How many drivers in recruitment
Discussion
MARK450 said:
It's a big ask expecting anyone to admit they're in the field of recruitment - remember these guys are only one rung up from estate agents !
That high ?
I work in recruitment and I'm proud of it. If you value Estate Agents so lowly, why do you use them to buy / sell a house? If you can do a better job than they can then go set up an estate agency and make a fortune.
If all recruitment agents are crap, how do some of them earn a £250k+??!!
I agree that there are a minority of people that drag the perception of the industry down, but that's the same in any industry. What do you do for a living??????!!
All techies are freaks.......................Are they really??
FourWheelDrift said:
It's a big ask expecting anyone to admit they're in the field of recruitment - remember these guys are only one rung up from estate agents !
And two up from contractors
Who are ironically TVR's core market
HH reckoned 75% of their customers were IT bods.
Plotloss said:
It's a big ask expecting anyone to admit they're in the field of recruitment - remember these guys are only one rung up from estate agents !
And two up from contractors
Who are ironically TVR's core market
HH reckoned 75% of their customers were IT bods.
If they're going to HH, then they've obviously got far too much money, and not enough sense!!!
(says an ex-customer that used them for nigh on a year!)
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I work in recruitment and I'm proud of it. If you value Estate Agents so lowly, why do you use them to buy / sell a house? If you can do a better job than they can then go set up an estate agency and make a fortune.
If all recruitment agents are crap, how do some of them earn a £250k+??!!
I agree that there are a minority of people that drag the perception of the industry down, but that's the same in any industry. What do you do for a living??????!!
All techies are freaks.......................Are they really??[/quote]
Oops - hit a raw nerve !. Perhaps it's best I don't send you my CV. However, if you hear of a position going for a cunning linguist, let me know !.
I work in recruitment and I'm proud of it. If you value Estate Agents so lowly, why do you use them to buy / sell a house? If you can do a better job than they can then go set up an estate agency and make a fortune.
If all recruitment agents are crap, how do some of them earn a £250k+??!!
I agree that there are a minority of people that drag the perception of the industry down, but that's the same in any industry. What do you do for a living??????!!
All techies are freaks.......................Are they really??[/quote]
Oops - hit a raw nerve !. Perhaps it's best I don't send you my CV. However, if you hear of a position going for a cunning linguist, let me know !.
I know a recruitment consultant with a Sagaris (absolutely bolted) - think he bought it cash, I wouldnt mind being a couple of quid behind him.
The reason they like TVR's is they want to stand out from the croud - and you can do that in a TVR however, I know another recruitment consultant that purchased a brand new bright red Sagaris, he kept stalling it in the first week and just couldnt drive it and ended up being noticed for the wrong reasons, he sold it whilst his reputation was still slightly in tact - big girls blouse.
>> Edited by shapeshifter on Tuesday 14th February 16:05
The reason they like TVR's is they want to stand out from the croud - and you can do that in a TVR however, I know another recruitment consultant that purchased a brand new bright red Sagaris, he kept stalling it in the first week and just couldnt drive it and ended up being noticed for the wrong reasons, he sold it whilst his reputation was still slightly in tact - big girls blouse.
>> Edited by shapeshifter on Tuesday 14th February 16:05
I work in recruitment and sold my Chim 2 years ago, I miss it everytime the sun shines but other than then it was a complete pain in the ar*e to be parked up in London. I will return to TVR when they produce a car that has solid electrics, doesn't leak and doesn't need 5 minutes of idling to warm through...(oh and some slightly more graceful looks a la Griff, rather than fairground rides).
(Oh and Recruitment has been very good to me so I can't knock it).
(Oh and Recruitment has been very good to me so I can't knock it).
[quote=flyingjaseIf all recruitment agents are crap, how do some of them earn a £250k+??!!
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Before I start this isn't a dig at recruitment consultants (seeing as i may be looking for another job
)
But...
Earning £250k a year does not necessarily mean these guys are are getting people into a job they really want, it just means they are finding alot of people and companies who will accept what they are offered. Granted this is a skill, but to me recruitment should be more about ensuring that the candidates are really as happy as the client. Guess there isn't that much money in that tho.
Buy the way to those who are good recruiters, and I have met a few, I take my hat off to you. Selling is one thing, but selling something that doesn't necessarily want to be sold!.. No thanks
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Before I start this isn't a dig at recruitment consultants (seeing as i may be looking for another job
) But...
Earning £250k a year does not necessarily mean these guys are are getting people into a job they really want, it just means they are finding alot of people and companies who will accept what they are offered. Granted this is a skill, but to me recruitment should be more about ensuring that the candidates are really as happy as the client. Guess there isn't that much money in that tho.
Buy the way to those who are good recruiters, and I have met a few, I take my hat off to you. Selling is one thing, but selling something that doesn't necessarily want to be sold!.. No thanks
Dan said:
[quote=flyingjaseIf all recruitment agents are crap, how do some of them earn a £250k+??!!
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Before I start this isn't a dig at recruitment consultants (seeing as i may be looking for another job
But...
Earning £250k a year does not necessarily mean these guys are are getting people into a job they really want, it just means they are finding alot of people and companies who will accept what they are offered. Granted this is a skill, but to me recruitment should be more about ensuring that the candidates are really as happy as the client. Guess there isn't that much money in that tho.
Buy the way to those who are good recruiters, and I have met a few, I take my hat off to you. Selling is one thing, but selling something that doesn't necessarily want to be sold!.. No thanks
I take your point, however this is a very simplified view of recruitment and more of a 'High Street' approach. Any recruiter that earns £250k would need to be much more consultative than that, and certainly the level of the people he / she is dealing with would not go into a role unless they were 100% happy with it. You can't 'shoehorn' an inteligent professional candidate against their will.
Recruitment at this level is not just a numbers game. It's about building long term relationships and leveraging those relationships. If you try to push someone into a role that's not right for them, how can you expect a mutually beneficially relationship? I'd rather walk away from a deal than place a dud candidate with a client or vice versa.
Granted, there's a mixed bag out there, but those rceuiters that have been in the game pre 9/11 (when lots of recruiters left the industry because it became much much harder to make a living, not a dis-similar situation for some contractiors!) are by & large a professional, deidicated bunch who can literally change your life for the better if you work with. I've previously doubled / trebled my candidate's income in the past - that's life changing!
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