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Mr Whippy said:
Wheras consoles with their fixed architecture allow lots of cool optimisations. Iirc the PS3 and the Battlefield 4 engine optimisations were amazing, where some unit of the hardware that was maybe designed to just render the frame buffers to view, was used for other tasks while the frames were being rendered to buffers in the first place! Or something along those lines.
Every bit of potential was used up. No idling transistors anywhere
During an Oculus keynote speech, John Carmack (Oculus chief technical officer) was quoted as saying that they still hadn't fully explored and exploited the PS3 to final potential. Just going to show there was even more to be discovered here if the newer generation hadn't arrived so soon.Every bit of potential was used up. No idling transistors anywhere
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8bit said:
PC games tend to work well by brute force
I guess that's the thing.Right up till the mhz boost from generation to generation fell off a cliff there was no impetus right through the chain, to optimise for multi-cpu or core.
I suppose that ended right around the time of the 2500K because even now there is little else any faster than that with 4 cores.
We'll get there with multi-core support.
Just a shame the latest greatest DX versions are now locked to Windows 10.
Roll on Windows 11.
graphics power scales nicely with multiple cores so thats how GPU's work, just a lot of identical silicon and fast memory access etc.
I have a clocked 2500k and every time I think about upgrades it just doesnt look worth it. If I spent big I could double my cpu performance, sometimes. its not worth it.
I have a clocked 2500k and every time I think about upgrades it just doesnt look worth it. If I spent big I could double my cpu performance, sometimes. its not worth it.
The bus will start to make a difference too - in some cases, the GPU is highly capable, but the CPU and bus cannot shovel dat at it fast enough, so GPU sits idle waiting. I've no idea where that point is though, suspect it was pre-haswell and earlier - as in, if you have 3rd gen CPU or above, you shouldn't hit it.
Cut and paste from another thread (because I didn't get an answer! Haha)
Apologies for the n00b question, but would a GTX 1070 with a I7-2600K 3400MHz 8MB Cache LGA1155 (cut and paste the CPU from amazon because I'd forgotten what I had!) seem like a silly combo?
The CPU must be getting on a bit now?
Looking towards VR without smashing the bank to bits.
Apologies for the n00b question, but would a GTX 1070 with a I7-2600K 3400MHz 8MB Cache LGA1155 (cut and paste the CPU from amazon because I'd forgotten what I had!) seem like a silly combo?
The CPU must be getting on a bit now?
Looking towards VR without smashing the bank to bits.
Older CPU you have "costs" you probably 20-30% in terms of CPU performance but as stated games these days don't really need to max out your CPU so its the GPU that counts. Yes a newer CPU would help but you might only see a few FPS gain for a heck of a lot of spend with new MOBO, RAM and CPU and perhaps cooler. £500 for a few FPS I reckon. At the end of the day I would try it and if you see any problems then look at upgrades but I suspect you will be ok for this first generation of VR.
Boring_Chris said:
Cut and paste from another thread (because I didn't get an answer! Haha)
Apologies for the n00b question, but would a GTX 1070 with a I7-2600K 3400MHz 8MB Cache LGA1155 (cut and paste the CPU from amazon because I'd forgotten what I had!) seem like a silly combo?
The CPU must be getting on a bit now?
Looking towards VR without smashing the bank to bits.
I'm running a i5-3570K with a 980ti and it has no problem running VR on a vive.Apologies for the n00b question, but would a GTX 1070 with a I7-2600K 3400MHz 8MB Cache LGA1155 (cut and paste the CPU from amazon because I'd forgotten what I had!) seem like a silly combo?
The CPU must be getting on a bit now?
Looking towards VR without smashing the bank to bits.
It also runs the VR fine on a DK2 on the same machine.
i5 2500k OC'd with a top-end GPU is probably still GPU bound in almost every game on current DX/OGL.
The real overhead for CPU is draw calls and they're optimised heavily by now any way because they've had to be, because of the way the rendering engines work.
Higher details settings and the like usually just up the demands on the GPU not the CPU.
Dave
The real overhead for CPU is draw calls and they're optimised heavily by now any way because they've had to be, because of the way the rendering engines work.
Higher details settings and the like usually just up the demands on the GPU not the CPU.
Dave
I just had the shipping soon notice, it was originally slated for July then end of July.
I've actually just cancelled it instead.
The main reason I wanted it was for iracing and I'm not doing much of that at the moment so I can wait for support on the Vive or use revive if that becomes possible. I still have my DK2 as well.
I'm going to spend the money on a new guitar.
I've actually just cancelled it instead.
The main reason I wanted it was for iracing and I'm not doing much of that at the moment so I can wait for support on the Vive or use revive if that becomes possible. I still have my DK2 as well.
I'm going to spend the money on a new guitar.
Microsoft E3 presentation for Minecraft and VR, they had John Carmack with (I think) a Samsung Gear VR headset https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtcZ4eF58zQ
... and people say the new Top Gear studio filming is stiff and scripted?! Don't cringe too much
... and people say the new Top Gear studio filming is stiff and scripted?! Don't cringe too much
Both Overclockers have stock (next day delivery) as do Currys now (collect in nearby store) - plus is cheaper than buying from HTC (no shipping costs).
TBH, I'd buy Vive if for no reason other than the fact that Oculus are locking things down to their platform, which is really s
tty practice. Not to mention the fact that, long term, I still reckon backing Valve is the better approach if you're a gamer.
TBH, I'd buy Vive if for no reason other than the fact that Oculus are locking things down to their platform, which is really s
tty practice. Not to mention the fact that, long term, I still reckon backing Valve is the better approach if you're a gamer.MattyB_ said:
Both Overclockers have stock (next day delivery) as do Currys now (collect in nearby store) - plus is cheaper than buying from HTC (no shipping costs).
So they do. I've just checked PCWorld (i.e Currys) and it's £689.99 and it looks like next day after 5pm for in store collection.You'd think then they would have one in the shop for you to have a look at.
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