LS1 into Chimaera will fit :) I knew it would.

[chimhunter]

Good find Dusty. Boosted, what sort of cash are you talking about for 1 of your 400 horse monsters?

Any ideas how much fitting is likely to be?

I was thinking of a Tuscan but this could be way more fun

[nztrev]

k77-widow maker said:

But it comes from over the pond!

Does the name Buick ring any bells?

[DustyC]

K77,

Its also as fitted in the Holden Commodores and you know whats coming our way soon?
Vauxhall Monaro

Lots of support gonna be available for that engine.

But I see what you mean about the Chim drivers. They probably want it just so they can get away with wearing cowboy hats and saying "I wanna hear you squeal like a pig boy"

[Boosted Ls1]

v8 racing said:

Hmm what was i saying to you just 2 days ago!!!!

To me Rob? Lots of good stuff

Pricing, hmmm I don't want to quote on here but it can certainly be done bespoke and new for under £10k with over 400 hp, fresh ecu, loom etc and a load of good parts as well. How much under depends on the spec. i always over estimate unless it's BHP then I underestimate.

[HarryW]

Boosted Ls1 said:

.... i always over estimate unless it's BHP then I underestimate.

I think you may live in parrallel but inverted universe to TVR then .

Harry

[chimhunter]

k77-widow maker said:

but it's for a chim...well that's alright, they need all the help they can get

Hmmm. From the man with the NoS Griff that's a little rich. Twin turbo Griff, Nos Griff, Griff with a tuscan nose. Seems the Griff ladies have an image problem

Anyway. Back to the car. Boosted, any idea how much it might cost to fit one of these bad boys into a Chim or a hair-dressers Griff?

Rob

[Boosted Ls1]

HarryW said:

Boosted Ls1 said: .... i always over estimate unless it's BHP then I underestimate. I think you may live in parrallel but inverted universe to TVR then . Harry

Perhaps that's why I'm poor and tvr made bucketloads

[DustyC]

chimhunter said:

k77-widow maker said: but it's for a chim...well that's alright, they need all the help they can get Hmmm. From the man with the NoS Griff that's a little rich. Twin turbo Griff, Nos Griff, Griff with a tuscan nose. Seems the Griff ladies have an image problem

You submitted the Nos Chim, Chim with a Tuscan nose, and the twin hairdryer Chim which featured those hairdrying pods on each headrest.

Serious stuff.
It seems there is a price already.
Below £10K was the answer.

Exact quotes note being given on the forum as there are details.

Considering it costs that much tio stick a VTEC in an Elise in seems like a bargin!

[david smith]

we had this chat in the cerb forum ...
Dont know if it was established if it fitted or not ...
may be a better cost option for a cerb when weighing up cost of new lump versus old and fact old lump now no longer made and support will dry up???

What clutch will be fitted ... problem with cerbs cost wise any hoo

Would installing one of these babies allow cerb "design faults" to be fixed ... ie slave cylinder only accessed with gearbox out ... sump only removable with engine out ....

What is the life expectancy between rebuilds?

Guess u would need to have well plus 400BHP to "justify" the conversion to fellow owners!!

>> Edited by david smith on Wednesday 27th October 01:08

[Boosted Ls1]

david smith said:

What clutch will be fitted ... problem with cerbs cost wise any hoo Would installing one of these babies allow cerb "design faults" to be fixed ... ie slave cylinder only accessed with gearbox out ... sump only removable with engine out .... What is the life expectancy between rebuilds? >> Edited by david smith on Wednesday 27th October 01:08

I fit the 500 hp vette clutches. The slave cylinder is concentric mounted around the gearbox input shaft and built to last by GM. Americans don't like servicing their cars, 100k intervals are what they like. I think thats how often you change the triple platinum plugs. Who would want a rebuild within 10 years? So I guess the engines are good for at least one plug change

[rev-erend]

Looks like it fits OK :

[RichardD]

Soooo....

Pre-cat Griff plus LS1 engine = best sounding TVR in the world... ?

[Graham]

david smith said:

Would installing one of these babies allow cerb "design faults" to be fixed ... ie slave cylinder only accessed with gearbox out ... sump only removable with engine out ....

if thats what you classify as deign faults in surprised you ever buy anything..

concentric slave cylinders are very good, but do have the down side of being in the bell housing..

on plenty of cars you can't get the sump out with the engine in place.


many moons ago we had to take the engine and box out of a fiesta to replace a 50p speedo drive gear... is that a desaign fault to..

