Destiny (PS4)

[Moog72]

Speckle said:

I watched the Planet Destiny video and he said they cleared the level 32 game in about 45 minutes. The higher levels will obviously take longer but, so did both raids when we first attempted them. I think if you wipe, you restart that particular room, not the whole thing (which would suck!) which makes sense as each room is basically a checkpoint and gives you unique rewards.

45 mins? That's not too bad and I do hope you just restart the room in the event of a team wipe and it would make sense for that to be the case. At least with the raids even though they took ages at the beginning there are CPs along the way that meant you could take a break and come back to it if someone needed to drop for example. Not the case for PoE, either complete it or lose your progress.

Forgot to say that level 28 PoE has matchmaking, whereas the higher levels don't so in theory you could gave a crack at those solo should you feel so inclined

[Speckle]

youngsyr said:

I read that you have to complete the entire sequence (5/6 rooms) to get any rewards?

I read once you kill the final boss, you drop down into a "treasure room" with 3 chests, which give you the gear. So, no finish, no gear.

You may be right about the rewards (and possibly checkpoints too), I only watched a single 7 minute video and was only half listening. I am pretty certain though that they said a wipe isn't a total restart.

[Digitalize]

Wipe goes back to the start of the round you're on, not the entire challenge.

No rewards until the very end, no checkpoints.

This will stop CP sharing etc, meaning the reward has to be earned.

[Flat-out]

Horde mode F**k yeah!

Suggest you lot upgrade your Crest of Alpha Lupis as the perk will be very helpful in both ToO and PoE. As a reminder, it allows for quicker revives when both reviving and being revived. I believe it is available for all classes or at least Hunters and Titans.

Stoked!

[youngsyr]

Flat-out said:

Horde mode F**k yeah!

Suggest you lot upgrade your Crest of Alpha Lupis as the perk will be very helpful in both ToO and PoE. As a reminder, it allows for quicker revives when both reviving and being revived. I believe it is available for all classes or at least Hunters and Titans.

Stoked!

Been thinking about this - I reckon for Titans Helm of Saint-14 will reign supreme, combined with either armour of light or Blessing of light it will allow the entire fire team to get some respite from both firepower and melees at key moments/locations.

For Hunter, I reckon Golden Gun with Achlyophage Symbiote helm will be best with Combustion perk - simply for producing Orbs for teammates and wiping out hordes.

For Warlocks Resurrection will continue to be a must as an insurance policy, but Sunsinger doesn't work particularly well with the exotic armour perks, probably Light Beyond Nemesis helm is best (revive and be revived faster, generate more orbs, gain health when pick up orbs).

Weapon wise, I'll be upgrading Vex Mythoclast, Hawkmoon, Thorn, Icebreaker, Patience & Time, Truth (and Gjallarhorn, if I had it!) day 1.

After that, once I've got some Etheric light, Vision of Confluence, Fatebringer, Praedyth's Revenge, two of my Efrideet's Spears and Jolder's Hammers will be priorities for the upgrade.

[Moog72]

Flat-out said:

Suggest you lot upgrade your Crest of Alpha Lupis ....

I hadn't paid much attention to it, but I've recently been upgrading this as "something to upgrade" not really intending to use it as I didn't have a raid helmet to keep me at 32. That was until the impromptu Crota raid today which netted me just that Another first, I didn't die or get lost in the Abyss or walk backwards into a hole

So a few more armour combinations have now opened up rather than having to run an exotic helmet which is nice and I knew that I should have bought Ruin Wings from Xur last week

[youngsyr]

Moog72 said:

Flat-out said:

Suggest you lot upgrade your Crest of Alpha Lupis ....

I hadn't paid much attention to it, but I've recently been upgrading this as "something to upgrade" not really intending to use it as I didn't have a raid helmet to keep me at 32. That was until the impromptu Crota raid today which netted me just that Another first, I didn't die or get lost in the Abyss or walk backwards into a hole

So a few more armour combinations have now opened up rather than having to run an exotic helmet which is nice and I knew that I should have bought Ruin Wings from Xur last week

Ruin Wings are almost pointless, now that you can get 5x Heavy Ammo Synths for just 1 Strange Coin, aren't they?

I have them and have never used them - I much prefer the helmet perks, or at a push Armamentarium.

[Moog72]

youngsyr said:

Ruin Wings are almost pointless, now that you can get 5x Heavy Ammo Synths for just 1 Strange Coin, aren't they?

I have them and have never used them - I much prefer the helmet perks, or at a push Armamentarium.

