Awesome Tuscan R - OH YES!
Discussion
Just read the Tuscan R at Le Mans article in this month's Evo - buy it. The pics of the car are so good that I've had to change my personal contribution to the most beautiful cars ever. My original list:
The new Tuscan R goes in at No. 2 for me - it looked good on earlier pictures but is frankly breathtaking.
The review itself is very promising, a few quotes to get the juices flowing
"Just 200 miles into the test, I already know this is easily the best GT car that TVR has ever built."
"Cornering speeds are sensational - Tuscan R finds almost 911-like traction out of tight turns."
"It's incredibly tempting to throw caution to the wind and just max it all the way. I try to resist - surely it must be crawling with Gendarmes today of all days - and I'm doing alright to begin with until a Ferrari 355 blasts past while I'm doodling along at 110mph. The road's still empty and straight. Oh God, it's no good. I drop it into fourth and start to reel him in while, over in the passenger seat, Chris goes suddenly quiet. The Ferrari is really shifting but I'm into fifth and we're starting to close the gap. There's a bend approaching and I think he's starting to lift - yep, a momentary flash of brake lights - but there's no lifting going on in the Tuscan, just throttle down and staying down as we eat him up through the fast left-hand sweeper just like he's standing still.
It's the best demonstration you could have of what makes this car so special - we're doing over 160mph and there's no way you'd have the confidence to do that in any other TVR. The Tuscan R now combines the incredible performance TVRs have always had in abundance but with a chassis capable of using it to the full."
I'm really hoping that this is the car that is finally going to propel TVR into the elite of the world's most desirable manufacturers. I know I want one so badly it hurts!
roadsweeper.
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My top ten, in order!
1. Aston Martin Vanquish - approaches perfection.
2. Aston Martin DB7 Vantage - not so good to drive, but beautiful!
3. TVR Tuscan S (in black) - do cars come any meaner? Also has the best interior in the world IMO.
4. McLaren F1 LM - beauty through functional design.
5. Aston Martin DB5 - don't need to say anything about this one.
6. Ferrari 355 - makes the 360 look crass.
7. Ferrari F40 - another beauty through functional design.
8. Porsche Carrera GT - not in production yet but is a mean looker.
9. TVR Chimaera - I have one so am biased, but it is stunning.
10. Lamborghini Murcielago - might not be able to spell it, but it's a stunning piece of design!
The new Tuscan R goes in at No. 2 for me - it looked good on earlier pictures but is frankly breathtaking.
The review itself is very promising, a few quotes to get the juices flowing
"Just 200 miles into the test, I already know this is easily the best GT car that TVR has ever built."
"Cornering speeds are sensational - Tuscan R finds almost 911-like traction out of tight turns."
"It's incredibly tempting to throw caution to the wind and just max it all the way. I try to resist - surely it must be crawling with Gendarmes today of all days - and I'm doing alright to begin with until a Ferrari 355 blasts past while I'm doodling along at 110mph. The road's still empty and straight. Oh God, it's no good. I drop it into fourth and start to reel him in while, over in the passenger seat, Chris goes suddenly quiet. The Ferrari is really shifting but I'm into fifth and we're starting to close the gap. There's a bend approaching and I think he's starting to lift - yep, a momentary flash of brake lights - but there's no lifting going on in the Tuscan, just throttle down and staying down as we eat him up through the fast left-hand sweeper just like he's standing still.
It's the best demonstration you could have of what makes this car so special - we're doing over 160mph and there's no way you'd have the confidence to do that in any other TVR. The Tuscan R now combines the incredible performance TVRs have always had in abundance but with a chassis capable of using it to the full."
I'm really hoping that this is the car that is finally going to propel TVR into the elite of the world's most desirable manufacturers. I know I want one so badly it hurts!
roadsweeper.
Matt: Sorry to hear about the Fester! 
At least you got out OK though. Don't joke about me getting a Tuscan R - I badly want one now! 
