New PC racing sim - Assetto Corsa
Discussion
trashbat said:
So, I have a problem with AC, and maybe any fellow G27 users can help me out.
When I bought the wheel, I went through a guide to set it up, and I thought I'd done it so that I get 900 degree steering. Then I thought no, that hasn't worked, and gave up - so I ended up with somewhat Playstation-esque direct steering.
However I find that occasionally if I do something like Alt-Tab out of the game and come back, the 900 degree setting is applied. At first this feels like really weak steering - like FF has been disabled or something - and I'd been assuming that AC had a bug where it stopped recognising the wheel properly, since if I restarted, it went away. Today I clocked it for what it actually is - the intended settings.
I think this is the Logitech profiler software finally noticing that AC is running, and doing its thing.
Anyone else had this?
I'm also now left with the problem that all my practice has been with 270 degrees or whatever, and although I seem to actually have finer & more nuanced control with 900, I crash a lot because I'm just not putting enough input in. I'm not sure which to stick with.
I have a G27, although I don't use the Logitech Profiler Software. When I bought the wheel, I went through a guide to set it up, and I thought I'd done it so that I get 900 degree steering. Then I thought no, that hasn't worked, and gave up - so I ended up with somewhat Playstation-esque direct steering.
However I find that occasionally if I do something like Alt-Tab out of the game and come back, the 900 degree setting is applied. At first this feels like really weak steering - like FF has been disabled or something - and I'd been assuming that AC had a bug where it stopped recognising the wheel properly, since if I restarted, it went away. Today I clocked it for what it actually is - the intended settings.
I think this is the Logitech profiler software finally noticing that AC is running, and doing its thing.
Anyone else had this?
I'm also now left with the problem that all my practice has been with 270 degrees or whatever, and although I seem to actually have finer & more nuanced control with 900, I crash a lot because I'm just not putting enough input in. I'm not sure which to stick with.
Edited by trashbat on Monday 16th March 21:02
To change the steering angle:
1) I ensure that Assetto Corsa is not running (e.g. exit if required)
2) I go to Windows 'Set up USB Game Controllers' and set the desired steering angle.
3) I start Assetto Corsa, and go to the control settings and alter the steering angle to the value set at step 2.
A tip that helps with 2 & 3 is to use the arrow keys on the keyboard to fine tune the angle.
I've never had a problem doing the above, so beyond that I can't help I'm afraid.
I have a routine.
Set Windows game wheel steering rotation.
Set AC windows steering rotation make sure it is the same.
Any change to in-game rotation must be matched by logitech software or window control panel game controller settings.
Then I always go to controller options, and press pedals, turn wheel every time I start the game.
Set Windows game wheel steering rotation.
Set AC windows steering rotation make sure it is the same.
Any change to in-game rotation must be matched by logitech software or window control panel game controller settings.
Then I always go to controller options, and press pedals, turn wheel every time I start the game.
I just have windows game controller set at 900 and that's it.
Set specific lock needed, if needed in game.
But I'm fairly certain AC just uses car lock specified under 900deg as per windows setting.
Ie jump in 200deg steering car and it works fine with win and AC set at 900, just at 100deg lock each way further input does nothing and ff stays constant.
All windows lock reduction does is add a force block which kinda is too weak anyway. Not like old DFP with solid 180/900 locks.
Really AC should manage everything via drivers and in game profile. Logitech profiler is more to customise crap games that have horrible default controls limitations like TDU2!
Dave
Set specific lock needed, if needed in game.
But I'm fairly certain AC just uses car lock specified under 900deg as per windows setting.
Ie jump in 200deg steering car and it works fine with win and AC set at 900, just at 100deg lock each way further input does nothing and ff stays constant.
All windows lock reduction does is add a force block which kinda is too weak anyway. Not like old DFP with solid 180/900 locks.
Really AC should manage everything via drivers and in game profile. Logitech profiler is more to customise crap games that have horrible default controls limitations like TDU2!
Dave
I think possibly I've sorted it with a permanent profile, rather than per-game ones. Time will tell.
I went back to my 'basic training' routine with Vallelunga Club & the Abarth 500, and actually having that much more control means I can do quite a lot more with the car. I think I'll persist, although fast bends on the Ring seem much harder work now.
I went back to my 'basic training' routine with Vallelunga Club & the Abarth 500, and actually having that much more control means I can do quite a lot more with the car. I think I'll persist, although fast bends on the Ring seem much harder work now.
trooperiziz said:
Is it possible to modify the power output of a car? I'm off to the ring in a Ford Puma in a few weeks, and i'd like to practice 
It'd be good if I could drop the power of the 500 SS down to Puma levels to get a similar experience.
Not as far as I know without creating a new 'mod'/car, because you could modify it the other way and cheat. Like you, I'd like to modify the Formula Arbarth to be more like the cars I race.It'd be good if I could drop the power of the 500 SS down to Puma levels to get a similar experience.
