000dmg a shot, and 3 shots a second it's not a huge damage output, but it's great for soloing weaker enemies without wasting ammo.
I'm going to set about farming Old Slappy tonight to see if I can get his legendary shotgun. Wish me luck, the farming for a vault hunter never ends!
Mastodon2 said:
and as it takes about 15 minutes a time to get to the warrior, kill him and sell the loot before starting again, my patience was wearing thin.
If you save and quit and reload after you kill him, you pop out at the machines just before you run into his arena. Takes about a minute to get back into the action, or am I missing something?Aphex said:
If you save and quit and reload after you kill him, you pop out at the machines just before you run into his arena. Takes about a minute to get back into the action, or am I missing something?
Now there is a trick I'd not heard before. Now claims of people on the Borderlands forum saying they killed the warrior 3000+ times without getting a conference call seem a bit more believable.Mastodon2 said:
Now there is a trick I'd not heard before. Now claims of people on the Borderlands forum saying they killed the warrior 3000+ times without getting a conference call seem a bit more believable.
Sod having to run through heros pass each time, you must have been pulling your hair out trying to get that shotgun!
OK, so my Mechromancer is up to L18.
I melted through Wilhelm like he wasn't there. Literally gone before the "OMG it's New Haven all over again" dialogue had finished.
You know that mutated badass varkid sidequest that you always leave because it's impossible when you get to Tundra Express? Done and dusted in a couple of minutes.
More anarchy!
Eh, accuracy's overrated anyway.
I melted through Wilhelm like he wasn't there. Literally gone before the "OMG it's New Haven all over again" dialogue had finished.
You know that mutated badass varkid sidequest that you always leave because it's impossible when you get to Tundra Express? Done and dusted in a couple of minutes.
More anarchy!
Eh, accuracy's overrated anyway.
Mastodon2 said:
It's called "Maggie", there are variations called "Bowie Maggie" which is the same base legendary revolver with a bayonet attachment. Minor spoiler, completely and totally inconsequential to the story, you had to kill the Zafords at the end of the "Clan War" quest, Mick Zaford drops it as his rare item drop. If he doesnt drop it, save and quit out, reload in The Dust area and drive to the train station where the shootout takes place, the Zafords will respawn and you can keep killing him until he drops the gun.
It fires 6 shots for every pull of the trigger and only costs a bullet per pull (8 round drum, meaning 54 individual pellets), the spread is not that tight but for up-close death dealing it's excellent. Mine is only level 41 and feels a bit weak against level 50 enemies. However, it's a great weapon to break Terramorphous, or better than most at least, as it has a high rate of rife, very fast reload and gives out a lot of individual projectiles.
The key to beating Terramorphous with the Bee shield is to be able to put out as many individual projectiles, regardless of their power, as quickly as possible. The Bee shield adds 50,000 (yes, you read that right) damage to each individual projectile, so my Maggie would do 310,000 damage per shot, and can unload 8 rounds in under 2 seconds, with a 2 second reload. This means I can theoretically output 2.5million damage on Terramorphous in 4 second cycles, as long as they don't nerf the Bee in a patch.
On the other hand, the Conference Call shotgun that the final boss drops as his rare item drop is a 6 pellet shooting shotgun, and each individual pellet breaks up into 6 smaller pellets in flight. Each pull of the trigger will theoretically deal 1.8million damage per pull of the trigger, and I think it has an 8 round mag too.
I'm confused here,I tried the clan war quest,it had me setting off fireworks,then finding a secret money stash and then it ended...no shoot out anywhere in sight and it shows as completed in my missions ? Do I just have to go back and kill mick zacford n their hideaway?It fires 6 shots for every pull of the trigger and only costs a bullet per pull (8 round drum, meaning 54 individual pellets), the spread is not that tight but for up-close death dealing it's excellent. Mine is only level 41 and feels a bit weak against level 50 enemies. However, it's a great weapon to break Terramorphous, or better than most at least, as it has a high rate of rife, very fast reload and gives out a lot of individual projectiles.
