Xbox one GTA V.....is it just me?

[Digby]

I was a bit late to the next-gen console party as nothing really interested me, but I picked up a second hand console with a few games quite cheap and after enjoying a bit of GTA on the 360, I thought I would see how it compared..

I think having a reasonable spec PC has ruined me as I found it horrible to play.Sure, it's more polished (not amazingly so mind you) but it seems to be running at such a low frame rate that the first person mode and interior view driving were laughably bad.Even standing on the spot in third person view and spinning the camera made me feel like I was using a 5+ year old PC.


If anyone has a decent PC but is bored of waiting for that version to be released and is tempted to get a next-gen console just for this game, don't do it.I'm not sure what it's stuck at (30 fps or less?) but it is NOT the way to experience a game like this.

Edited by Digby on Sunday 15th March 01:44

[Digby]

It's not out yet, but no wonder so many people have waited! They really pushed the 360 with GTA so I was expecting silky smooth gameplay on a next-gen console.Fortunately for me, it just came with the bundle so I didn't buy the console to play it.

[Digby]

But apparently it runs just as badly on the PS4? It's hardly next-gen if they have to drop below 60 fps on anything! The difference between a 30 fps game and a 60+ fps game is monumental.

[Digby]

p1stonhead said:

Really? Monumental?

http://youtu.be/QksH65BmjK4

A perfect example! Look at the tops of the trees.Jerky as hell at 30 fps.Once you get a few cars on the track and need to make quick adjustments with steering etc, the difference in control and how 'real' it all feels is night and day.Nothing displays the need for a higher fps rate more than a racing game.They are utterly transformed in terms of playability at a higher frame rate.

I have always loved my consoles (owned them all), so this isn't a console bashing session, but I was pretty disappointed with what I saw.Apparently most titles don't run at 1080p, either and most never will!

[Digby]

Also I think Youtube vids are locked to 30 fps more or less, so you don't get a true representation of what 60 fps looks like in the above video.Everything changes at those rates.Inputs you make, reaction times, smoothness, realism....everything.

60 fps and 1080p seemed to be the banded about figures for next-gen consoles and it now turns out not to be the case.I know GTA is all about having a laugh etc, but it would still be a far better experience at a higher frame rate.I would rather they had left it looking exactly like the 360 version and used the extra horses to bump said frame rate.30 fps should be a thing of the past.As gaming experiences go, it's a huge backward step.

[Digby]

It's not just about what you see, it's about how it feels.Anyone saying it won't make much difference, isn't much of a gamer I'm afraid.You sit very much in the 'that will do' camp.For those like myself, it won't do.It is horrible.It is old.We were promised so much more and they don't seem to be delivering.There is nothing next gen about 30 fps.If you could choose the option after trying both, you would never EVER go back to 30 fps.

Btw, GTA was quite an achievement for a console, I agree, on the Xbox 360! As for the PC cost debate, my machine is quite old now.I run SLi and the cards are probably worth £100 each.The rest needed to make them work probably £200 to £300.It's not far off the price of a console, yet it still runs rings around the Xbox one.

60 vs 30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n00qUDL0Cxg


https://frames-per-second.appspot.com/

As for youtube and 60 fps, do you just mean you select HD? If you right click and show the properties, most HD vids I watch rarely go above 40 fps.

There is also a push towards higher frame rates in cinema etc.The same reasons apply and the results are just as impressive.

http://player.vimeo.com/video/40316231

As I say, I'm not bashing console gaming as I have loved almost every moment of my voyage and imported almost all of them to get them first (cost me a fortune, too!) , but this isn't next-gen.

[Digby]

p1stonhead said:

PC is always ahead of consoles by a few years depending on what you wanna spend.

It wasn't always.Consoles showed up the PC's for a time.3DFX changed that for most.

Anyway, next-gen, current gen, call it what you like, they made some big promises and can't deliver them all.Even the Playstation 1 from 20 years ago had some 60 fps games

[Digby]

At least it delivered what it promised, huh? But then if it hadn't, there would obviously have been those ready to defend its shortcomings regardless.

[Digby]

I play it on a £700 TV if it helps?

[Digby]

I only kept mentioning 60 fps because we were told numerous times this would be the case on these consoles.That to me is the absolute minimum to transform the playability, feel and look of a game (especially fpshooters and racers).I think Forza 5 is 60 fps and doing one lap of a track alone on that compared to any other 30 fps racer would show you the difference.

It's true I have been used to 100+ FPS for probably a decade or more on the PC, but I would have been happy with a solid 60 on the latest consoles.Even certain game manufacturers led us on with promises of 1080p and 60 fps.Then we ended up with 792p and 30 fps! That to me is like dropping your computers refresh rate to 60hz or less (try it and drag some windows around - it's horrid!)

Roll on the next next-gen..

[Digby]

So it seems

I'm using Firefox, so I assume that's why I don't see the 60 fps option on youtube.I just love all the tracking and advert blocking freebies you can install with it.I don't see adverts anywhere now and that was especially annoying on youtube!