New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)
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Jon39 said:
Indeed.
Some recent figures showed a particular recent time period, during which BYD sold more battery cars than Tesla.
Expect you know that BYD are now serious about the UK market. 1,611 sold Jan to Apr this year (up from 63 in the same period 2023).
I fear a Chinese determination to dominate the world of EVs. They can of course if they wish, subsidise prices until the competitors are knocked out. Remember what happened to the British motor cycle industry. Tricky to apply import tariffs though, because the West exports to China.
GeneralBanter said:
It had its first MOT May 23, that’s not been renewed. How do you deduce there is more than one Griffith when all that’s happened is it went from Jan to May 23 without an MOT as it wasn’t on the road??
Sorry if I did not make my point clear.
On the DVLA records, you see the (UK69 TVR) Date of manufacture is 2019.
Therefore, before the TVR Griffith was even manufactured, a completed TVR Griffith was magically unveiled at Goodwood in 2017.
This is where the jokes begin. Perhaps there was a time machine involved,. Possibly people at the DVLA did not read about the car being in existence 2 years, before it was (supposedly) manufactured. As in all the best magic tricks, you think there is one object, when actually there are two. Think cups and balls, with apparently three balls, then an orange appears from under a cup.
There is a time-lapse video showing the Griffith assembly by Gordon Murray Automotive. That video might reveal a date, which I guess would be 2016 or 2017.
Jon39 said:
Sorry if I did not make my point clear.
On the DVLA records, you see the (UK69 TVR) Date of manufacture is 2019.
Therefore, before the TVR Griffith was even manufactured, a completed TVR Griffith was magically unveiled at Goodwood in 2017.
This is where the jokes begin. Perhaps there was a time machine involved,. Possibly people at the DVLA did not read about the car being in existence 2 years, before it was (supposedly) manufactured. As in all the best magic tricks, you think there is one object, when actually there are two. Think cups and balls, with apparently three balls, then an orange appears from under a cup.
There is a time-lapse video showing the Griffith assembly by Gordon Murray Automotive. That video might reveal a date, which I guess would be 2016 or 2017.
Jon39 said:
Sorry if I did not make my point clear.
On the DVLA records, you see the (UK69 TVR) Date of manufacture is 2019.
Therefore, before the TVR Griffith was even manufactured, a completed TVR Griffith was magically unveiled at Goodwood in 2017.
This is where the jokes begin. Perhaps there was a time machine involved,. Possibly people at the DVLA did not read about the car being in existence 2 years, before it was (supposedly) manufactured. As in all the best magic tricks, you think there is one object, when actually there are two. Think cups and balls, with apparently three balls, then an orange appears from under a cup.
There is a time-lapse video showing the Griffith assembly by Gordon Murray Automotive. That video might reveal a date, which I guess would be 2016 or 2017.
The Three D Mucketeer said:
unrepentant said:
Biden just slapped a 100% tariff on all EV's from China. It's largely symbolic because BYD don't sell over here but it shows a determination to keep them out.
Don't you miss "God's Own Country" Paul ? but I forgot you've got Bidden & Trump instead 
I get back most years and after that first sip of Black Sheep or Theakston's it's like I never left. The barrister who bought my house has converted one of the outbuildings into a very nice holiday let so if I get really homesick...
No too many TVR's here. In fact the last one I saw on the road was the 280i Tasmin that I bought and sold about 10 years ago. It's now down in Florida.
Jon39 said:
Sorry if I did not make my point clear.
On the DVLA records, you see the (UK69 TVR) Date of manufacture is 2019.
Therefore, before the TVR Griffith was even manufactured, a completed TVR Griffith was magically unveiled at Goodwood in 2017.
This is where the jokes begin. Perhaps there was a time machine involved,. Possibly people at the DVLA did not read about the car being in existence 2 years, before it was (supposedly) manufactured. As in all the best magic tricks, you think there is one object, when actually there are two. Think cups and balls, with apparently three balls, then an orange appears from under a cup.
There is a time-lapse video showing the Griffith assembly by Gordon Murray Automotive. That video might reveal a date, which I guess would be 2016 or 2017.
The Three D Mucketeer said:
Whoever said it had "completed manufacture" in 2017 at Goodwood ? Do you know? All we know is was registered in 2020 and completed the appropriate test certificates in 2019.
I think you might find a video featuring a YouTube 'influencer' (might have been Shmee), being given a ride in the Griffith driven by Les Edgar. That was at an early stage on private roads. It appeared then to be a completed car, which drove under V8 power.
At the 2017 Goodwood unveiling, Shmee was there and so pleased to have managed to successfully secure an early place on the order list.
I don't mind when the car was built, but it just seemed peculiar, that thousands of people are convinced they saw it, two years before it was manufactured.
The end.
Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 14th May 20:59
GeneralBanter said:
It wasn’t on the road until 2020 and they declared it had been manufactured in 2019. Are you into chemtrails? ??
It was on French roads in 2018 or 2019 as there were pictures of it being driven around the square in front of the Le Mans hotel that one of the directors owns. It was also in Holland in 2019.The video taken here was in Murray design's car park but the car looks to be complete and finished (don't know about ABS/airbag testing). That was in September 2017. What TVR declare and what is reality do not necessarily align.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX8s0Oc8omU
Viper201 said:
It was on French roads in 2018 or 2019 as there were pictures of it being driven around the square in front of the Le Mans hotel that one of the directors owns. It was also in Holland in 2019.
The video taken here was in Murray design's car park but the car looks to be complete and finished (don't know about ABS/airbag testing). That was in September 2017. What TVR declare and what is reality do not necessarily align.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX8s0Oc8omU
Yes I was at Le Mans that year, it was trailered down and it’s was a bit of a ‘joke’ that it was being used to piss about in while not registered although the trailer was never far away It also took part in the Friday Parade through the streets but there was also a log with a lawnmower engine as clearly anything goes. The video taken here was in Murray design's car park but the car looks to be complete and finished (don't know about ABS/airbag testing). That was in September 2017. What TVR declare and what is reality do not necessarily align.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX8s0Oc8omU
Yes, TVR swung the lead on it’s validity, maybe even got it registered as a prototype or something - but there is enough smoke and mirrors with TVR already without some utterly daft Conspiracy Theory that this all points to there being two Griffiths !!!
GeneralBanter said:
- but there is enough smoke and mirrors with TVR already without some utterly daft Conspiracy Theory that this all points to there being two Griffiths !!!
Most PHers must have realised that was a joke. A combination of evidence and a magic trick technique of one extra.
There are a few people though, where humour bypass surgery has been particularly successful.
Prototype/Development cars are registered in the normal way, but in recent years many parts of the information are hidden from public view. You used to be able to enter the reg of a spy shot car in to the DVLA website and see engine size etc. All (almost) development cars are scrapped after the testing has been completed.
I suppose paying multi £millions for Gordon Murray Automotive to build a second Griffith, would at least enable one customer order to be honoured. TVR Griffith Revival Launch Final Limited Edition (the RLFLE version. Could even be construed as RLF Les Edgar).
Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 15th May 08:29
The Three D Mucketeer said:
I suspect the manufactured date reflects the date it received IVA approval , without that they wouldn't have been able to register it.
I’d believe that to be correct. Nothing to see here officer.
What the heck has manufacture/ registry dates got to do with anyone unless you own the car.
What does it matter anymore than the mot history.
Let’s just remember deposits have always been handed back and no member of the public has been left high and dry by this companies attempt at launching a car manufacturing business or at least few if anyone has come on here to suggest otherwise.
So that leaves a chap with one car that’s probably cost way more than it’s worth and no mot. Give the guy a break ffs.
I’d have thought many Tvr people would empathise with his situation
Yet to hand back the people of Wales their large sum of money though (the clowns in the Sennedd are equally guilty for giving it out in the first place), or apologised to those in the area given false hope about employment he heralded at the time, even sponsoring the local rugby team simply for publicity.
Clearly there was only ever one car built, its way older than the claimed manufacturer date as we all know.
Clearly there was only ever one car built, its way older than the claimed manufacturer date as we all know.
BritishTvr450 said:
So that leaves a chap with one car that’s probably cost way more than it’s worth and no mot.
No, it belongs to the creditors.And since Viper always reports on company matters, did he report on the fact that the registered offices for all the companies appear to have been changed from the Dorking address to a solicitors firm address? Is the Dorking address no more?
LucyP said:
No, it belongs to the creditors.
And since Viper always reports on company matters, did he report on the fact that the registered offices for all the companies appear to have been changed from the Dorking address to a solicitors firm address? Is the Dorking address no more?
Yep, posted the change of registered address on here - 19th April. And since Viper always reports on company matters, did he report on the fact that the registered offices for all the companies appear to have been changed from the Dorking address to a solicitors firm address? Is the Dorking address no more?
Don't know about the showroom at Dorking. Peter used to be the man to tell us as he lives very close to it but he hasn't been on here for a while.
Viper201 said:
TVR Thunderbolt and TVR Spitfire are also now registered at the solicitors address.
Seems only companies that start with TVR have moved as the others have not changed.
Shouldn't the names have been TVR Thunderbolt and TVR Lightning, if Les wanted them to be very very frightening?Seems only companies that start with TVR have moved as the others have not changed.
Shwoing my age and taste in music again
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