Yellow SEAC @ Barons - sold £6,600!
Discussion
I may be way off the mark here (as usual)...but i spoke to Mervin Larner the other day about something unrelated....in the course of which ,we got our wires crossed and he confirmed to me that plate D....YLP WAS a SEAC..... It looks as though someone else may have been after confirmation of chassis/engine number combo on 'possibly' this 'SEAC'. I only say possibly cos' Mervin must have thought i was someone else and thought i was after this particular SEAC confirmation....and also, i cannot be absolutely sure of the plate he read back to me( before i changed the subject).......but i am almost sure it was D....YLP.
Food for thought?
Could this strange fish be a 'real' SEAC according to TVR build?
Only those with the chassis/engine number available to check can confirm......
Remember it's Halloween soon and all sorts of monsters come out of the darkness!
Food for thought?
Could this strange fish be a 'real' SEAC according to TVR build?
Only those with the chassis/engine number available to check can confirm......
Remember it's Halloween soon and all sorts of monsters come out of the darkness!
Some lovely theories are flying around but there is no hiding form the fact that it's a 350i. Closest to that a 390SE or 420SE? Nope it has the norrower and taller 205/60 tyres from the 350 as well as 350 wheels. 350 wheels on a 390/420 wouldn't fill the wheel arches. As for the body well, if someone stuck 420SEAC on the side of a V8S would you believe them? It would have the V8 engine and 205/60 tyres, sure its a different body to a SEAC but so is this yellow job.
Put on a front bumper, rip off those daft indicators, remove the SEAC bading and you got one very bright Big Bad Wedge but you have to agree with Mungo that the SEAC is a very special TVR and this is not one of them.
Put on a front bumper, rip off those daft indicators, remove the SEAC bading and you got one very bright Big Bad Wedge but you have to agree with Mungo that the SEAC is a very special TVR and this is not one of them.
father ted said:
I may be way off the mark here (as usual)...but i spoke to Mervin Larner the other day about something unrelated....in the course of which ,we got our wires crossed and he confirmed to me that plate D....YLP WAS a SEAC..... It looks as though someone else may have been after confirmation of chassis/engine number combo on 'possibly' this 'SEAC'. I only say possibly cos' Mervin must have thought i was someone else and thought i was after this particular SEAC confirmation....and also, i cannot be absolutely sure of the plate he read back to me( before i changed the subject).......but i am almost sure it was D....YLP.
Food for thought?
Could this strange fish be a 'real' SEAC according to TVR build?
Only those with the chassis/engine number available to check can confirm......
Remember it's Halloween soon and all sorts of monsters come out of the darkness!
There are 2 D... YLP plated cars that i know of that are genuine SEACs, IMO, if it was ordered as a SEAC but changed / built as a regular body style by the factory, would make it the car it ended up as and not what the buyer first intended to buy, otherwise there could be a few Chimaeras around that are actually Griffiths
Anyway the person only paid SE money, so hopefully nobody has been robbed.
Tim
jvaughan said:
Dont you just love that interiour too ?
I thought SEAC's had the funny handbrake that went under the dash, not the real thing ....
what can I add to this already mature thread ...
Sick colour .. Sick front lights, Sick interiour, sick the person that is trying to flog this as a SEAC.
Jason. I take great exception to your colour remark. If we ever meet I will give you some ....... Ahh ... Just seen your picture in your profile ... I'll let you off this time then ....
>> Edited by nick heppinstall on Monday 27th October 07:41
This is what a yellow 420SEAC should look like.
(SEAC No.14 though it was originally azure blue & changed colour after the previous owner bumped it)
Nick I agree on the colour - tis nice even if not original.
www.fotango.com/p/eba00372382f00000001.jpg
(SEAC No.14 though it was originally azure blue & changed colour after the previous owner bumped it)
Nick I agree on the colour - tis nice even if not original.
www.fotango.com/p/eba00372382f00000001.jpg
Just thought I'd add a note to avoid others duplicating requests to either party and also to help the new owner save some time if they ever wanted to know:
I have been in touch with the factory and also Carol @ the club - they are aware of this car (come up a few times over the years) and I hope to have some more info as soon as possible for those interested. At present Mervyn has stood down so there is no club registrar so please be patient, in the meantime if the new owner is out there and feeling sceptical at joining, please don't be - the more wedges the better.
