What Spark Plugs
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cjs

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281 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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Standard fitting on a Griff is NGK B7ECS. Are there any better options or is that it! Do any of these multi spark type plugs fit and give better performance?


AntonyJ

5,254 posts

311 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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cjs said:
Standard fitting on a Griff is NGK B7ECS. Are there any better options or is that it! Do any of these multi spark type plugs fit and give better performance?
Pretty sure these are the most suited.
Something to do with suiting the RV8 engine with there burn.

cjs

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281 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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Anyone know the correct Plug gap?

CRE

168 posts

251 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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Its a secret!
Cant have every tom, dick & harry knowing!!!

The plugs will come pre-gapped at .028", its always worth checking them though, however...not sure whether your's is 4.0 or 5.0 cos it does make a differrence!

jamie

Flintstone

8,644 posts

277 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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The gap is different for a 4 or 5? confused

That Daddy

19,450 posts

251 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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NGK plugs come pregapped for this car an unless some burke as dropped them there always spot on.

CaptiV8ted

822 posts

241 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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According to the bible, gap should be 0.8 - 0.9mm

cjs

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11,674 posts

281 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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After closer inspection I have found my 4l pre-cat Griff has NGK B7ES plugs fitted not B7ECS. Does anyone the difference? Other than the cost as the B7ES are a cheaper!

I have contacted NGK and they have given me the following info;


B - refers to the thread dia. 14mm

7 - is the heat rating (2 is hot, 10 is cold)

E - thread length 19mm

C - ?? This is what I can't work out

S - Refers to 'Standard type' ie not Y which has a V-grooved electrode.



So anyone know what the 'C' means.

I'd rather spend £2.40 rather than £3.80 per plug if there is no difference!

cjs

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11,674 posts

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Tuesday 26th June 2007
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I have just received this in the post from NGK.



That Daddy

19,450 posts

251 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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cjs said:
After closer inspection I have found my 4l pre-cat Griff has NGK B7ES plugs fitted not B7ECS. Does anyone the difference? Other than the cost as the B7ES are a cheaper!

I have contacted NGK and they have given me the following info;


B - refers to the thread dia. 14mm

7 - is the heat rating (2 is hot, 10 is cold)

E - thread length 19mm

C - ?? This is what I can't work out

S - Refers to 'Standard type' ie not Y which has a V-grooved electrode.



So anyone know what the 'C' means.

I'd rather spend £2.40 rather than £3.80 per plug if there is no difference!
BP7ES will work fine its only the heat range you need to worry about and those ones are the same,the BP7ES as a slightly protruding tip thats not going to make any difference in the RV8,fit the cheaper ones.

Crazycraig

485 posts

261 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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cjs said:
I'd rather spend £2.40 rather than £3.80 per plug if there is no difference!
Try someone like Partco Autoparts or Camberly Autofactors.

FWIW I normally pay around £1.75 + VAT for B7ECS plugs from Partco.

rev-erend

21,622 posts

314 months

Wednesday 27th June 2007
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I think the C will stand for copper.

TVRleigh

6,553 posts

243 months

Wednesday 27th June 2007
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Does anyone know if the tripple of quad plugs are any better or worse.

cjs

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281 months

Wednesday 27th June 2007
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So a quick update....if your interested!

I have spoken to NGK and looked at the Plugs. The differnce between the B7ECS and the B7ES is as follows.

The ECS has a reinforced ground electrode, it has a 'web' where the electrode meets the main metal casing.

Also the ECS has a chamfer on the inside edge of the casing around the centre electrode. Whether this helps with any gas flow or spark.....who knows.

Other than that I am told by NGK there is no difference and both will work in a TVR RV8.

I have had B7ES fitted in my Griff for the past 4 years with no problems so I have bought 8 new ones at just £1.10 each and saved some money for more petrol!

cjs

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Wednesday 27th June 2007
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TVRleigh said:
Does anyone know if the tripple of quad plugs are any better or worse.
I could not find an equivalent listed.

rev-erend

21,622 posts

314 months

Thursday 28th June 2007
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cjs said:
So a quick update....if your interested!

I have spoken to NGK and looked at the Plugs. The differnce between the B7ECS and the B7ES is as follows.

The ECS has a reinforced ground electrode, it has a 'web' where the electrode meets the main metal casing.

Also the ECS has a chamfer on the inside edge of the casing around the centre electrode. Whether this helps with any gas flow or spark.....who knows.

Other than that I am told by NGK there is no difference and both will work in a TVR RV8.

I have had B7ES fitted in my Griff for the past 4 years with no problems so I have bought 8 new ones at just £1.10 each and saved some money for more petrol!
If that's the case - sounds like we have been robbed.. shoot

That Daddy

19,450 posts

251 months

Thursday 28th June 2007
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rev-erend said:
cjs said:
So a quick update....if your interested!

I have spoken to NGK and looked at the Plugs. The differnce between the B7ECS and the B7ES is as follows.

The ECS has a reinforced ground electrode, it has a 'web' where the electrode meets the main metal casing.

Also the ECS has a chamfer on the inside edge of the casing around the centre electrode. Whether this helps with any gas flow or spark.....who knows.

Other than that I am told by NGK there is no difference and both will work in a TVR RV8.

I have had B7ES fitted in my Griff for the past 4 years with no problems so I have bought 8 new ones at just £1.10 each and saved some money for more petrol!
If that's the case - sounds like we have been robbed.. shoot
Yes you havewink