I'm looking at starting a company with my brother and a mate in the next few months so if all goes well I might take the plunge next year. It's a long time since I've wanted a car this badly (last time was a McLaren F1 LM - only five made and made the standard McLaren F1 look a bit slow - but that was a mite too expensive )
gazzab: I know what you mean about the Cerbera, but the Chimaera looks awesome with the top down. However, with the top up the Chimaera is definitely not a match for the Cerbera. So many beautiful TVRs, so little room in my top ten!
REV-EREND: Good luck to the bloke - anyone know him? (Not that I'm planning to mug him and nick his keys once he takes delivery or anything!
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At least you got out OK though. Don't joke about me getting a Tuscan R - I badly want one now! I'm looking at starting a company with my brother and a mate in the next few months so if all goes well I might take the plunge next year. It's a long time since I've wanted a car this badly (last time was a McLaren F1 LM - only five made and made the standard McLaren F1 look a bit slow - but that was a mite too expensive ) gazzab: I know what you mean about the Cerbera, but the Chimaera looks awesome with the top down. However, with the top up the Chimaera is definitely not a match for the Cerbera. So many beautiful TVRs, so little room in my top ten!
REV-EREND: Good luck to the bloke - anyone know him? (Not that I'm planning to mug him and nick his keys once he takes delivery or anything!
)I meant to mention by the way, and this is quite scary, the Tuscan R they were testing only had 390bhp instead of 440bhp and the standard 5-speed 'box instead of the 6-speed sequential unit... 
As for the colour - black would be truly evil though I'd like to see it in the carbon first. The colour in the magazine looks amazing but it is probably totally different before the magazine printers have corrupted it. Orange with black wheels would be very nice too.
I just keep imagining being able to destroy Porsches and Ferraris on both the straights and the corners, and knowing you paid less for your motor too! The only thing that would probably beat it would be a Pagani Zonda C12/C12S, that 700bhp Edonis, the forthcoming Ferrari F60 or a Big Mac - however, I think the cheapest one of that lot is about a quarter of a million! (An Ultima Can Am would probably take it too, but that's more a race car than even the Tuscan R and certainly can't seat 4 people as far as I know!)
Roll on TVR!
roadsweeper.
As for the colour - black would be truly evil though I'd like to see it in the carbon first. The colour in the magazine looks amazing but it is probably totally different before the magazine printers have corrupted it. Orange with black wheels would be very nice too.
I just keep imagining being able to destroy Porsches and Ferraris on both the straights and the corners, and knowing you paid less for your motor too! The only thing that would probably beat it would be a Pagani Zonda C12/C12S, that 700bhp Edonis, the forthcoming Ferrari F60 or a Big Mac - however, I think the cheapest one of that lot is about a quarter of a million! (An Ultima Can Am would probably take it too, but that's more a race car than even the Tuscan R and certainly can't seat 4 people as far as I know!)
Roll on TVR!
roadsweeper.
Hi frostie
Fair point about the LCD display, but even if what gpb says was wrong the tester actually comments that he never uses it as the tachometer LED's provide all the information you would normally need.
As for the 355 vs Tamora (congrats on owning both BTW!), I couldn't comment as I haven't driven a Tamora. I have however driven an F355 on a race track and I suspect you are probably correct about the handling of the Ferrari being better. I am very surprised to hear that you think the ride is better though as the Tamora is renowned for being softly-sprung and the F355 was definitely on the firm side.
You say that you are concerned about the £75k price tag and whether it is really £25k better than a Tuscan S. It sounds to me as though it is. You get a six-speed sequential box (agree with your wish to have it made available on other TVR models!) an engine putting out well over 100bhp/tonne, carbon fibre body, 4 seats, a 100% increase in torsional rigidity and a substantial increase in straight line performance. This for me justifies the price increase, with the caveat that build quality and reliability must improve over preceding models, particularly, as you say, where the engine is concerned.
I think it is more valid to ask whether the Ferrari 360 is really worth approx. £35k more than the TVR Tuscan R or the Porsche 911 Turbo £15k (is that right?) more? It seems likely that if the Tuscan R can genuinely paste an F355, all other things being equal, then it's likely to be able to paste a F360 too. In that case you have to assess the Ferrari on factors other than outright performance (acceleration, top speed and cornering ability). So, looks from the outside? For me the Tuscan R blows away the F360. On the inside? Same again. Exclusivity? Same again. Badge? Ferrari win that one undoubtedly. Engineering integrity? Probably Ferrari.
