What is this? Is it genuine?
What is this? Is it genuine?
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Stamp

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3,609 posts

252 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Never seen one of these...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1980-TVR-Saiga-True-british-classic-monster_W0QQitemZ4583299765QQcategoryZ108780QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Dodgey_Rog

2,018 posts

276 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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It looks like the Test Mule for the S-Series models. I might be mistaken, but isn't there a coupe model of that as well?

bigtone

1,211 posts

300 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Seems there's at least one other out there:

www.gspovey.demon.co.uk/garage/tvr/gallery/saiga.htm

I've not come across them before either, and this one has a different engine. Seems the one on eBay is an early S derivative?

Not sure on those looks though!

UncleDave

7,155 posts

247 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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I'm watching this one.. might get bidding!

Dave.

griffter

4,141 posts

271 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Rear end looks like a Marcos...

JR

13,114 posts

274 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Dodgey_Rog said:
It looks like the Test Mule for the S-Series models.

bigtone said:
Seems the one on eBay is an early S derivative?

It does look like an S prototype but it's much too early. Simply an M with elongated front and rear. Interesting cars - I wonder what they look like "in the flesh."

Sam_68

9,939 posts

261 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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It was a kit car launched in the 1990's, I believe by ex-TVR personnel, and obviously using the old M-series cars as its basis.

This was in the days when the only cars TVR were producing were 'wedge' series, and these guys obviously thought that there was still a market for the traditional shape.

Didn't make much of an impact even at the time, so I doubt many were sold.

Edited to add:

...and on that basis, no, it isn't genuine any mre than a Cobra replica is a genuine AC/Shelby. It certainly shouln't be wearing TVR badges, and it didn't come out of the factory at Blackpool.

>> Edited by Sam_68 on Monday 17th October 18:39

Derek Smith

47,738 posts

264 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Now there was an SEM Saiga, designed by an ex-TVR engineer, but that dated from 1989, not 80. It was a kit car and the running gear was Cortina with a choice of engines.

I've checked through a few of my mags and can't find a picture although I did find the statement, 'Under the rather unbalanced body . . . ' so it could be the same one.

I suppose it is a genuine SEM and, no doubt, would be interesting to anyone interested in limited production kit cars. i agree with the above - it has not right to be wearing that badge.

>> Edited by Derek Smith on Monday 17th October 20:26

pistolar

1,474 posts

284 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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yuk .... someone burn it

swindorski46

1,017 posts

299 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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To me it looks like a horrible crash between a Marcos, a 911 and an S.

Still, it is rather cheap!

Sam_68

9,939 posts

261 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Derek Smith said:
Now there was an SEM Saiga, designed by an ex-TVR engineer, but that dated from 1989, not 80. It was a kit car and the running gear was Cortina with a choice of engines.

I've checked through a few of my mags and can't find a picture although I did find the statement, 'Under the rather unbalanced body . . . ' so it could be the same one.

I suppose it is a genuine SEM and, no doubt, would be interesting to anyone interested in limited production kit cars. i agree with the above - it has not right to be wearing that badge.


That'll be the bunny - I stand corrected on the date; I was working from memory and guestimated early 1990's, but '89 sounds plausible.

I'm fairly sure I'll have details in my magazine archive, but most of it still lives at my other house in Leeds.

From recollection, the one that featured in the magazines was a cupe, but again I could be wrong - it was a long time ago!

grahamw48

9,944 posts

254 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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That thing is nearly as ugly as a Smart roadster.

RUSSELLM

6,001 posts

263 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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Just noticed the latest bid, £837.37, somebody must have raided their piggy bank, literally.

wedg1e

26,945 posts

281 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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'Somebody' has emailed all the bidders to put them straight...

Terminator

2,421 posts

300 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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Derek Smith said:
Now there was an SEM Saiga, designed by an ex-TVR engineer
The Saiga was built by the two Trevors, Bee and Steptoe of TET Mouldings. It was 'designed' by Joe the Pole and commissioned by the original owners of David Gerald who owned/own the rights to the pre-Wedge stuff.

I saw the red coupe under contruction at TET in 1988 but never saw the convertible. Fortunately, there were no orders for the cars and the world was spared

Roy C

4,202 posts

300 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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Terminator said:

Derek Smith said:
Now there was an SEM Saiga, designed by an ex-TVR engineer

The Saiga was built by the two Trevors, Bee and Steptoe of TET Mouldings. It was 'designed' by Joe the Pole and commissioned by the original owners of David Gerald who owned/own the rights to the pre-Wedge stuff.

I saw the red coupe under contruction at TET in 1988 but never saw the convertible. Fortunately, there were no orders for the cars and the world was spared


It looks like they just took all their scrap stock and stuck it together. Let's hope it returns to being scrap soon.

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

298 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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It is a Saiga but they were not made by TVR. From a fading memory they were an "attempt" (probably the wrong word)to produce a car for those TVR enthusiasts who detested the shape of the Tasmin when it was introduced in 1979. Again from my fading memory Trevor Bee and Terry Steptoe, both ex TVR had set up TET moulding and were repairing and servicing TVR's started the project in Blackpool. They even set up premises but the idea was not a great success and only 2 cars were ever produced, possibly more but I think not.I was actually offered the moulds jigs etc at one point but managed to sesist and I beleive they are still somewhere in Blackpool. Trevor Bee is still running TET mouldings and would probaly be able to give more complete information to any prospective bidder. The car must live only a few miles from here but I have never seen it around. If anyone is serious I may be able to have a quick a quick look round it for you sTeVeR

Terminator

2,421 posts

300 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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thegamekeeper said:
If anyone is serious I may be able to have a quick a quick look round it for you sTeVeR
I'll go halves with you on a gallon of unleaded and a box of matches.



PS. Did you get the email I sent you about 6 weeks ago, Steve?

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

298 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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Hi Colin, its probably soaking wet inside so wont burn. Didn't get your email did you put a stamp on it?

richb

54,236 posts

300 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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Sam_68 said:
It was a kit car launched in the 1990's, I believe by ex-TVR personnel, and obviously using the old M-series cars as its basis. This was in the days when the only cars TVR were producing were 'wedge' series, and these guys obviously thought that there was still a market for the traditional shape.

Not disputing the rough facts but the dates must be wrong, as the S Series cars were launched in 1986, the Tuscan Race series was going in 1989 and the Griffith was first seen at the 1990 Motor Show. All of which were, of course, very curvey! Rich...

p.s. It didn't stand a chance did it, when you could buy a S1/2 from TVR or place an order for a Griff!

>> Edited by richb on Tuesday 18th October 13:41