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Rght, Over the hill has now been updated with the right turn barriers removed and checkpoints adjusted 
It should allow for slightly quicker lap times as you can take a wider line into the corner obviously
Edit: a couple of old missiles removed
and also I've added a pit lane just before the tunnel
It should allow for slightly quicker lap times as you can take a wider line into the corner obviously
Edit: a couple of old missiles removed
and also I've added a pit lane just before the tunnelEdited by djdest on Monday 13th April 23:59
As a riposte to Over the Hill, which I'm concerned is too narrow for proper endurance racing, I decided to throw together a track of my own with similar cues but with a lot more open spaces. Starts with a Large Grid on Vinewood Boulevard 4-across rather than 2 (so there's less of a collision chance) before heading into the Vinewood hills. Runs down the hills near Martin's house before back onto wide roads and ninety-degree turns to allow for some old-fashioned overtaking. I can do a 4 minutes dead in a stock Cheetah, let me know how you guys get on. Massacros seem to be the regular vehicles for this stuff, but I reckon a Feltzer would be faster.
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I'll give it a go, but I'm a little confused because it uses a big portion of Over the hill anyway!
I'm not bothered which track we use tbh as long as we decide on one so we can get some practice in.
The only thing that I would say, is after the last endurance race I thought 4 min laps were quite long
I'm not bothered which track we use tbh as long as we decide on one so we can get some practice in.
The only thing that I would say, is after the last endurance race I thought 4 min laps were quite long
One of the reasons I suggested Over The Hill is that it has one section of track used twice in a lap. It's also not at all bad to race against others - there are overtaking opportunities by taking different lines.
Not sure using the hills near Martin's house solves your perceived issue of narrow roads either.
Not sure using the hills near Martin's house solves your perceived issue of narrow roads either.
Yes, but it's only one small section that's narrow and needs a single file line. It's what I'd like to call an improved version of Over the Hill, the city section is much, much wider and makes it easier to start the race. I like Over the Hill, I'm just trying to make it a better track. By the time you get to the very narrow section, there'll be a bigger gap between the teams rather than the bunching up at the start. I like Over The Hill, but as a Time Attack course rather than a sensible endurance race.
You've missed out my favourite bit of Over The Hill though - the bends above the Vinewood Bowl where you can, if you get a good line through the second, get a great run onto the start-finish straight.
Might be worth considering yours as an addition rather than replacement; how many tracks do we nominate?
Might be worth considering yours as an addition rather than replacement; how many tracks do we nominate?
Ive got to say, I really have a pet hate for that section down past Martin's house.
One of my all time favourite tracks is the Nurburgring one, but I really hate that bit of it every time I race on it
One of the reasons I love over the hill so much is because it is a literally a roller coaster of high speed corners with lots of up and down hill sections, it makes a nice change from the wide, straight city streets
One of my all time favourite tracks is the Nurburgring one, but I really hate that bit of it every time I race on it
One of the reasons I love over the hill so much is because it is a literally a roller coaster of high speed corners with lots of up and down hill sections, it makes a nice change from the wide, straight city streets
djdest said:
Ive got to say, I really have a pet hate for that section down past Martin's house.
One of my all time favourite tracks is the Nurburgring one, but I really hate that bit of it every time I race on it
One of the reasons I love over the hill so much is because it is a literally a roller coaster of high speed corners with lots of up and down hill sections, it makes a nice change from the wide, straight city streets
But when you get it right its rather satisfying One of my all time favourite tracks is the Nurburgring one, but I really hate that bit of it every time I race on it
One of the reasons I love over the hill so much is because it is a literally a roller coaster of high speed corners with lots of up and down hill sections, it makes a nice change from the wide, straight city streets
I really like over the hill, probably because I'm getting good at it (3:03.9 in a massacro before the update). It has some really tricky sections and some corners that you need to take perfectly to get a good run up the hill which leads to decent overtaking opportunities.