The one thing you can do is if a car's turbocharged (which I don't think the 500SS is?.. I've never driven it, but I'm guessing..) you can alter the boost with the number keys. I found this out after trying in vain to chase someone on the PH AC Time Trial, to the point where I suspected him of cheating and asked to see a replay of his lap - the video and a stopwatch confirmed that his car had more power, but it was actually completely legal - I just needed to press '0' on my keyboard to turn up the boost to 100%
I had no idea at all!RobM77 said:
trooperiziz said:
Is it possible to modify the power output of a car? I'm off to the ring in a Ford Puma in a few weeks, and i'd like to practice
It'd be good if I could drop the power of the 500 SS down to Puma levels to get a similar experience.
Not as far as I know without creating a new 'mod'/car, because you could modify it the other way and cheat. Like you, I'd like to modify the Formula Arbarth to be more like the cars I race.It'd be good if I could drop the power of the 500 SS down to Puma levels to get a similar experience.
The one thing you can do is if a car's turbocharged (which I don't think the 500SS is?.. I've never driven it, but I'm guessing..) you can alter the boost with the number keys. I found this out after trying in vain to chase someone on the PH AC Time Trial, to the point where I suspected him of cheating and asked to see a replay of his lap - the video and a stopwatch confirmed that his car had more power, but it was actually completely legal - I just needed to press '0' on my keyboard to turn up the boost to 100%
I had no idea at all!RobM77 said:
trooperiziz said:
Is it possible to modify the power output of a car? I'm off to the ring in a Ford Puma in a few weeks, and i'd like to practice
It'd be good if I could drop the power of the 500 SS down to Puma levels to get a similar experience.
Not as far as I know without creating a new 'mod'/car, because you could modify it the other way and cheat. Like you, I'd like to modify the Formula Arbarth to be more like the cars I race.It'd be good if I could drop the power of the 500 SS down to Puma levels to get a similar experience.
The one thing you can do is if a car's turbocharged (which I don't think the 500SS is?.. I've never driven it, but I'm guessing..) you can alter the boost with the number keys. I found this out after trying in vain to chase someone on the PH AC Time Trial, to the point where I suspected him of cheating and asked to see a replay of his lap - the video and a stopwatch confirmed that his car had more power, but it was actually completely legal - I just needed to press '0' on my keyboard to turn up the boost to 100%
I had no idea at all!
Asterix said:
RobM77 said:
trooperiziz said:
Is it possible to modify the power output of a car? I'm off to the ring in a Ford Puma in a few weeks, and i'd like to practice
It'd be good if I could drop the power of the 500 SS down to Puma levels to get a similar experience.
Not as far as I know without creating a new 'mod'/car, because you could modify it the other way and cheat. Like you, I'd like to modify the Formula Arbarth to be more like the cars I race.It'd be good if I could drop the power of the 500 SS down to Puma levels to get a similar experience.
The one thing you can do is if a car's turbocharged (which I don't think the 500SS is?.. I've never driven it, but I'm guessing..) you can alter the boost with the number keys. I found this out after trying in vain to chase someone on the PH AC Time Trial, to the point where I suspected him of cheating and asked to see a replay of his lap - the video and a stopwatch confirmed that his car had more power, but it was actually completely legal - I just needed to press '0' on my keyboard to turn up the boost to 100%
I had no idea at all!In case anyone is interested, I recorded a ring lap on the Oculus Rift tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYFz7lcHpBg
Abarth 500 SS, Pro mode, manual gears. G27 wheel.
If you're wondering about the Oculus Rift, you can clearly see the poor resolution of the rift in this, but it's actually slightly better in real life, as this is only the feed to one eye. As the feed to the other eye is slightly different, it's looks a bit better in the rift and you can see a bit more detail resolution wise, however that extra detail is killed by the screendoor which the rift introduces, so this video is actually pretty close to what the detail actually feels like in the rift I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYFz7lcHpBg
Abarth 500 SS, Pro mode, manual gears. G27 wheel.
If you're wondering about the Oculus Rift, you can clearly see the poor resolution of the rift in this, but it's actually slightly better in real life, as this is only the feed to one eye. As the feed to the other eye is slightly different, it's looks a bit better in the rift and you can see a bit more detail resolution wise, however that extra detail is killed by the screendoor which the rift introduces, so this video is actually pretty close to what the detail actually feels like in the rift I think.
trooperiziz said:
In case anyone is interested, I recorded a ring lap on the Oculus Rift tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYFz7lcHpBg
Abarth 500 SS, Pro mode, manual gears. G27 wheel.
If you're wondering about the Oculus Rift, you can clearly see the poor resolution of the rift in this, but it's actually slightly better in real life, as this is only the feed to one eye. As the feed to the other eye is slightly different, it's looks a bit better in the rift and you can see a bit more detail resolution wise, however that extra detail is killed by the screendoor which the rift introduces, so this video is actually pretty close to what the detail actually feels like in the rift I think.
