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09:11 Reply with quote Edit Message Delete MessageHi friends of TVR,
this is my first step in the Forum. I have to apologise for my bad english, but I hope you all can understand what I want to say.
I tried to cantact Nickname "wedg1e" (Ian), but it didn´t work. I saw his homepage about "wedges" and that he has a lot of experiance about wedges. Because I got a 350 i from 87 some years ago and now I have a problem and nobody in Germany can help me, now I tried to find contact to british enthusiasts and hope to get an answer to my question. So ... if Ian or anybody else reads this words , please let me now that this message could be seen in the forum. (my email: udo@inglessen.de) In the case that someone sees this message here my problem:
After the engine (rover V8, 3,5 l, Lucas fuel injection) starts without problems and goes the first kilometers without problems, when it grows warm, it began to, oh shit, my bad english, in Germany we would say ... der Motor ruckelt im Teillastbereich, Fuss vom Gas, kein Problem, Fuss aufs Gas und hochbeschleunigen, auch kein Problem, aber mit etwas Gas nur so dahinrollen geht garnicht, dann ruckelts wie auf einem Rodeo Pferd). Possible, that anyone understands German and know what I mean, but I trie to say it in English: if the Gas-Pedal isnt push down, it is no problem, if it is push down to speed up, it is no problem, but if it is push just a little bit to cruise for example throuw the city, it does like a rodeo-horse, its is like there is not enough fuel or if interupt the icnition. Has anybody an idea what it can be.
Thank you and greetings from Germany (Cologne) to Great Britain
Udo
this is my first step in the Forum. I have to apologise for my bad english, but I hope you all can understand what I want to say.
I tried to cantact Nickname "wedg1e" (Ian), but it didn´t work. I saw his homepage about "wedges" and that he has a lot of experiance about wedges. Because I got a 350 i from 87 some years ago and now I have a problem and nobody in Germany can help me, now I tried to find contact to british enthusiasts and hope to get an answer to my question. So ... if Ian or anybody else reads this words , please let me now that this message could be seen in the forum. (my email: udo@inglessen.de) In the case that someone sees this message here my problem:
After the engine (rover V8, 3,5 l, Lucas fuel injection) starts without problems and goes the first kilometers without problems, when it grows warm, it began to, oh shit, my bad english, in Germany we would say ... der Motor ruckelt im Teillastbereich, Fuss vom Gas, kein Problem, Fuss aufs Gas und hochbeschleunigen, auch kein Problem, aber mit etwas Gas nur so dahinrollen geht garnicht, dann ruckelts wie auf einem Rodeo Pferd). Possible, that anyone understands German and know what I mean, but I trie to say it in English: if the Gas-Pedal isnt push down, it is no problem, if it is push down to speed up, it is no problem, but if it is push just a little bit to cruise for example throuw the city, it does like a rodeo-horse, its is like there is not enough fuel or if interupt the icnition. Has anybody an idea what it can be.
Thank you and greetings from Germany (Cologne) to Great Britain
Udo
used babel fish for the translation, almost worked.
"the engine jerk ELT in the partial load range, foot of the gas, no problem, foot on the gas and high-accelerate, also no problem, but with something gas to there-roll only in such a way, then ruckelts as on a Rodeo horse does not go)."
I am sure someone will be along soon with some answers.
Mark
"the engine jerk ELT in the partial load range, foot of the gas, no problem, foot on the gas and high-accelerate, also no problem, but with something gas to there-roll only in such a way, then ruckelts as on a Rodeo horse does not go)."
I am sure someone will be along soon with some answers.
Mark
Exactly the same thing is happening to mine at the moment.
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=1&f=12&t=279497&h=0
Have you checked your potentiometer:
My potentiometer is fine so it must be something else on mine
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=1&f=12&t=279497&h=0
Have you checked your potentiometer:
My potentiometer is fine so it must be something else on mine
Hello Udo and welcome.
First you need to check for air leaks. Then I would change water temperature sender. Then maybe change ignition module on the distributor.
Of course I am assuming spark plugs, leads, timing etc are ok.
Good luck and stay in touch
Also there is good stuff here......www.tvrwedgepages.co.uk/
First you need to check for air leaks. Then I would change water temperature sender. Then maybe change ignition module on the distributor.
Of course I am assuming spark plugs, leads, timing etc are ok.
Good luck and stay in touch
Also there is good stuff here......www.tvrwedgepages.co.uk/
Hi Udo; I'm glad you found my site useful!