[z_chromozone]

k77-widow maker said:

But it comes from over the pond! it will need cats,

You will not need cats if registered as a Q plate if I remember correctly. Are you really thinking of going that route for cheaper insurance.

Z

>> Edited by Big Al. on Wednesday 27th October 10:15

[Nano2nd]

well i think that even a standard 345bhp lump would be sweet, i mean if thats a real 345bhp compared to TVR's real 5.0 275ish bhp still means an increase of over 25% bhp.

moreover i hear that these things are pretty good on fuel and have silly long service intervals.

i'm sure people would be interested in standard lump to get costs down as previously mentioned there plenty of scope for upgrades later

[david smith]

Thanks for Reply Boosted ... logevity of engine IS a selling point to be sung about here!!!

Graham ..
point taken but taking a fiesta engine out isnt going to cost the same as a cerb and I would / have done that myself ...

the clutch and slave cylinders can only last 15K miles as mine have with a bill of around £1500 you woudnt need to do this too many times to justify the cost of a transplant ....

plus these were only 2 recent expensive posts ... my main point is around costs ... if my cerb Engine needs a rebuild you are looking at £5k ... add in clutch & service costs over next few years and the power gains of LS1 and a transplant for under(!?) £10k may not be so bad.

Dont get me wrong I love my cerb but its been off the road for around 5 weeks waiting for engine / clutch parts (Ive only had it 4 months!) maybe this scenario will only get worse ...

So in all yes they are design faults in my opinion ... that maybe can be improved on!!??

Over and Out ... DAS

[DustyC]

Nano2nd said:

well i think that even a standard 345bhp lump would be sweet, i mean if thats a real 345bhp compared to TVR's real 5.0 275ish bhp still means an increase of over 25% bhp.

Plus LS1boosted has already mentioned that his engines will be 400BHP, and that was under-estimating!

LS1boosted said:

The problem with pricing is determining the spec of the engine. Most people want the 400 hp vette ls6 but it doesn't come with a gearbox, the vette has a transaxle. So the ls1 is much more viable and can be found with a 6 speed tagged on but it has less power 350 hp ish. I build up what I call an LSX. It has many ls6 parts, ls6 intake manifold but with a cable throttle, windowed engine block, hot cam etc and a better after market oil pump. I also include(from stock)the parts needed for any install. I have different oil pans, alts and brackets etc. I make my own parts to. If you buy a crate engine you will be changing stuff straight away, certainly the existing GM loom and pcm is a pain. So I'm getting over 400 hp from a blend of parts but more is easily available for the same cost. If you provided a used engine the price would plummet.

>> Edited by DustyC on Wednesday 27th October 10:19

[jellison]

Boosted - so ARE you actually do any TVR installs?
If so can a t56 box not go onto a LS6. If so (or if not) and it had to be an LS1 + t56 (t5 best forgotten about if it will only be ok for a while) what length is this vs a Rover and t5. Thinking of engine positioning vs where the gear stick wants to come through.

Presumably the gearstick in the right place is a must if the fron of the engine if no further forward of Rover or at least not fouling anything (engine mounts moved a the front) and then a new (different length prop shaft be made up)?

[rev-erend]

jellison said:

Boosted - so ARE you actually do any TVR installs? If so can a t56 box not go onto a LS6. If so (or if not) and it had to be an LS1 + t56 (t5 best forgotten about if it will only be ok for a while) what length is this vs a Rover and t5. Thinking of engine positioning vs where the gear stick wants to come through. Presumably the gearstick in the right place is a must if the fron of the engine if no further forward of Rover or at least not fouling anything (engine mounts moved a the front) and then a new (different length prop shaft be made up)?

Perhaps best answered by NZTREV - as he has already done this..

[jellison]

Yep NZ or Boosted. The std is al very well in terms or Torque but pretty crap for power. May have alot more soon (Austed checking my cam today (every thing crossed!) - if just cam then will get a good deal more done - if cam bearings will be thottleing back on spending just to get it back on the road). Need the base LS1 320bhp at least. LS engine really only if Rover goes BANG Big style!