There are places where you can screw yourself if you come off but that's going to make a long race more interesting.
I really liked the last track against vccm because the most critical corner for carrying speed through would punish you if you got it wrong by launching you off the cliff.
We need to try over the hill with a lot of people. The start is going to be tricky and people will need to give way. Now that the blue barriers at the split have been removed i would like to see what happens when two cars join the same part of the track from the different directions. I dont know if the guy coming from the right will see the one on the left due to the other tall blue barriers.
There are places where you can screw yourself if you come off but that's going to make a long race more interesting.
I really liked the last track against vccm because the most critical corner for carrying speed through would punish you if you got it wrong by launching you off the cliff.
We need to try over the hill with a lot of people. The start is going to be tricky and people will need to give way. Now that the blue barriers at the split have been removed i would like to see what happens when two cars join the same part of the track from the different directions. I dont know if the guy coming from the right will see the one on the left due to the other tall blue barriers.
Thats why I left the other blue barriers, that section is always going to be a little bit of a gamble from both directions.
That coupled with some other critical corners should help stopping the grid get too spaced apart during the race.
I would imagine that it would take quite a few laps before there were any crossovers at the shared section anyway.
It all adds to the challenge
That coupled with some other critical corners should help stopping the grid get too spaced apart during the race.
I would imagine that it would take quite a few laps before there were any crossovers at the shared section anyway.
It all adds to the challenge
A Start-Finish straight that's useless for any sort of large grid. This is the same issue we ran into with the VCCM endurance challenge. Everyone loved it for the fast laps and the flowing sections, but it wasn't so great in race trim because it was too narrow. Over the Hill is a great track, I'm not denying, but calling it an Endurance track is moronic. It's a Time Attack course, or for one or two people. 16 people all in different vehicles? It'll be frustrating more than anything. Having only one very narrow bit keeps the right feel you're going for with OTH with the fast corners you need to keep a hold of, but it also has broad bits that mean that there's actually overtaking opportunities rather than 'waiting for the guy in front of you to screw up'. The better races I've had have had slow, broad and wide corners to keep two cars into the corner and give each other space.
I'm sorry, I don't recall Circuit De La Sarthe being only two cars wide at every section. There needs to be areas to pass slower cars anyway. The reason I'm being aggressive is because I had some great races with VCCM on Sunday night but most of them were on fairly open tracks such as Olympic Grand Prix and Los Santos GP full version. Narrow mountain road racing does not make for fun with large grids and bad drivers with way too much opinion of themselves (of which both our crews are guilty) will only make it frustrating, not fun.
I well recall driving down the Mulsanne straight (not while the race was on) - it's just a standard single carriageway, 2-lane road, same as the roads used in Over The Hill.
When doing the 24hr race with VCCM a couple of weeks ago, I was amazed how polite they were when I came up to pass; the back markers were almost falling over themselves to get out of the way. If someone's going to behave badly then they have just as much opportunity to do so on any track.
When doing the 24hr race with VCCM a couple of weeks ago, I was amazed how polite they were when I came up to pass; the back markers were almost falling over themselves to get out of the way. If someone's going to behave badly then they have just as much opportunity to do so on any track.
challenger001 said:
I'm sorry, I don't recall Circuit De La Sarthe being only two cars wide at every section. There needs to be areas to pass slower cars anyway. The reason I'm being aggressive is because I had some great races with VCCM on Sunday night but most of them were on fairly open tracks such as Olympic Grand Prix and Los Santos GP full version. Narrow mountain road racing does not make for fun with large grids and bad drivers with way too much opinion of themselves (of which both our crews are guilty) will only make it frustrating, not fun.
I think you need to chill out. Sorry guys, I think I just got a little carried away and stressed. I didn't mean to be quite so brusque. I did the sensible thing and ended up doing some races and talking it over with DJ rather than yelling on the internet, I think it's just a difference of driving styles that led to our clash. Hope nobody's angry with me.
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