The key to beating Terramorphous with the Bee shield is to be able to put out as many individual projectiles, regardless of their power, as quickly as possible. The Bee shield adds 50,000 (yes, you read that right) damage to each individual projectile, so my Maggie would do 310,000 damage per shot, and can unload 8 rounds in under 2 seconds, with a 2 second reload. This means I can theoretically output 2.5million damage on Terramorphous in 4 second cycles, as long as they don't nerf the Bee in a patch.
On the other hand, the Conference Call shotgun that the final boss drops as his rare item drop is a 6 pellet shooting shotgun, and each individual pellet breaks up into 6 smaller pellets in flight. Each pull of the trigger will theoretically deal 1.8million damage per pull of the trigger, and I think it has an 8 round mag too.
Mastodon2 said:
I took the shock Conference call to Terramorphous peak, then beat him in under 15 seconds on my first go. I grabbed a load of the loot and set about farming. Terramorphous is supposed to have some awesome legendary gear, but all I can get out of him are the class based "Terramorphous Slayer" mods.
IIRC, Terramorphous only gives out legendary class mods and nothing else?I was quite lucky as a friend had carried out a lot of farming and just dumped all their items in my game for me, so I have the legendary guns/shields/mods all ready in my safe for when I hit 50
For anyone not aware, you invite your friend with the 'goods' into your game and touch nothing whilst they drop their complete inventory on the floor (this is REALLY important as if it autosaves, they will lose their bits, although you can just give them back), they then use the guide button to go back to the dashboard and then you can pick up their stuff. When they reload, they will still have all their stuff as it didn't save for them. Old Borderlands 1 trick
franki68 said:
I'm confused here,I tried the clan war quest,it had me setting off fireworks,then finding a secret money stash and then it ended...no shoot out anywhere in sight and it shows as completed in my missions ? Do I just have to go back and kill mick zacford n their hideaway?
You do a few missions in this plotline, going back and forward between the Hodunks and The Zafords.MINOR SPOILERS NOT RELATING TO MAIN PLOT:
Blow up the Hodunk's big tyre
Blow up the Zaford's booze
Blow up the Hodunk's race cars
Kill Zaford's son and raid the loot cave
Burn the Hodunks in their trailers
Kill the Zafords at the wake
Then you get the showdown. When you arrive at the train station (the one that takes you to Lynchwood) the Hodunks are on one platform and the Zafords are on the other. At this point, you will want to start blasting the Zafords with everything you've got. Once you've completed the mission, turn it in for your reward, then save and quit out and load back in. The Zafords, being the clan you turned on, will respawn at the train station, so you can go back and kill them again until Zaford drops a Maggie.
:J: said:
IIRC, Terramorphous only gives out legendary class mods and nothing else?
He also drops the Hide of Terramorphous which is a shield, the Breath of Terramorphous, which is a grenade, the Teeth of Terramorphous which is a shotgun, and the Blood of Terramorphous which is a relic. He also drops some heads and skins which are unique to him I believe, but I'm not bothered about those. I believe the "...of Terramorphous" items are the only unique items in the game which cannot be dropped by the Warrior. Speaking of which, I killed him about 15 times again last night, and another 5 before work this morning and still not a single legendary item from him.Edited by Mastodon2 on Tuesday 23 October 13:24
Mastodon2 said:
You do a few missions in this plotline, going back and forward between the Hodunks and The Zafords.
MINOR SPOILERS NOT RELATING TO MAIN PLOT:
Blow up the Hodunk's big tyre
Blow up the Zaford's booze
Blow up the Hodunk's race cars
Kill Zaford's son and raid the loot cave
Burn the Hodunks in their trailers
Kill the Zafords at the wake
Then you get the showdown. When you arrive at the train station (the one that takes you to Lynchwood) the Hodunks are on one platform and the Zafords are on the other. At this point, you will want to start blasting the Zafords with everything you've got. Once you've completed the mission, turn it in for your reward, then save and quit out and load back in. The Zafords, being the clan you turned on, will respawn at the train station, so you can go back and kill them again until Zaford drops a Maggie.