I have been in touch with the factory and also Carol @ the club - they are aware of this car (come up a few times over the years) and I hope to have some more info as soon as possible for those interested. At present Mervyn has stood down so there is no club registrar so please be patient, in the meantime if the new owner is out there and feeling sceptical at joining, please don't be - the more wedges the better.
In response to the many comments regarding the TVR sold at Barons on the 21st October.
The comment suggesting that an auction house "Hides" behind a set of conditions is just plain silly. The Conditions of Sale are there to protect the buyer and the seller. In this case, the information, including chassis and engine number were displayed on our Website weeks ahead of the sale. The history file was available for any prospective buyers to inspect, prior to bidding, which included the letter from TVR quoted in the description.
We answered a number of e-mail enquiries before the sale.We have also attempted to clarify the history via the TVR factory.This is something were are not obliged to do. Unfortuntely the factory stated that they had no records of this vehicle.
If any of the commentators within these pages actaully attended the sale and read the catalogue or visited our Website and the excellent on line catalogue. It would be abundantly clear to them, that it is the BUYER's responibility to satisfy themselves that they are completely happy with a lot BEFORE they bid. People must take responsibility for their actions.
If in doubt Don't Bid!!!
LSG
Barons
The comment suggesting that an auction house "Hides" behind a set of conditions is just plain silly. The Conditions of Sale are there to protect the buyer and the seller. In this case, the information, including chassis and engine number were displayed on our Website weeks ahead of the sale. The history file was available for any prospective buyers to inspect, prior to bidding, which included the letter from TVR quoted in the description.
We answered a number of e-mail enquiries before the sale.We have also attempted to clarify the history via the TVR factory.This is something were are not obliged to do. Unfortuntely the factory stated that they had no records of this vehicle.
If any of the commentators within these pages actaully attended the sale and read the catalogue or visited our Website and the excellent on line catalogue. It would be abundantly clear to them, that it is the BUYER's responibility to satisfy themselves that they are completely happy with a lot BEFORE they bid. People must take responsibility for their actions.
If in doubt Don't Bid!!!
LSG
Barons
Just a quick question though, - if I read the Barons post correctly they are saying that they tried to contact TVR about the car, but they couldn't get any info. If that the case, what does the "letter from TVR that says it's a SEAC" say that was mentioned in the description?
Surely a contradiction here?
Andy 400se
Surely a contradiction here?
Andy 400se
Surely Barons have a responsibility to describe the lots accurately and if they have any doubts, and it would appear that they did have doubts they could have sought the advice of specialists.
I think if you are going to charge both buyer and seller commision then you have an obligation to both to get your facts right or atleast say you are not sure in your description.
Describing it as a SEAC is I feel misleading and quoting conditions of sale chapter and verse is hiding from the truth. With such a rare car it is not rocket science to research the difference. if I were the buyer I would feel deceived.
If the car had been sold at a general sale then the seller could have been excused for not knowing but to trade as a specialist Classic car auction house and then say you couldn't tell the difference cannot inspire future buyers with confidence
I think if you are going to charge both buyer and seller commision then you have an obligation to both to get your facts right or atleast say you are not sure in your description.
Describing it as a SEAC is I feel misleading and quoting conditions of sale chapter and verse is hiding from the truth. With such a rare car it is not rocket science to research the difference. if I were the buyer I would feel deceived.
If the car had been sold at a general sale then the seller could have been excused for not knowing but to trade as a specialist Classic car auction house and then say you couldn't tell the difference cannot inspire future buyers with confidence
Although Barons have only just become a member of Pistonheads they obviously knew of its existence before auctioning this car and were probably frequent visitors. How come everyone on here can tell the difference when they cant, a simple search would have told them all they needed to know and they would still have credibility( and they guy who bought the "SEAC" would probably still have his money)
nick heppinstall said:
jvaughan said:
Dont you just love that interiour too ?
I thought SEAC's had the funny handbrake that went under the dash, not the real thing ....
what can I add to this already mature thread ...
Sick colour .. Sick front lights, Sick interiour, sick the person that is trying to flog this as a SEAC.
Jason. I take great exception to your colour remark. If we ever meet I will give you some ....... Ahh ... Just seen your picture in your profile ... I'll let you off this time then ....
>> Edited by nick heppinstall on Monday 27th October 07:41
You dont scare me. suggest any differences are settled the manly way...
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