New TVR still under wraps!
Discussion
Max_Torque said:
Pretty sure there won't be any engine h/w mods except different exhaust and aftertreatment (because it's only doing low volume SVA not full ETA) and a recal of the engine management (not confirmed if they are sticking with the MBE 9A9 controller, or going to use the OE ecu). The benefit of using a crate engine is the reliability brought by the high volume line build and supply processes, and opening the engine up to swap heads etc would negate most of that bought in reliability.......
ECU on the LE car is a Cosworth module advised at the depositors reveal in March. Cosworth upgrades are dry sump conversion and bespoke ECU. dvs_dave said:
As we're all now playing at car designers, I thought I'd fire up GIMP to add some simple mods, see how they look. Below are a few variations for a modified front end (which seems to be the most controversial angle) with a nod to the last Griff's front end styling cues.
Arguably the front end on the last one is not its best angle. Very fish like.
With grill slat.
With Driving lamps
With grill slat and driving lamps.
Although I'm curious to know what happened to the pepper pot grill shown in one of the teaser images. Everyone seems to have forgotten about that....
No they didn't, see page 166
Arguably the front end on the last one is not its best angle. Very fish like.
With grill slat.
With Driving lamps
With grill slat and driving lamps.
Although I'm curious to know what happened to the pepper pot grill shown in one of the teaser images. Everyone seems to have forgotten about that....
No they didn't, see page 166
PoleDriver said:
So looking forward to seeing it driven by Chris Harris etc. 
Speed 3 said:
Why am I thinking it sounds like a ride-on mower at tickover 
Great to see it on the road for all those naysayers who said it wouldn't get that far and probably didn't believe it was driveable at Goodwood
Looks great in the natural light and I can understand why they chose the colour.
Suppose it will sound unusual standing to on side as you are primarily hearing one exhaust ie 4 cylinders. Are the wheels the same but without the diamond cut finish? Like the ones fitted to the mock up of the race car. Look so much better.Great to see it on the road for all those naysayers who said it wouldn't get that far and probably didn't believe it was driveable at Goodwood
Looks great in the natural light and I can understand why they chose the colour.
ChrisPap said:
That exhaust configurations sounds different wherever you stand. Gives a low, thunderous, stuttery noise. Google any Merc SLS clips. Particularly the GT3 race car.
Wheels are definitely different from both the launch car (not just minus the diamond cut) and different from the race mock up, which had a 6x douple spoke pn the RH 'race car side', and gloss black Launch Wheels on the LH X-ray side.
I'm sure I did see that 5x double spoke style from the drive video on one of the sketches or renders, but I can't find it now....
Will check it out.Wheels are definitely different from both the launch car (not just minus the diamond cut) and different from the race mock up, which had a 6x douple spoke pn the RH 'race car side', and gloss black Launch Wheels on the LH X-ray side.
I'm sure I did see that 5x double spoke style from the drive video on one of the sketches or renders, but I can't find it now....
Good to see a few different alloys being fitted, should mean 2 or 3 options are offered.
ChrisPap said:
That specific exhaust configuration sounds different wherever you stand, not just directly to the side. Gives a low, thunderous noise. Google any AMG SLS GT3 race car clips.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/HDrPRtyzsHY?t=53s
Wheels are definitely different from both the launch car (not just minus the diamond cut) and different from the race mock up, which had a 6x douple spoke pn the RH 'race car side', and gloss black Launch Wheels on the LH X-ray side.
I'm sure I did see that 5x double spoke style from the drive video on one of the sketches or renders, but I can't find it now....
Bloody hell. If it sounds like that I will be well happy. Sounds like a Spitfire (Merlin, not Triumph) . Tally ho, chocks away!https://www.youtube.com/embed/HDrPRtyzsHY?t=53s
Wheels are definitely different from both the launch car (not just minus the diamond cut) and different from the race mock up, which had a 6x douple spoke pn the RH 'race car side', and gloss black Launch Wheels on the LH X-ray side.
I'm sure I did see that 5x double spoke style from the drive video on one of the sketches or renders, but I can't find it now....
Edited by ChrisPap on Tuesday 19th September 08:51
ChrisPap said:
Added a link above for ease. If you listen for the thrum at idle as they push the car out at 0:55 sec, it's very close, if you can tune out the gearbox whine.
It's not that I want to crush your hopes, but- I think there has only been one wheel shown on the road car, in either matt black with diamond cut, or full gloss black on the styling mule, but I expect they were gloss black as either prototypes or were only for ease. The wheels on the race car are probably to differentiate it from the road car, and the ones on the video of it driving inside the Broadford Business Park (GMD) look like off the shelf mags, probably done for mock up and evaluation before the LE wheels were available.
I actually like the LE wheels in black. It's the diamond cut finish that isn't to my taste. So, lava orange paint with gloss black wheels, black leather with orange stitching. Perfect.It's not that I want to crush your hopes, but- I think there has only been one wheel shown on the road car, in either matt black with diamond cut, or full gloss black on the styling mule, but I expect they were gloss black as either prototypes or were only for ease. The wheels on the race car are probably to differentiate it from the road car, and the ones on the video of it driving inside the Broadford Business Park (GMD) look like off the shelf mags, probably done for mock up and evaluation before the LE wheels were available.
Rob-s5mok said:
Personally, I'll use GT101. Apparently they are used to dealing with some performance car or other
http://gt101.co.uk
You in Essex Rob? GT101 closest to me. They need to update their web site though, still showing new car as the Autocar render....http://gt101.co.uk
madcal said:
I have ordered one and was planning a colour scheme just like that!
Or maybe replace all orange with lime green....
Hey I have shotgunned that colour combo lol. Or maybe replace all orange with lime green....
Will look good though eh. Actually I think the orange might be the volcano orange as used by McLaren. Looks amazing.
Moycie said:
Beat me to it! I was about to post the same pictures.....here's the rear...
Finally the pictures it deserves. Mine will be in Blue...thanks.. :-)
new-car-banner-image-rear by Aaron Moyce, on Flickr
Blue will look nice. Maybe that bright blue that BMW do...Estoril Blue...with black wheels....mmmmmFinally the pictures it deserves. Mine will be in Blue...thanks.. :-)
new-car-banner-image-rear by Aaron Moyce, on FlickrRob-s5mok said:
El stovey said:
I thought it was a Toyota or Mazda at first.
Looks a bit dull and girly with that funny face. Certainly not like a TVR anyway, will there be enough women and hairdressers to buy it?
El, I am guessing from the multiple slagging off posts that you aren't a big fan of the new model? Ok, we get it.Time to move on and STFU. If it's a disaster, you can say 'OK, told you so'. But if it's a success, if you shut up now we'll all have forgotten. Win win!Looks a bit dull and girly with that funny face. Certainly not like a TVR anyway, will there be enough women and hairdressers to buy it?
RichB said:
ut of interest does anyone know what the cars will be made of? I understand the LE (Les Edgar/Limited Edition) 500 are carbon fibre but what after that? Steel? Fibre Glass? I did ask a chap in a black boiler suit on the stand but he didn't seem to know... 
I understand the frame is a mix of steel and carbon fibre, the bodywork is aluminium (bonnet, boot) and composite.barchetta_boy said:
I'm thinking Volcano Orange for mine - they had a panel on display at Goodwood with this colour, and I'm hoping it makes it to production. Les told me he thought it would.
I had a McLaren 12C in this colour and really miss it.
Otherwise, that blue looks good. Or silver, funnily enough - maybe silver with some light blue in it, like mclaren Ice Silver.
When do we think we'll be hearing something from the factory?
You obviously have great taste as that is the colour I would like, with gloss black wheels, not diamond cut. Then TVR sprayed in orange onto the grill!I had a McLaren 12C in this colour and really miss it.
Otherwise, that blue looks good. Or silver, funnily enough - maybe silver with some light blue in it, like mclaren Ice Silver.
When do we think we'll be hearing something from the factory?