When you put it like that then you are probably right. I guess I liked the idea of increased heavy drops, but it would be hard to give up having the blinding bubble admittedly. In any case, the raid boots give increased heavy capacity too (8 rockets with Truth)

Cheers, you've just saved me 13 SCs that I'll partially spend on stocking up on synths instead come tomorrow morning

[Speckle]

Yeah but ammo synths have a 5 minute cooldown, pickups don't. Not sure what the score will be with heavy ammo drops though, as the video I saw had a heavy ammo location as per the crucible in one of the rooms. Unlikely that will be in addition to heavy ammo being dropped by enemies (it may be specific to just the one room mind you.)

I'm not going to over-think it though. I'm just going to have a crack at it with my favourite weapons/armour and see how I get on

[lovechild]

I watched about 15 minutes, then turned it off for the following reasons:

-Hyperactive, annoying bald wker.

-"The greater the risk, the greater the reward".

-Hyperactive, annoying bald wker.

-"Always new things to do in Destiny".

-Hyperactive, annoying bald wker.

-People running around shooting stuff.

Unless I'm missing the point, I really don't see how ToO and PoE are anything other than ever so slightly different versions of what we've being doing for the last 7 months in Crucible and Strikes..........

......... and yes Singh, you're right. Shane is ridiculous

[lady topaz]

Sorry to interrupt but I need help.

I've been level 24 for ages, I'm doing every mission I can.

Nothing I do gets more light to go forward. I feel I am missing something obvious. Also clueless what to do with all the crap I am collecting. Googled but thought the PH experienced players might be more instructive.

Also I've found that when joining others in a challenge, my firepower is woeful. My stats are for example 20 kills to others 100 plus.

I have the enthusiasm but not the talent or weapons to be a major contributor.

Should I give up?

[Clarkey2110]

Lady, stick at the vanguard strikes, and collect the marks, once you have enough you can purchase vanguard armour, 75 marks for each part, helmet is double. Grab a couple of bits of that and then you'll soon be jumping up levels!

[youngsyr]

lady topaz said:

Sorry to interrupt but I need help.

I've been level 24 for ages, I'm doing every mission I can.

Nothing I do gets more light to go forward. I feel I am missing something obvious. Also clueless what to do with all the crap I am collecting. Googled but thought the PH experienced players might be more instructive.

Also I've found that when joining others in a challenge, my firepower is woeful. My stats are for example 20 kills to others 100 plus.

I have the enthusiasm but not the talent or weapons to be a major contributor.

Should I give up?

You should buy a chest, gloves and Legs from the vendors in the tower and level them up. Then buy an exotic helmet from Xur when he's in the tower at the weekend.

Then join us for Raids, weekly and Night fall and you'll be a level 32 bad ass in no time!

[CarbonViper]

You need to look at your armor for its "Light Level"

The maximum a piece of armor can have currently is 36, you need 4 pieces of armor with light level 30 to each level 30.
If you looking to get to level 32 you will need raid armor which has the highest light level.

Blue "rare" gear I think can have a maximum of 24 light per piece which if I'm not mistaken will take you to level 28 and allow you to participate in Nightfalls & rads for better gear.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/yBbl6N2skvM/maxresdefault.jp...

Should give you an idea of what I mean. Hope this helps.

Also get some of us on your friends list, will be more than happy to help you out.

[Digitalize]

lovechild said:

I watched about 15 minutes, then turned it off for the following reasons:

-Hyperactive, annoying bald wker.

-"The greater the risk, the greater the reward".

-Hyperactive, annoying bald wker.

-"Always new things to do in Destiny".

-Hyperactive, annoying bald wker.

-People running around shooting stuff.

Unless I'm missing the point, I really don't see how ToO and PoE are anything other than ever so slightly different versions of what we've being doing for the last 7 months in Crucible and Strikes..........

......... and yes Singh, you're right. Shane is ridiculous

Yes he was annoying, and it was frustrating watching them fail, however.

ToO is a new game mode, new structure, new rewards. It is crucible, just a new mode of it, I don't see how it can be any different whilst being part of Destiny.

PoE is in completely new areas, with again a new structure, new rewards again, and new challenges, designed to be much more hectic. It's less like a raid/strike as there's no linear progression through an area, and more 'game' like.

I'm sorry but it just feels like you're hell bent on not liking the new content. Would you have rathered a new raid? Or would that just have been 'ever so slightly different versions of what we've been doing for the last 7 months'?

Perhaps you're the only person expecting House of Wolves becoming a 2D puzzle game, since you're so surprised the content is similar to what's already there.

Yes I was in the mood for a rant! Haha

[lovechild]

"Hell bent?" Hardly, we're discussing a game on a forum. The above is my opinion, albeit in a critical tongue in cheek manner. I've said before that I hope it is good (why wouldn't I?) and not write it off until I've tried it.