So, if I had £75k to spend on a car (not there yet but I'm only 24 so there's time!) what would I spend it on. Well, so far my money is on the Tuscan R. IMO it looks better inside and out and will undoubtedly have vastly superior straight line performance and top speed. If relability is up to scratch and the handling is as good as it sounds then I honestly can't see why anyone would pay £35k more for a new Ferrari 360 or roughly the same for a used F355, other than because of the badge.
On the negative side, I was a little disappointed to see that the 1000kg weight target had not been met (light weight is always a massive advantage) and I doubt the 440bhp target will be met, so the power-to-weight ratio won't be as good as was originally foreseen. However, I think I'm nit-picking there really.
Also, disappointed to read the review of the Tamora on the track car article. <3 secs quicker then the Civic Type R was pathetic - come on TVR, sort it out!
Just so you know, I do like Ferraris and have the F355 as one of my top 10 most beautiful cars, so I'm not a blind-to-anything-else TVR fanatic (well maybe a bit!).
roadsweeper.
Fair point about the LCD display, but even if what gpb says was wrong the tester actually comments that he never uses it as the tachometer LED's provide all the information you would normally need.
As for the 355 vs Tamora (congrats on owning both BTW!), I couldn't comment as I haven't driven a Tamora. I have however driven an F355 on a race track and I suspect you are probably correct about the handling of the Ferrari being better. I am very surprised to hear that you think the ride is better though as the Tamora is renowned for being softly-sprung and the F355 was definitely on the firm side.
You say that you are concerned about the £75k price tag and whether it is really £25k better than a Tuscan S. It sounds to me as though it is. You get a six-speed sequential box (agree with your wish to have it made available on other TVR models!
) an engine putting out well over 100bhp/tonne, carbon fibre body, 4 seats, a 100% increase in torsional rigidity and a substantial increase in straight line performance. This for me justifies the price increase, with the caveat that build quality and reliability must improve over preceding models, particularly, as you say, where the engine is concerned. I think it is more valid to ask whether the Ferrari 360 is really worth approx. £35k more than the TVR Tuscan R or the Porsche 911 Turbo £15k (is that right?) more? It seems likely that if the Tuscan R can genuinely paste an F355, all other things being equal, then it's likely to be able to paste a F360 too. In that case you have to assess the Ferrari on factors other than outright performance (acceleration, top speed and cornering ability). So, looks from the outside? For me the Tuscan R blows away the F360. On the inside? Same again. Exclusivity? Same again. Badge? Ferrari win that one undoubtedly. Engineering integrity? Probably Ferrari.
So, if I had £75k to spend on a car (not there yet but I'm only 24 so there's time!
) what would I spend it on. Well, so far my money is on the Tuscan R. IMO it looks better inside and out and will undoubtedly have vastly superior straight line performance and top speed. If relability is up to scratch and the handling is as good as it sounds then I honestly can't see why anyone would pay £35k more for a new Ferrari 360 or roughly the same for a used F355, other than because of the badge. On the negative side, I was a little disappointed to see that the 1000kg weight target had not been met (light weight is always a massive advantage) and I doubt the 440bhp target will be met, so the power-to-weight ratio won't be as good as was originally foreseen. However, I think I'm nit-picking there really.
Also, disappointed to read the review of the Tamora on the track car article. <3 secs quicker then the Civic Type R was pathetic - come on TVR, sort it out!
Just so you know, I do like Ferraris and have the F355 as one of my top 10 most beautiful cars, so I'm not a blind-to-anything-else TVR fanatic (well maybe a bit!).
roadsweeper.
Alex: You don't hammerite 28mm aluminium honeycomb panelling! (That's what the Tuscan R uses for smooth airflow under the car so chassis, etc., should be protected in the main).
Anyway, I don't think I'd like to pay £110k for a car (e.g. Ferrari 360)and then get p!ssed on in almost every way by something that cost far less. Come on, be honest, it would bother most of us.
