TVRCC Membership Fee Increase

[RichB]

simpo two said:

I still haven't had my freebie for being an RO.

Didn't realise RO's git freebies? Care to explain? Rich...

That should of course have been "got" !!!

>> Edited by RichB on Tuesday 9th September 13:28

[whatever]

Well, it seemed clear to me from the Le Mans donation that the club had more money than it knew what to do with. Apparently not. It now seems that the only logical conclusion is that the club is all about supporting whatever the committee members want to do. Fair enough.

I was advised when I so ungraciously voiced my displeasure at the Le Mans donation debacle to refrain from renewing. I was reluctant to do this, feeling guilty about a "lack of support" for the club. I don't any more: this extra fiver makes things very easy for me.

This fiver is going to raise an extra £35,000. Well, it won't include anything from me.


By the way, has anyone ever read how much over-and-above the £5,000 donation was received in extra voluntary donations, which the club's minutes had said would be used to repay the original donation back into club funds? I haven't yet, I think I must have missed it...

[simpo two]

RichB said:

Didn't realise RO's git freebies? Care to explain? Rich...

It was a very well kept secret. All ROs are entitled to free membership. As it can be hard to get ROs I'm surprised they don't make a bigger deal out of it.

[raceboy]

Alf Essex said:

the Mid-Essex region I am involved with are a great bunch of people and our 2 RO's the most enthusiastic RO's you could possibly meet. We have great events most months and would happily pay another £5, after all whats in a £5 for the year!

Now I'm not condoning this but, do you check the memberships of everyone that turns up to your regional meetings or is driving a TVR good enough to get you accepted
I appreciate that £5 is not a lot of money, but where do you draw the line it's not about the ammount it's about value
I'm a member of the DPRAC and for £13 a year for a joint membership this is excellant value, and last night me and racegirl had about 30 minute each out on track at Donington for free, if you don't include any of the other benifits thats £6.50 for 3, 10 minute track sessions, now thats value

[PetrolTed]

Alf Essex said:

...maybe they should link PH to the TVR web...Ted views?

No problem. Cost is £35K

[simpo two]

raceboy said:

do you check the memberships of everyone that turns up to your regional meetings or is driving a TVR good enough to get you accepted

Anyone can go to a TVRCC meeting (regional monthly one that is). You don't need a TVR either. You only need TVRCC membership to attend certain Club events, get Sprint, and - er - I was going to say 'vote'... but I don't think that gets down to member level.

[Terminator]

PetrolTed said:

No problem. Cost is £35K

If the motion to increase membership is defeated, I take it you'll do it for nothing?

[raceboy]

simpo two said:

You only need TVRCC membership to attend certain Club events

So I only need it for Back Home (which we worked out we could have a week in Spain for the price of a weekend in Blackpool now I like TVR's but not that much
Mania, I didn't go, because I didn't think it would be very good, and from the reports it wasn't, so that was a good choice
So that just leaves Trackdays, and the ammount of companies running them theres plenty cheaper than the TVRCC ones, alright you've got to sort out insurance if your not with the right company or just risk it but if you don't actually venture out onto track that often this is much of a loss.
So then theres Le Mans tickets, as someones said these are available else where at the same sort of costs and I imagine I'll still know a member or 2 so they could just order them for me
I'm rapidly taking myself out of renewing and no ones really fighting the TVRCC corner

[Big_M]

Life and TVRCC is what you make it really. So far this year we have experienced.

A long weekend in France
Back Home
Every monthly meet at the local plus a couple of neighbouring counties
Local Go Carting event
Numerous Car shows
Christmas Party 02
Several trips to watch the Tuscans race

In fact I guess we could have done something every weekend with the car club if we had the time. But along the way we have made some excellent friendships and met some great people. And got to have my photo taken with Peter Wheeler on several occasions

If we can afford to run a TVR another £5 is not a great deal - although I do think the membership should have been consulted about the money that went to the Le Mans team.

[raceboy]

Big_M said:

Life and TVRCC is what you make it really. So far this year we have experienced. A long weekend in France Back Home Every monthly meet at the local plus a couple of neighbouring counties Local Go Carting event Numerous Car shows Christmas Party 02 Several trips to watch the Tuscans race

And only Back Home required membership I can remember when you used to get discounted Tuscan tickets but that seems to have disappeared

Big_M said:

If we can afford to run a TVR another £5 is not a great deal

It's not about the money it's about value, we run TVR's we can afford petrol at £1 a litre but I don't want to pay it

[chimhunter]

PetrolTed said:

I see from the AGM voting form that there's a proposal to increase the membership fee by £5. Likely to go through or not?