Second choice would be the silver pearl or ice blue (crystal topaz)
I agree there is too much obsessing about the looks from every angle. Overall I think it looks great. How many cars ever look perfect and please everyone? There are many reasons to want to buy this car as the sale of all the deposits has proven. It's British. It's properly designed & by one of the most highly regarded design studios. It's going to be bloody fast. Seriously fast, supercar fast. Its going to sound incredible. Imagine flooring it with both windows down and those side exit exhausts in front of you, not behind you. It's going to be built from tried & tested components so should be reliable. It's going to be rare. Not common like a 911. It's going to hopefully compete at and finish at Le Man's 24hr which will give further credibility & bragging rights down the pub. It's going to be bloody great fun to drive with its light weight, amazing power to weight ratio and relatively simple driver aids/layout. And it's a TVR! That's why I have paid my deposit.
El stovey said:
Max_Torque said:
barchetta_boy said:
But a 991 Turbo S has 343bhp/ton.
And 4wd, a fabulously well judged DSC system and a transmission that changes gear without interrupting torque in the blink of an eye. Oh, and launch control...... In the real world the new TVR won't see which way a 911 turbo it'll be about 3000x more fun though ;-)
I’d agree that an old school TVR without all the driver aids and the possibility of bits coming off at high speed etc would be more fun, but this new TVR isn’t a raw performance car like those were. It’s much more aimed at the Porsche, Aston, Jaguar buyer than TVRs of old. It’s £90,000 not some affordable performance car of the Wheeler era.
That’s what I would worry about with this TVR revival, it’s priced against loads of fantastic cars. The TVRs I’ve owned were all about having performance miles ahead of anything in the price bracket. Now TVR has similar performance in the same price bracket and very importantly from world wide renown, decades old, well established luxury Marques. What’s the USP with this car?
Will someone thinking about a similar priced product from Porsche or Aston Martin be put off simply by walking into their local TVR dealership.
julian64 said:
If I was les and looking at all the threads on PH I would have picked up the following
Well received but everyone, and I mean everyone, is saying the front needs a redesign.
Considering its going to be two years till one of these hits the roads why not do the redesign?
Obviously it'll come down to Les putting his money where his mouth is one way or another. It just seems odd with so much feedback all aiming in one direction that you would ignore it?
No doubt the design of the front end is fairly fixed in terms of the ducting for air/ground affect and the cooling for the radiator/exhausts. I agree though that there should be a degree of flexibility to tweak the front end and the grill which from previous efforts posted here does improve the look. Well received but everyone, and I mean everyone, is saying the front needs a redesign.
Considering its going to be two years till one of these hits the roads why not do the redesign?
Obviously it'll come down to Les putting his money where his mouth is one way or another. It just seems odd with so much feedback all aiming in one direction that you would ignore it?
bullittmcqueen said:
You're right, that's what i meant. Not having it at all would probably not be a great idea at higher speeds.
Edit: does anyone have an idea at what speeds these are usually activated ? Quick googling on F-Type returns 70mph and retraction back at 50mph ? Audi S7 at ~80 mph ?
I remember from somewhere (might have been at the depositeers reveal) it extends at 60mph. 70mph would indicate you are exceeding the max speed limit in UK so I remember them saying it would extend at below 70mph. Remember if you don't like the look of the rear wing you won't need to worry as you won't be able to see it from the outside as you will be driving at 60mph when it rises. (the wing that is). By the time you stop and get out to admire your car the wing will have retracted. Edit: does anyone have an idea at what speeds these are usually activated ? Quick googling on F-Type returns 70mph and retraction back at 50mph ? Audi S7 at ~80 mph ?
Edited by bullittmcqueen on Wednesday 4th October 08:37
HarryW said:
Styling aside anyone have details on the engine, i like oily bits.... in particular is the base engine Cosworth worked on the latest Gen3 Coyote?
It's the 5.0 V8 from the current Mustang. Not the 5.2 version.This one I believe
https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-M50A
Edited by essexstu on Sunday 8th October 12:40
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Edited by essexstu on Sunday 8th October 12:41
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