Of course, all this is assuming that the car really is as good as the early signs are indicating. Fingers crossed, because if it isn't TVR are going to lose face. Badly.
roadsweeper.
(That's what the Tuscan R uses for smooth airflow under the car so chassis, etc., should be protected in the main). Anyway, I don't think I'd like to pay £110k for a car (e.g. Ferrari 360)and then get p!ssed on in almost every way by something that cost far less. Come on, be honest, it would bother most of us.
Of course, all this is assuming that the car really is as good as the early signs are indicating. Fingers crossed, because if it isn't TVR are going to lose face. Badly.
roadsweeper.
MikeE: I think (and hope!) that you are wrong about that. £90k is getting really serious as it's the same price as a new 996 Porsche 911 Turbo. Even with the extra performance, etc., as discussed earlier, that's going to be tricky for TVR due to badge snobbery.
I'll re-read the article when I get home and see if it clears up this issue.
roadsweeper.
I'll re-read the article when I get home and see if it clears up this issue.
roadsweeper.
Hi Mark
Excellent point regarding the comparisons with the 355 and 360 being good for TVR. But, like you say, if the car proves unreliable they are going to look very bad. But, and it's a big 'but', if the car is as good as the Evo article make it sounds and is reliable then it has the comparable Ferraris and Porsches licked on looks (obviously an individual opinion), value and performance.
I am definitely concerned about an engine that has been extremely unreliable in the past (though I believe it is better now?) being even more highly tuned. Like you say, lets hope!
Would be very interested to hear what TVR have to say about the £75k spec!
roadsweeper.
Excellent point regarding the comparisons with the 355 and 360 being good for TVR. But, like you say, if the car proves unreliable they are going to look very bad. But, and it's a big 'but', if the car is as good as the Evo article make it sounds and is reliable then it has the comparable Ferraris and Porsches licked on looks (obviously an individual opinion), value and performance.
I am definitely concerned about an engine that has been extremely unreliable in the past (though I believe it is better now?) being even more highly tuned. Like you say, lets hope!
Would be very interested to hear what TVR have to say about the £75k spec!
roadsweeper.
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HOWEVER, putting my cynical hat on for a second, EVO mentioned that car is just a couple of months away from production. In that case WHY was the car featured lacking the sequential 6-speed 'box and uprated engine?
The same thought had occured to me. The same comment goes for the wobbly doors and mirrors.
Hi derestrictor
First off, please don't get me wrong, I am a MASSIVE TVR fan - I own a Chimaera 400 and hope to get a Tuscan S next year, despite the worries over reliability! I'm also fiercely patriotic and am desperate to see TVR do well against Ferrari, Porsche and the like, as I suspect are many people on these boards. This is the reason I'm so concerned - I just want them to do well so I'm worried that they might get it wrong and damage their growing repuation.
As for your points regarding motorsport, etc. Of course you are right to a large extent. However, if the Tuscan R is as good as it sounds like it could be then it will be a huge boon for TVR and perhaps the start of them taking the fight to the opposition?....
I do think Peter Wheeler deserves a Knighthood far more than the likes of Mick Jagger, but I still don't agree with the current model range he has - I think the compete with each other too much.
Lets not forget that at the end of the day, TVR indisputably produce some of the most beautiful, inside and out, cars ever made. If they can can combine this with great handling and reliability they are surely going to be recognised as one of the great brands. For me, they're getting there already!
roadsweeper.
First off, please don't get me wrong, I am a MASSIVE TVR fan - I own a Chimaera 400 and hope to get a Tuscan S next year, despite the worries over reliability! I'm also fiercely patriotic and am desperate to see TVR do well against Ferrari, Porsche and the like, as I suspect are many people on these boards. This is the reason I'm so concerned - I just want them to do well so I'm worried that they might get it wrong and damage their growing repuation.
As for your points regarding motorsport, etc. Of course you are right to a large extent. However, if the Tuscan R is as good as it sounds like it could be then it will be a huge boon for TVR and perhaps the start of them taking the fight to the opposition?....