Don't mean to be rude but everyone here seems to be moaning about the increase. Isn't Ted's post about whether this will be voted in or not?

So stop moaning about an extra £5 (which hasn't been applied yet) and vote against the raise!

Alternatively, go along, hassle the comittee to declare what the money will be for (salaries, computers, diesel, whatever) and make an informed decision.

Rob

[Big_M]

Raceboy - I think you will find that our RO is quite meticulous at checking who is a TVRCC member at our meets - only members will be on the email list and able to attend the special events.

[raceboy]

Well I've managed to convince myself it's not even worth £30 so I'm voting for a £5 reduction

[Podie]

Big_M said:

Raceboy - I think you will find that our RO is quite meticulous at checking who is a TVRCC member at our meets - only members will be on the email list and able to attend the special events.

Agreed. Pauline is meticulous on ensuring that people join... in fact, the first words she utters are "hi, nice to meet you, I'm Pauline, are you a member of the TVR Car Club".

Given that I tend to lead the convoy into Mid-Essex's meet I also point out the newbies to her...

[plotloss]

Podie said:

Big_M said: Raceboy - I think you will find that our RO is quite meticulous at checking who is a TVRCC member at our meets - only members will be on the email list and able to attend the special events. Agreed. Pauline is meticulous on ensuring that people join... in fact, the first words she utters are "hi, nice to meet you, I'm Pauline, are you a member of the TVR Car Club". Given that I tend to lead the convoy into Mid-Essex's meet I also point out the newbies to her...

Thats how the KKK started...

[raceboy]

Big_M said:

I think you will find that our RO is quite meticulous at checking who is a TVRCC member at our meets - only members will be on the email list and able to attend the special events.

I'm getting all sorts of mental images from the term 'special events'
Our RO does a great job with the membership he has (even if he drives a Porsche) and I might fall off his email list but I'd still have access to the website and would see when anything is happening and I can't imagine him banning me from the pub

[mr.t]

OK, true enough, I understand why some people will get the 'ump about a £5 annual increase, and some won't bat an eyelid. I also understand why some were not best pleased about the £5k Le Mans sponsorship issue, but the end of the day, I would think that most TVR'ites ( me included ) will pay the extra £5, although some will do be-grudgingly, just to continue getting the mag @ approx £3.50p a pop per month. I also fully appreciate that there is a matter of principal here, even more so, if the £5 is levied without proper consultation, but guys (& girl's), £5 is less that a gallon and a half of super unleaded, and how many gallons of that stuff do we all waste a year, doing sometimes daft stuff!.

[rev-erend]

From memory - I think only about 10 % of members actually vote - it's very fairly done.

So if you don't like what is proposed - VOTE.

I used to hate talking to people who continually
moaned about the government (which ever one is in power) and then adding - did you bother to vote..

remember it's your only way to fairly change something in a democracy..

[yiw1393]

Were we the membership consulted on the £5k donation? I don't remember seeing the ballot. Okay £5 is nothing - 2 pints of beer, a splash of Optimax, etc, (neither of which is wasted) and both currently give me more pleasure than TVRCC membership. It's the value for money thing. Elsewhere on this site I have vented my spleen about the local branch of the club, so I won't bore you all again. Reading Sprint pretty much backs up my agreement with Raceboy.

On the whole would I pay another fiver? no. Will I vote for it? no.

What's in the club for me? I don't do trackdays. I don't fancy any of the regoinal meets. The cost of Back Home is extortionate - won't be going there then. Le Mans tickets? Possibly, but not unavailable elsewhere.

What can I give the club? My personal experiences of owning and running a 4.0 Chimaera for 2 years. Not exactly exciting reading (for other owners) because it's done nothing that any of the other 4.0 Chimaeras have/haven't done. Any advice I need I can get on here, more quickly and probably by more than one person who has had the same problem and has worked out a cheap fix.


TVRCC

[raceboy]

rev-erend said:

So if you don't like what is proposed - VOTE.

So are we going to be polled on this and if the majority so No, it'll not go up who in their right mind would vote to pay more for no obvious extra service

rev-erend said:

I used to hate talking to people who continually moaned about the government (which ever one is in power) and then adding - did you bother to vote..

Couldn't agree more
And we were not asked about the £5k to put the sticker on the Le Mans cars, and would they have been there without that £5k I think so, I just think it's going to leave a sour taste in the mouth of a lot of owners and if they aren't carefull they will loose members and then the membership costs will spiral and the events will suffer,