I've never tried an OR. Does it make you feel giddy at all?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYFz7lcHpBg
Abarth 500 SS, Pro mode, manual gears. G27 wheel.
If you're wondering about the Oculus Rift, you can clearly see the poor resolution of the rift in this, but it's actually slightly better in real life, as this is only the feed to one eye. As the feed to the other eye is slightly different, it's looks a bit better in the rift and you can see a bit more detail resolution wise, however that extra detail is killed by the screendoor which the rift introduces, so this video is actually pretty close to what the detail actually feels like in the rift I think.
Yes. It did for me. At first anyway, I was on the verge of giving up and it suddenly just went away. I now love it.
I would say that resolution is pretty close to what I experience. It's not the resolution so much as the immersion that makes it the brilliant experience it is. The only problem that I had transitioning to the rift was that some of my more obscure brake points needed to be reassessed as I couldn't see them at 150mph.
I would say that resolution is pretty close to what I experience. It's not the resolution so much as the immersion that makes it the brilliant experience it is. The only problem that I had transitioning to the rift was that some of my more obscure brake points needed to be reassessed as I couldn't see them at 150mph.
Bullett said:
Yes. It did for me. At first anyway, I was on the verge of giving up and it suddenly just went away. I now love it.
I would say that resolution is pretty close to what I experience. It's not the resolution so much as the immersion that makes it the brilliant experience it is. The only problem that I had transitioning to the rift was that some of my more obscure brake points needed to be reassessed as I couldn't see them at 150mph.
Yes, that's realistic. I would say that resolution is pretty close to what I experience. It's not the resolution so much as the immersion that makes it the brilliant experience it is. The only problem that I had transitioning to the rift was that some of my more obscure brake points needed to be reassessed as I couldn't see them at 150mph.
Single seaters actually shake about so much at speed that it's normal to stay a metre from the edge of the track and move out there to start each corner - if you watch the F1, or at least last time I actually went to a GP, you can see it quite clearly.I don't think I'd get on with OR sadly
I get very giddy very easily and I can't even play some sims because of it. I play AC in 30 minute spurts.RobM77 said:
I don't think I'd get on with OR sadly I get very giddy very easily and I can't even play some sims because of it. I play AC in 30 minute spurts.
Have you tried playing with the FOV? That can make quite a big difference. I get very giddy very easily and I can't even play some sims because of it. I play AC in 30 minute spurts.I find AC physically tiring, probably primarily because of the ergonomics of my setup, but also because of the concentration & attention, so I too play it in small bursts.
RobM77 said:
trooperiziz said:
In case anyone is interested, I recorded a ring lap on the Oculus Rift tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYFz7lcHpBg
Abarth 500 SS, Pro mode, manual gears. G27 wheel.
If you're wondering about the Oculus Rift, you can clearly see the poor resolution of the rift in this, but it's actually slightly better in real life, as this is only the feed to one eye. As the feed to the other eye is slightly different, it's looks a bit better in the rift and you can see a bit more detail resolution wise, however that extra detail is killed by the screendoor which the rift introduces, so this video is actually pretty close to what the detail actually feels like in the rift I think.
I've never tried an OR. Does it make you feel giddy at all?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYFz7lcHpBg
Abarth 500 SS, Pro mode, manual gears. G27 wheel.
If you're wondering about the Oculus Rift, you can clearly see the poor resolution of the rift in this, but it's actually slightly better in real life, as this is only the feed to one eye. As the feed to the other eye is slightly different, it's looks a bit better in the rift and you can see a bit more detail resolution wise, however that extra detail is killed by the screendoor which the rift introduces, so this video is actually pretty close to what the detail actually feels like in the rift I think.
In AC I can do about 20 minutes at a time now, before I start to feel a bit weird and it's best to stop. In Elite I can easily do a couple of hours without an issue. It's very dependant on how powerful your graphics card is and how smooth you can make it, I find, and how well the devs have adapted it for the Rift. Buying a new graphics card helped a lot.
I haven't played around with the graphics settings in AC specifically for the rift though, so i'm sure I could make it a lot easier to live with, but it's such a faff to get working with AC these days, that I don't use it that much to make the effort.
trashbat said:
ave you tried playing with the FOV? That can make quite a big difference.
I find AC physically tiring, probably primarily because of the ergonomics of my setup, but also because of the concentration & attention, so I too play it in small bursts.
I'm running three widescreen 24" monitors, so that may have something to do with it I find AC physically tiring, probably primarily because of the ergonomics of my setup, but also because of the concentration & attention, so I too play it in small bursts.
I don't mind 30 minute stints though, I have a short attention span anyway!Bullett said:
I don't know where you are in Berkshire but I'm in Sandhurst and you are welcome to pop round and try my Rift out if you want.
I'm between Newbury and Hungerford. I'd love to try it, thank you. I'm really busy at the moment with two jobs and an old house to renovate, but I'll PM you in the next few weeks if that's ok?Gassing Station | Video Games | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff