New TVR still under wraps!

[BJWoods]

Milky400 said:

Both spot on comments in my eyes. love or hate Dom, we all owe him a little for keeping what was left of TVR alive and kicking. Although he isn't the only person that has contributed in aiding the survival of the brand long after its demise. Jason too has played a role in this. Obviously one has decided to join the network and the other has not. only guys who can comment on this are the people directly involved. there's also the smaller indies that have played a huge role in this, allowing us to maintain these amazing cars at relatively affordable pricing. I'm sure the guys heading up the New TVR are all aware of this and appreciate that they have kept a brand from falling like many others have.

Me, I'm excited to see the new car and hope that its a roaring success. I'm not interested in buying one as I don't have that sort of money laying around, and I love the Tuscan and its Powers Performance rebuild to much to part with it

yes, they have helped. but I don't see Jason publicly bhing and stirring all the time.. that sort of behaviour puts me off ever dealing with Powers Performance

[anonymous-user]

Milky400 said:

The Surveyor said:

julian64 said:

Without Dom holding up the supply chain very many more TVRs would be off the road now. Without his input into development and maintenance lots more TVR owners would have walked away.

TVR actually owes Dom quite a lot whether they know it/appreciate it, or not.

You are 100% correct on the value of Dom's contribution to the survival of the TVR brand, and many of the cars on the road today. Dom (and apologies if I get this wrong) is a supporter of the old TVR brand and has been shunned by the new venture, there is therefore no love lost between the parties.

Both spot on comments in my eyes. love or hate Dom, we all owe him a little for keeping what was left of TVR alive and kicking. Although he isn't the only person that has contributed in aiding the survival of the brand long after its demise.

Are your cars in for repair

[Milky400]

BJWoods said:

yes, they have helped. but I don't see Jason publicly bhing and stirring all the time.. that sort of behaviour puts me off ever dealing with Powers Performance

fair point well made.....

[m4tti]

BJWoods said:

yes, they have helped. but I don't see Jason publicly bhing and stirring all the time.. that sort of behaviour puts me off ever dealing with Powers Performance

Str8six are part of the new TVR network though... members of which will be potentially maintaining and upgrading the new cars.

[The Surveyor]

V6Pushfit said:

Are your cars in for repair

LOL. No, but I have used him for a service on my old Tuscan in the past.

The point I was making is that the work Dom (and others) have done on the old TVR's has no connection at all with the current TVR rebirth. Neither party owes anything to the other.

[Incognegro]

m4tti said:

BJWoods said:

yes, they have helped. but I don't see Jason publicly bhing and stirring all the time.. that sort of behaviour puts me off ever dealing with Powers Performance

Str8six are part of the new TVR network though... members of which will be potentially maintaining and upgrading the new cars.

This being said they are effectively competition to one another. Toes are being stepped on both ways and a common ground cant be reached due to the 'payments' going back to the main body. A bit like the EU and Brexit

[glow worm]

At least Dom can't be accused of sitting on the fence . I think many others with TVR involvement are trying to play it safe and cover their bases ( which is quite understandable) .

[Yex 450]

glow worm said:

At least Dom can't be accused of sitting on the fence. I think many others with TVR involvement are trying to play it safe and cover their bases (which is quite understandable) .

The reason I like dealing with Dom, he talks straight Some people like it and others find it difficult to take.

Incognegro said:

This being said they are effectively competition to one another. Toes are being stepped on both ways and a common ground can’t be reached due to the 'payments' going back to the main body. A bit like the EU and Brexit

The “payments” were a reason a few TVR specialists did not choose to join the new authorised network. Dom was one of these and commented as such a while back now, if he wants to add to this I’m sure he will

One thing Dom is comfortable with is his business model. Without wishing to put words in his mouth I doubt he is bothered by the new network as he has a loyal client base that continues to grow year on year.

[Incognegro]

Definitely shouldn't be too worried. Does known me for a while now and we both know each others needs clearly... In fact in light of everything my car/engine is with him as we speak (type) as I decided to go the 4.5Supersports and MBE route with him. The new car should be fantastic but Im just very confident I won't be "left behind".

From being at his factory ... to see all the other engines there I'm far from the only one that backs what they do its just a shame that "TVR" decided not too.

That said they can co exit without too much drama IMO

[Yex 450]

Incognegro said:

4.5 Supersports and MBE

You nasty man

That is going to be a monster

I've had a chunk of engine work done recently and am now able to have the MBE system added to my Chimaera, which will be nice

Proof between us that Dom provides what owners need and want and continues to eveolve his offerings for all previous TVR models

Can't wait to see a new TVR on the road and see what it can do

[Incognegro]

Lol Yex,

Gone all out marginal gains with this. Ceramic coating to manifolds/decats etc new heat shielding... added launch and traction to the MBE update too and electric PAS

Would love to have seen the tvr fam stay closer but it does seem a little them and us but the ostracising may have started with the £5k deposit to tvrcc members only and not to all "owners"

The MBE on the *chim has some great features but that's another thread entirely.

I look forward to seeing the new car rise... but do take the wraps off now guys.

Edited by Incognegro on Thursday 16th March 10:16

[dvs_dave]

Dom isn't distancing himself from the new cars at all, just the parts network arrangement.

It's no coincidence that he has a new shape 700 hp Mustang on his fleet with an aftermarket blower strapped to it....

[glow worm]

Yex 450 said:

Incognegro said:

4.5 Supersports and MBE

You nasty man

That is going to be a monster

I've been running my 4.5 SS for 4 years now and 3 years with the anti knock MBE ECU ... you won't be disappointed

[FAN-OF-TVR]

Let me make myself clear(ish), I follow Dom's work on the TVR Facebook page and it is seriously impressive, he does great stuff and has been an ambassador for TVR's of old, my point is live and let live. And to call me a keyboard warrior, I am not! I just don't appreciate the fact that a car I have placed a deposit on with my reasonably hard earned cash (credit card), needs the negativity. I'm not negative, I'm excited so how does that make the keyboard Warrior? I might change my opinion the week after next but I very much doubt it. I'm not expecting a complete car, what I'm expecting a look of what the car will be. That's my opinion.

[PowersPerformance]

FAN-OF-TVR said:

Let me make myself clear(ish), I follow Dom's work on the TVR Facebook page and it is seriously impressive, he does great stuff and has been an ambassador for TVR's of old, my point is live and let live. And to call me a keyboard warrior, I am not! I just don't appreciate the fact that a car I have placed a deposit on with my reasonably hard earned cash (credit card), needs the negativity. I'm not negative, I'm excited so how does that make the keyboard Warrior? I might change my opinion the week after next but I very much doubt it. I'm not expecting a complete car, what I'm expecting a look of what the car will be. That's my opinion.

Fair comment I take the good with the bad but never under estimate our capabilities and avenues we take not being part of the TVR network , we had no choice but to stay independent for obvious reasons and if people are offended with legit statements then I'm sorry , 3 yrs later and there no actual car amazes me... I stand corrected in the nicest possible way


Dom

[PowersPerformance]

BJWoods said:

Milky400 said:

Both spot on comments in my eyes. love or hate Dom, we all owe him a little for keeping what was left of TVR alive and kicking. Although he isn't the only person that has contributed in aiding the survival of the brand long after its demise. Jason too has played a role in this. Obviously one has decided to join the network and the other has not. only guys who can comment on this are the people directly involved. there's also the smaller indies that have played a huge role in this, allowing us to maintain these amazing cars at relatively affordable pricing. I'm sure the guys heading up the New TVR are all aware of this and appreciate that they have kept a brand from falling like many others have.

Me, I'm excited to see the new car and hope that its a roaring success. I'm not interested in buying one as I don't have that sort of money laying around, and I love the Tuscan and its Powers Performance rebuild to much to part with it

yes, they have helped. but I don't see Jason publicly bhing and stirring all the time.. that sort of behaviour puts me off ever dealing with Powers Performance

Love or hate that's life if you feel I'm bhing then so be it , but to have TVR come to my door and request I have to stop selling parts and pay a licence fee for my own success was an insult at the highest level

Dom

Edited by PowersPerformance on Wednesday 15th March 22:46

[BJWoods]

PowersPerformance said:

Love or hate that's life if you feel I'm bhing then so be it , but to have TVR come to my door and request I have to stop selling parts and pay a licence fee for my own success was an insult at the highest level

Dom

Edited by PowersPerformance on Wednesday 15th March 22:46

No. It was just business.
A brand protects it's intellectual property.

[twold]

Yex 450 said:

glow worm said:

At least Dom can't be accused of sitting on the fence. I think many others with TVR involvement are trying to play it safe and cover their bases (which is quite understandable) .

The reason I like dealing with Dom, he talks straight Some people like it and others find it difficult to take.

Incognegro said:

This being said they are effectively competition to one another. Toes are being stepped on both ways and a common ground can’t be reached due to the 'payments' going back to the main body. A bit like the EU and Brexit

The “payments” were a reason a few TVR specialists did not choose to join the new authorised network. Dom was one of these and commented as such a while back now, if he wants to add to this I’m sure he will

One thing Dom is comfortable with is his business model. Without wishing to put words in his mouth I doubt he is bothered by the new network as he has a loyal client base that continues to grow year on year.

I went to see Dom a couple of months ago and I did not get the impression that he was as comfortable with his business model as you are suggesting, in fact he suggested to me that he was looking for additional avenues to pursue.Every year there are fewer TVRs on the road.Also I got the impression that after decades with the marque he is looking for a new /additional challenge,when you can do something with your eyes closed it inevitably gets boring.

[Yex 450]

twold said:

I went to see Dom a couple of months ago and I did not get the impression that he was as comfortable with his business model as you are suggesting, in fact he suggested to me that he was looking for additional avenues to pursue.Every year there are fewer TVRs on the road.Also I got the impression that after decades with the marque he is looking for a new /additional challenge,when you can do something with your eyes closed it inevitably gets boring.

He is certainly looking at other avenues and has been for some time now, hence why he has a 911T, a Lambo and now a Mustang with a blower on the fleet. If I owned any of these cars I would be happy to go to Dom and his team for upgrades and servicing etc. as their reputation with TVR's would suggest the same level of customer satisfaction would be given to the new models. I agree that TVR's are declining in numbers and as such perhaps margins are being squeezed each year but I will remain happy to pay premium prices (by TVR standards anyway ) for people like Dom to work on my car. My concern for the new TVR is that the dealerships will become the glass and steel palaces that Porsche etc. use and prices for servicing and other work will be high due to the costs of running the dealership under a license of some sort and the associated costs of monthly payments to remain inside the new TVR network. I genuinely hope that the new car is what the people who have placed deposits want, and I do believe it will be, but the test will be the period after the launch when the new members of the network will still need to make their monthly payments to the brand regardless of on going sales and cyclical servicing and upgrade work.

As I said above I really do want to see a new TVR on the road and would almost certainly have ordered one if the price had been lower but at my age c£80,000 on a new car that is yet to be seen working at full chat is something I just cannot warrant.

[pb450]

+1 to this Ian.