I do think Peter Wheeler deserves a Knighthood far more than the likes of Mick Jagger, but I still don't agree with the current model range he has - I think the compete with each other too much.
Lets not forget that at the end of the day, TVR indisputably produce some of the most beautiful, inside and out, cars ever made. If they can can combine this with great handling and reliability they are surely going to be recognised as one of the great brands. For me, they're getting there already!
roadsweeper.
roadrunner: Fair point, but see my earlier post in this thread:
I think that's one of the things that has got everyone so excited - i.e. the hope that the chassis will be a match for the awesom performance.
Regarding the engines, it's as much the fact that they seem to be using so many different variants on their basic AJP design as them actually building their own engines that seems to be causing the problems. Also, ultimately if they are going to be a true supercar manufacturer building their own engines is going to be seen as important - at the heart of every great car lies a great engine. (Just don't mention the Lotus Elise) I suspect if there was a manufacturer of great British engines TVR would have been willing to use them as they did with Rover. However, ridiculously, there are none, so rather than use a non-British make PW went for bespoke engines. I think it could prove to be a good move in the long run, though if Rover start building incredible V8s and straight six engines there could be a change of heart!
roadsweeper.
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"Cornering speeds are sensational - Tuscan R finds almost 911-like traction out of tight turns."
"It's incredibly tempting to throw caution to the wind and just max it all the way. I try to resist - surely it must be crawling with Gendarmes today of all days - and I'm doing alright to begin with until a Ferrari 355 blasts past while I'm doodling along at 110mph. The road's still empty and straight. Oh God, it's no good. I drop it into fourth and start to reel him in while, over in the passenger seat, Chris goes suddenly quiet. The Ferrari is really shifting but I'm into fifth and we're starting to close the gap. There's a bend approaching and I think he's starting to lift - yep, a momentary flash of brake lights - but there's no lifting going on in the Tuscan, just throttle down and staying down as we eat him up through the fast left-hand sweeper just like he's standing still.
It's the best demonstration you could have of what makes this car so special - we're doing over 160mph and there's no way you'd have the confidence to do that in any other TVR. The Tuscan R now combines the incredible performance TVRs have always had in abundance but with a chassis capable of using it to the full."
I think that's one of the things that has got everyone so excited - i.e. the hope that the chassis will be a match for the awesom performance.
Regarding the engines, it's as much the fact that they seem to be using so many different variants on their basic AJP design as them actually building their own engines that seems to be causing the problems. Also, ultimately if they are going to be a true supercar manufacturer building their own engines is going to be seen as important - at the heart of every great car lies a great engine. (Just don't mention the Lotus Elise
) I suspect if there was a manufacturer of great British engines TVR would have been willing to use them as they did with Rover. However, ridiculously, there are none, so rather than use a non-British make PW went for bespoke engines. I think it could prove to be a good move in the long run, though if Rover start building incredible V8s and straight six engines there could be a change of heart! roadsweeper.
Hi derestrictor!
Awesome isn't it?!! Glad you've read the article so it doesn't sound like I am going on about nothing!
I too noticed the welds on the inside and thought something could have been done about that. Too be honest, a good weld can look impressive, and I'm not saying that just because I have an engineering degree - just look at the deliberately exposed robot welds on the current sports bikes. The only problem is, if they're going to be on show they have to be perfect. Otherwise, they need to be covered up with something. Maybe a walnut panel or carbon fibre lookalike stick back plastic? What do you reckon?
Regarding the whipping of the 355 I suspect a combination of factors including a superior driver in the Tuscan R, but don't forget that the Tuscan R has a massive power-to-weight ratio advantage and probably superior grip to the Ferrari looking at the size of those tyres!
Ultimately, I guess we'll have to wait a couple of months to see what really emerges from the factory, but if it's as good as it looks then I WANT ONE!
griff2be: I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but I don't know how anyone can think the Tuscan R is ugly! Still, you obviously like the Griffith so your tastecan't be that bad!
roadsweeper.
Awesome isn't it?!! Glad you've read the article so it doesn't sound like I am going on about nothing!