I also think it is a problem with the throttle potentiometer; you can disconnect it and the car will still run OK. If the problem stops then the potentiometer is probably broken.
I'm sorry I don't speak German; I never got past 'mein Volkswagen ist kaput' and 'ich habe feuer in mein lederhosen'
I also think it is a problem with the throttle potentiometer; you can disconnect it and the car will still run OK. If the problem stops then the potentiometer is probably broken.
I'm sorry I don't speak German; I never got past 'mein Volkswagen ist kaput' and 'ich habe feuer in mein lederhosen'
Im very suprised. I have just sent my problem, and only moments later I got a lot of help. Great. I think I must move to Great Britain.
Especially thank to Ian, I read your home page with much respect. Now I´ve first to translate an understand your tips. Than I´ll took my wedge out of the garage and look on the engine to compare it with your picture. I think, the problem must have to do with a temperature-indicator, because its okay, while the engine is cold. I´ve to learn, to send a foto of my enginge with a little mark on the point I think where the problem comes from.
Bye an thanks again
Udo
P.S.: Lederhosen werden nur in Bayern getrage, und das gehört nicht wirklich zu Deutschland!!! Oder doch??
Especially thank to Ian, I read your home page with much respect. Now I´ve first to translate an understand your tips. Than I´ll took my wedge out of the garage and look on the engine to compare it with your picture. I think, the problem must have to do with a temperature-indicator, because its okay, while the engine is cold. I´ve to learn, to send a foto of my enginge with a little mark on the point I think where the problem comes from.
Bye an thanks again
Udo
P.S.: Lederhosen werden nur in Bayern getrage, und das gehört nicht wirklich zu Deutschland!!! Oder doch??
You can test temperature sensor with a 170 Ohm resistor.
Look at page 35 to see how here...www.pixeltechnology.co.uk/wedge/maint_fuel_injection.pdf
Look at page 35 to see how here...www.pixeltechnology.co.uk/wedge/maint_fuel_injection.pdf
Edited by dickymint on Sunday 25th June 12:24
Edited by dickymint on Sunday 25th June 12:25
Udo said:
I´m very happy that my Text really arrived the forum-members. I am not so stupid as my wife says. Thank you very much for the moment. It will be a nice sunday for me, I wish you all a fine sunday.
Best wishes from Glessen (near Cologne)
Udo
Best wishes from Glessen (near Cologne)
Udo
i have just moved from Pulhiem , i used to drive through Glessen every day to and from work 
Hi Marki,
unbelievable. Glessen is not really a big town. Where did you work in Glessen? There are not very much possibilities. I´m working at the "Stadt Pulheim". I´ve do drive from Glessen to Pulheim and back every day.
If you are next time in Pulheim or Glessen, I would like to meet you. My email: udo@inglessen.de
I think, you are now in Netherlands. Many TVR`s there, isn´t it?
Best wishes from Glessen, hope to see you soon
Udo
unbelievable. Glessen is not really a big town. Where did you work in Glessen? There are not very much possibilities. I´m working at the "Stadt Pulheim". I´ve do drive from Glessen to Pulheim and back every day.
If you are next time in Pulheim or Glessen, I would like to meet you. My email: udo@inglessen.de
I think, you are now in Netherlands. Many TVR`s there, isn´t it?
Best wishes from Glessen, hope to see you soon
Udo
Udo
You need to start at the beginning and check all obvious stuff like fuelling, ignition, air... but a very quick one is to disconnect the ECU main plug and then reconnect it. When you push the plug back in it should CLICK and LOCK positively in position. This cleans the electrical contacts.
It is possible to have the plug only half located (no click). This would give intermittent connections. I have had similar fault/symptom with my car!
Leo
You need to start at the beginning and check all obvious stuff like fuelling, ignition, air... but a very quick one is to disconnect the ECU main plug and then reconnect it. When you push the plug back in it should CLICK and LOCK positively in position. This cleans the electrical contacts.
It is possible to have the plug only half located (no click). This would give intermittent connections. I have had similar fault/symptom with my car!
Leo
we must have passed on the way to work every day Hello all together,
I followed Ian´s advice and disconnected the throttle-potentiometer (black, round plastic box at the left side of the air-entrance-channel, where the arrow in the foto points to. Some wires come out of it, I disconnected the white Plug). Now, after a short test-round the problem seems obviously have gone. The engine turns very evenly. Now my questions: Can it be bad for the engine to hold the Plug disconnected? What is the sence of a throttle-potentiometer, when the engine runs fine without it? And, can I conclude, that the potentiometer must be broken or can it be possible, that the problem comes again when I change the potentiometer and connect it?
thanks in advance
Udo
I followed Ian´s advice and disconnected the throttle-potentiometer (black, round plastic box at the left side of the air-entrance-channel, where the arrow in the foto points to. Some wires come out of it, I disconnected the white Plug). Now, after a short test-round the problem seems obviously have gone. The engine turns very evenly. Now my questions: Can it be bad for the engine to hold the Plug disconnected? What is the sence of a throttle-potentiometer, when the engine runs fine without it? And, can I conclude, that the potentiometer must be broken or can it be possible, that the problem comes again when I change the potentiometer and connect it?
thanks in advance
Udo
udo said:
Hello all together,
I followed Ian´s advice and disconnected the throttle-potentiometer (black, round plastic box at the left side of the air-entrance-channel, where the arrow in the foto points to. Some wires come out of it, I disconnected the white Plug). Now, after a short test-round the problem seems obviously have gone. The engine turns very evenly. Now my questions: Can it be bad for the engine to hold the Plug disconnected? What is the sence of a throttle-potentiometer, when the engine runs fine without it? And, can I conclude, that the potentiometer must be broken or can it be possible, that the problem comes again when I change the potentiometer and connect it?
thanks in advance
Udo
I followed Ian´s advice and disconnected the throttle-potentiometer (black, round plastic box at the left side of the air-entrance-channel, where the arrow in the foto points to. Some wires come out of it, I disconnected the white Plug). Now, after a short test-round the problem seems obviously have gone. The engine turns very evenly. Now my questions: Can it be bad for the engine to hold the Plug disconnected? What is the sence of a throttle-potentiometer, when the engine runs fine without it? And, can I conclude, that the potentiometer must be broken or can it be possible, that the problem comes again when I change the potentiometer and connect it?
thanks in advance
Udo
.......... I'll have to try this tomorrow......
Hi Udo; I will try this in German for you :-
Es ist nicht schlecht für die Maschine, ohne den Potentiometer zu fahren, aber es ist nicht vollkommen. Der Potentiometer hilft dem ECU, den Kraftstoff genau zu bilden.
Der Potentiometer kann schließlich heraus tragen, oder Leitungen brechen. Sie konnten ein Neues finden.
Ich hoffe, daß dieses Ihnen hilft!
:- Es ist nicht schlecht für die Maschine, ohne den Potentiometer zu fahren, aber es ist nicht vollkommen. Der Potentiometer hilft dem ECU, den Kraftstoff genau zu bilden.
Der Potentiometer kann schließlich heraus tragen, oder Leitungen brechen. Sie konnten ein Neues finden.
Ich hoffe, daß dieses Ihnen hilft!
wedg1e said:
Hi Udo; I will try this in German for you :-
Es ist nicht schlecht für die Maschine, ohne den Potentiometer zu fahren, aber es ist nicht vollkommen. Der Potentiometer hilft dem ECU, den Kraftstoff genau zu bilden.
Der Potentiometer kann schließlich heraus tragen, oder Leitungen brechen. Sie konnten ein Neues finden.
Ich hoffe, daß dieses Ihnen hilft!
:- Es ist nicht schlecht für die Maschine, ohne den Potentiometer zu fahren, aber es ist nicht vollkommen. Der Potentiometer hilft dem ECU, den Kraftstoff genau zu bilden.
Der Potentiometer kann schließlich heraus tragen, oder Leitungen brechen. Sie konnten ein Neues finden.
Ich hoffe, daß dieses Ihnen hilft!
And Babel Fish says................
It is not bad for the machine, without driving to the potentiometers, but it is not perfect. The potentiometers helps that ECU to form the fuel exactly. The potentiometers can finally carry out, or break lines. They could find a new. I hope that this helps you!
Good try Ian.
new translation:
Your Rodeo lederhosen are not on fire, your wife still thinks your a bit crazy, your TVR will have intemittent electrical faults for ever and we are going to win the World Cup anyway.
But you sound happy and that's all that matters - move to Engerland as soon as possible - there'll be a law against TVRs/having fun/electrical faults in Germany very soon.....
mfg
Steve
Your Rodeo lederhosen are not on fire, your wife still thinks your a bit crazy, your TVR will have intemittent electrical faults for ever and we are going to win the World Cup anyway.
But you sound happy and that's all that matters - move to Engerland as soon as possible - there'll be a law against TVRs/having fun/electrical faults in Germany very soon.....
mfg
Steve
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