"Surprised?" I'm glad you're here to inform me what my reaction is. I'm not in the slightest bit surprised.

"The only person?" Again, hardly. The internet is full of indignant people who think that Bungie owes them something and that "they're quitting" for such and such reason. I've said time and again that I've got my monies worth, and had plenty of fun and met some terrific people. They offered a product, I bought it and have been pleased with it. I certainly won't lose any sleep, as and when I no longer want to invest in it.

I played some Skirmish today, how is it that different from ToO? (Genuine question. I know maps/guns etc, but the mode itself?)

PoE appears to be running around shooting stuff. Raids offer an extra element in that there are puzzles and mechanics to work out. (again genuine question. Are there different elemements to PoE? I've not studied the promo stuff).

The game has lasted as long as it has for me due to the people I play with. Without that element, how many other games would you repeat the same missions over and over again? and that's what this new content feels like to me. An enjoyable experience because of the company, not on the merit of the content itself.

You seem to be quite defensive and take this far more seriously than me. I'm sure (hope!!) that anyone who's played with me will say that having fun is more important to me than the outcome.

I respect the rant and the haha at the end, and maybe I'm feeling a bit sensitive tonight, but you're post comes across as quite condescending. I neither expect, nor appreciate it.

[Digitalize]

I'm sure we're both being OTT in our non serious responses. My original rant was just because I started it and got in to it, and I haven't had one in a while!

Raids haven't really had puzzle elements in, just they don't tell you what to do, and once you know, thats it. They literally repeat, not even things like the oracles are random.

PoE throws in new objectives whilst you play, new modifiers etc, it's seemingly a lot more random each time, although I imagine after a few weeks it will be back to the same structure as before.

Other than the fact you can revive people in Skirmish (if it's the game mode I'm thinking of) and 3 player, ToO isn't at all similar. ToO is about killing all of the enemy team at once, or as an overtime feature capturing a point, even that's aimed at getting everyone in to one place and killed. It's then based on rounds, and then further than that, based on a win/loss ratio to progress through the rewards.

[lovechild]

lady topaz said:

Sorry to interrupt but I need help.

I've been level 24 for ages, I'm doing every mission I can.

Nothing I do gets more light to go forward. I feel I am missing something obvious. Also clueless what to do with all the crap I am collecting. Googled but thought the PH experienced players might be more instructive.

Also I've found that when joining others in a challenge, my firepower is woeful. My stats are for example 20 kills to others 100 plus.

I have the enthusiasm but not the talent or weapons to be a major contributor.

Should I give up?

I suspect you may be missing something if you're not progressing.

Do as Youngsy and Carbon have suggested. Get an exotic helmet, vendor arms, legs and chest, then join us for raids/weeklies. I think the aforementioned armour, unlevelled, gets you to light level 27 which is enough to be carried through a raid.

There's a list of players further back in the thread. Add people.

ETA: The most recent list is on page 1. Youngsy stuck it at the front.

Edited by lovechild on Thursday 7th May 22:29

[lovechild]

Digitalize said:

I'm sure we're both being OTT in our non serious responses. My original rant was just because I started it and got in to it, and I haven't had one in a while!

Raids haven't really had puzzle elements in, just they don't tell you what to do, and once you know, thats it. They literally repeat, not even things like the oracles are random.

PoE throws in new objectives whilst you play, new modifiers etc, it's seemingly a lot more random each time, although I imagine after a few weeks it will be back to the same structure as before.

Other than the fact you can revive people in Skirmish (if it's the game mode I'm thinking of) and 3 player, ToO isn't at all similar. ToO is about killing all of the enemy team at once, or as an overtime feature capturing a point, even that's aimed at getting everyone in to one place and killed. It's then based on rounds, and then further than that, based on a win/loss ratio to progress through the rewards.

Fair enough. I like a rant as much as the next man. Stimpy (love you!!) calls me a "gobby ste" so we could probably argue the toss til the cows come home. Whislt our opinions differ, I do hope that your appraisal is more accurate than mine.

[Digitalize]

lovechild said:

Fair enough. I like a rant as much as the next man. Stimpy (love you!!) calls me a "gobby ste" so we could probably argue the toss til the cows come home. Whislt our opinions differ, I do hope that your appraisal is more accurate than mine.

I am hesitantly hopeful, the PoE did look great, much more fun and hectic looking than Raids. ToO is interesting too, especially as it's going to force us in to consistent groups of 3. Just annoying there's no 6 player end game content, and there's a large chance that one person in my group will be left out of activities etc.