Oh. I seem to remember siding with one of them and then the mission ended. I never saw the showdown you mention. MINOR SPOILERS NOT RELATING TO MAIN PLOT:
Blow up the Hodunk's big tyre
Blow up the Zaford's booze
Blow up the Hodunk's race cars
Kill Zaford's son and raid the loot cave
Burn the Hodunks in their trailers
Kill the Zafords at the wake
Then you get the showdown. When you arrive at the train station (the one that takes you to Lynchwood) the Hodunks are on one platform and the Zafords are on the other. At this point, you will want to start blasting the Zafords with everything you've got. Once you've completed the mission, turn it in for your reward, then save and quit out and load back in. The Zafords, being the clan you turned on, will respawn at the train station, so you can go back and kill them again until Zaford drops a Maggie.
JonRB said:
Oh. I seem to remember siding with one of them and then the mission ended. I never saw the showdown you mention.
Go to the train station then, it's in the Dust, marked on the map as the gate to Lynchwood. If you sided with the Hodunks, the Zafords will have respawned there. Speaking of legendaries, I farmed Old Slappy last night and obtained the "Striker" shotgun, which is a legendary shotgun which is not amazing statwise, but has an unusually tight spread for a shotgun, which allows for precise critical shots, which is not easy with a lot of wider-spread shotguns. However, it only fires 7 pellets so it's not that hot with the Bee, but on the plus side it only consumes one shell per shot.
I also farmed Madame Von Bartlesby for the "Babymaker" SMG, a pink Tediore weapon with average stats other than a high-ish magazine size (52 shots on mine) but when you reload it, you throw it like a grenade in typical Tediore fashion, and it explodes like a MIRV grenade, spawning 1-3 child version of the gun which also explode, hence babymaker. The explosions on mine, regardless of Bee status deal 1.3million dmg each. 1.f
king3! That said, the one that Bartlesby dropped for me is level 48 only spawns one baby, so I might go back and try and get a level 50 or one that spawns 3. The word on the Borderlands forum at the moment is that the Babymaker is the gun to have to beat Hyperius in the DL content, as it's so powerful on the reload explosion that you can batter Hyperius and the minions he spawns down with it, even if he drops your Bee.CommanderJameson said:
OK, so my Mechromancer is up to L18.
I melted through Wilhelm like he wasn't there. Literally gone before the "OMG it's New Haven all over again" dialogue had finished.
You know that mutated badass varkid sidequest that you always leave because it's impossible when you get to Tundra Express? Done and dusted in a couple of minutes.
More anarchy!
Eh, accuracy's overrated anyway.
That mission is not too tough, though I had done every sidequest prior to that one before I arrived at Tundra Express, meaning I was the maximum level possible when I arrived there to do that quest. Those Badass Varkids aren't so tough, especially if you get a decent corrosive weapon. Tiny Tina gives a quest reward for the "Tea Party" which is a unique, but not legendary, corrosive "Tea pot" pistol, which will be powerful enough to last for a long time into the game.I melted through Wilhelm like he wasn't there. Literally gone before the "OMG it's New Haven all over again" dialogue had finished.
You know that mutated badass varkid sidequest that you always leave because it's impossible when you get to Tundra Express? Done and dusted in a couple of minutes.
More anarchy!
Eh, accuracy's overrated anyway.
Edited by Mastodon2 on Tuesday 23 October 13:34
Mastodon2 said:
That mission is not too tough, though I had done every sidequest prior to that one before I arrived at Tundra Express, meaning I was the maximum level possible when I arrived there to do that quest. Those Badass Varkids aren't so tough, especially if you get a decent corrosive weapon. Tiny Tina gives a quest reward for the "Tea Party" which is a unique, but not legendary, corrosive "Tea pot" pistol, which will be powerful enough to last for a long time into the game.
The Tea Pot was what did for Wilhelm.Mastodon2 said:
Go to the train station then, it's in the Dust, marked on the map as the gate to Lynchwood. If you sided with the Hodunks, the Zafords will have respawned there.
Yup, I know it. I discovered it when doing the Bane side-questm but I don't recall anyone being there. I'll investigate further when I next happen to play the game (I've got a bit bored with it lately).Gassing Station | Video Games | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff