Blue J 5000CC in reading.
Blue J 5000CC in reading.
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sti5

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154 posts

282 months

Tuesday 28th October 2003
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I was very supprised to get a race with a 500 chim. I've looking at buying a 4.5 chim or a 4.0 Tuscan, so any one i can race to get an idea of the pace of them is good.
This 500 was flat out and my little golf did very well to keep up(yes my golf has been played with a bit), the chim only pulled a bit from me over 80mph and looked a little unsafe on the bends.
I was interested to know who you were cos i havent seen you on my way home before, your the first tvr driver i've seen in ages to really go for it, well done.

Paul

UIL9794

268 posts

271 months

Tuesday 28th October 2003
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If your Golf kept up with a 500 Chim he 'WAS NOT' going flat out. The 500 is a car with a 0-60 time of about 4.2 secs - does your golf have Nit O or is a Chim 500 with a golf body perhaps!

I've often had people pull up alongside at lights hoping for a race, i normally pull away faster than them but not very often flat out - the noise off Chim's draws to much attention of the Bib type to risk doing anything to flat out unless your sure nothing is about.

Perhaps you could take one for a test drive from a dealers if your serious about buying one?

Lee

p7ulg

1,052 posts

306 months

Tuesday 28th October 2003
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sti5 said:
I was very supprised to get a race with a 500 chim. I've looking at buying a 4.5 chim or a 4.0 Tuscan, so any one i can race to get an idea of the pace of them is good.
This 500 was flat out and my little golf did very well to keep up(yes my golf has been played with a bit), the chim only pulled a bit from me over 80mph and looked a little unsafe on the bends.
I was interested to know who you were cos i havent seen you on my way home before, your the first tvr driver i've seen in ages to really go for it, well done.

Paul



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>> Edited by p7ulg on Tuesday 28th October 16:09

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

282 months

Tuesday 28th October 2003
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Why it that so funny? A hot hatch could murder in chimaera if it is slightly damp aining or if the tvr driver isn't very good. The chimaera doesn't inspire confidence when cornering in my experience.

p7ulg

1,052 posts

306 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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m12_nathan said:
Why it that so funny? A hot hatch could murder in chimaera if it is slightly damp
aining or if the tvr driver isn't very good. The chimaera doesn't inspire confidence when cornering in my experience.


Yes and the moon is made out of cheese.By the way raining has an "R" in it.

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

282 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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Raining does indeed have and R in it, this website seems to miss out any slashes and the charactor that follows for some reason.

Ar$e also has an r in it, and that is what you are talking out of When I used to take my race car on track days (a little 1.8 clio) I could walk away from chimaeras through the twisty bits more than they could gain on the straights. If it was raining I can only imagine the gap being bigger.

An average driver in a hot hatch will be quicker than an average driver in a chimaera when the road gets twisty, bumpy, damp or has dodgy cambers.

I'm not saying the hot hatch is a better car, simply that most drivers (myself included) cannot exploit the potential the chimarea has. This is in contrast to other powerful rwd cars I've driven that inspire confidence and urge you to push harder all the time.

p7ulg

1,052 posts

306 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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m12_nathan said:
Ar$e also has an r in it, and that is what you are talking out of When I used to take my race car on track days (a little 1.8 clio) I could walk away from chimaeras through the twisty bits more than they could gain on the straights. If it was raining I can only imagine the gap being bigger.

An average driver in a hot hatch will be quicker than an average driver in a chimaera when the road gets twisty, bumpy, damp or has dodgy cambers.

I'm not saying the hot hatch is a better car, simply that most drivers (myself included) cannot exploit the potential the chimarea has. This is in contrast to other powerful rwd cars I've driven that inspire confidence and urge you to push harder all the time.


Another Walter Mitty

UIL9794

268 posts

271 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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So your saying that an average driver in both cars but one car has 240Bhp and weighs 1010kgs approx and the warm hatch has 190-200bhp and weighs 1200-1400kgs and that will be quicker. Think again, maybe some one should have mentioned to Ron Dennis for example to drop some bhp, add some weight, move the engine and drive to the front, raise the suspension, fit narrower tyres, shape the car like a brick and his team would have worked away with the F1 Title........why oh why didn't he realise.

Otter toss

mojorider

235 posts

282 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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I have a 450 and just love boy racers in their max power body kit toys riding up my arse. A quick down shift and a bit of right foot and they become specs in the mirror.

The only real problem in the twisty bits is if a lotus is close, then I loose. Once the road opens they just fade away.

So can't beleive the 500 was using warp drive, just impulse power.

chimhunter

906 posts

272 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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If it is wet a traction controlled FWD, sorted hot-hatch will walk away from a non-traction controlled, high-power, high-torque, less stable RWD car like a Chim, particulary around the corners. No discussion.

In the dry it will probably be positions reversed.

The real point though is who wants to drive a car that looks like peoples mum's, and who wants to drive a car that people look at, hear coming from miles down the road and looks fantastic with the roof down.

EOS

Rob

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

282 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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Chimhunter - at least you get where I am coming from. Why do people take it as a personal insult?

In my second car (a golf hatch back) I would fancy my chances on a twisty road, especially if it was raining or damp.

mojorider

235 posts

282 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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I would not race in the rain even with 4wd, value life too much.

I would say most of it is down to the driver, I bet Montoya could take me even if he was in a Micra

p7ulg

1,052 posts

306 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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m12_nathan said:
Chimhunter - at least you get where I am coming from. Why do people take it as a personal insult?

In my second car (a golf hatch back) I would fancy my chances on a twisty road, especially if it was raining or damp.


Ar$e also has an r in it, and that is what you are talking out of

Actually thats why people take it as a personal insult!

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

282 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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I wasn't refering to that, which was a direct response to your very grown up dig. I was referring to the fact that some people seem to take it as a personnal insult when someone suggests that they may not actually have the fastest car in the universe.

funinthesun

1,170 posts

288 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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going back to the original post, no way that anything of the hatchback variety, will comfortably keep up with a 500 driven in a straight line in anger...

If a 911( non turbo) gets blown away in a straight line, are you seriously saying that a hot hatch is faster that a 911??? no..

He either wasnt trying or was playing with you...I've had hot hatches, turbos and a 500, not even close....

-stepsbacksandwaitsforthebacklash-



>> Edited by funinthesun on Wednesday 29th October 16:32

chimhunter

906 posts

272 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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m12_nathan said:
Something sensible


Exactly. I bought my Chim for the noise, performance, 'image' and prestige. If I only wanted performance I would have bought something like a Clio Cup. And some NOs.

So what if someone in a hot hatch can keep up? No one will be looking at them.

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

282 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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exactly.

funinthesun

1,170 posts

288 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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half term again is it...

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

282 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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It might be, I don't know as I don't have children. If you think that I am of a school going age then you are wrong.

funinthesun

1,170 posts

288 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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...and people say Germans don’t have a sense of humour...