I too noticed the welds on the inside and thought something could have been done about that. Too be honest, a good weld can look impressive, and I'm not saying that just because I have an engineering degree - just look at the deliberately exposed robot welds on the current sports bikes. The only problem is, if they're going to be on show they have to be perfect. Otherwise, they need to be covered up with something. Maybe a walnut panel or carbon fibre lookalike stick back plastic? What do you reckon?
Regarding the whipping of the 355 I suspect a combination of factors including a superior driver in the Tuscan R, but don't forget that the Tuscan R has a massive power-to-weight ratio advantage and probably superior grip to the Ferrari looking at the size of those tyres!
Ultimately, I guess we'll have to wait a couple of months to see what really emerges from the factory, but if it's as good as it looks then I WANT ONE!
griff2be: I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but I don't know how anyone can think the Tuscan R is ugly! Still, you obviously like the Griffith so your tastecan't be that bad!
roadsweeper.
I know what you mean derestrictor!
Did anybody notice the editor's comments at the start of Evo? He actually says that Meaden (who is the boss at Evo and seems to really know his stuff) told him he would rather have the Tuscan R than an F40 and keep the extra £75k. WTF?!!?!?!?!?! The F40 was a dream for me as a young lad and I've lost count of the number of times I've heard it described as 'the most exciting car ever', or 'a legend', etc. etc. etc. This is really what worries me I suppose - it just sounds too good to be true! But lets hope it is, because if it is I'm going to be trying to buy one in about two years time!
Being a member of the 'I've got 400bhp/tonne' club would be damn good. But being a member of the 'I've got 400bhp/tonne club and I can use it all and my car cost less than yours' would be even better!
I say again, if anyone considers themselves to be a TVR fan then buy this months Evo - the pics alone are worth it. If you can't stretch to that then read it in WHSmiths or something!
roadsweeper.
Did anybody notice the editor's comments at the start of Evo? He actually says that Meaden (who is the boss at Evo and seems to really know his stuff) told him he would rather have the Tuscan R than an F40 and keep the extra £75k. WTF?!!?!?!?!?! The F40 was a dream for me as a young lad and I've lost count of the number of times I've heard it described as 'the most exciting car ever', or 'a legend', etc. etc. etc. This is really what worries me I suppose - it just sounds too good to be true! But lets hope it is, because if it is I'm going to be trying to buy one in about two years time!
Being a member of the 'I've got 400bhp/tonne' club would be damn good. But being a member of the 'I've got 400bhp/tonne club and I can use it all and my car cost less than yours' would be even better!
I say again, if anyone considers themselves to be a TVR fan then buy this months Evo - the pics alone are worth it. If you can't stretch to that then read it in WHSmiths or something!
roadsweeper.
I wondered why they didn't use the 4.5 litre AJP8 from the Cerbie myself since they have made so many modificatons. That could produce 450-500bhp with more torque. Still lets give the car a chance eh!?
I still want to see a Cerbie R with 600bhp and a Tamora R with 450bhp though!
On the wider engine issue, I would like to see if they are improving reliability and if so by how much. If it looks like they can get things sorted as their experience increases then fair play to them. Otherwise it might be wiser to either buy in engines from a UK-based 3rd party modifier (e.g. Lotus, etc.) or, if it's worth it, have the AJP engines worked over by an outside party, again a good example would be Lotus, to improve their reliability. They would learn a lot more from this as well as retaining their bespoke engines. Any opinions?
roadsweeper.
I still want to see a Cerbie R with 600bhp and a Tamora R with 450bhp though!
On the wider engine issue, I would like to see if they are improving reliability and if so by how much. If it looks like they can get things sorted as their experience increases then fair play to them. Otherwise it might be wiser to either buy in engines from a UK-based 3rd party modifier (e.g. Lotus, etc.) or, if it's worth it, have the AJP engines worked over by an outside party, again a good example would be Lotus, to improve their reliability. They would learn a lot more from this as well as retaining their bespoke engines. Any opinions?
roadsweeper.
What do you mean by 'engine misuse' exactly?
My first thoughts would be that you mean not correctly running the engine in, failings in maintenance (e.g. not following the service schedule, not checking the oil, etc.) or 'abuse in use' such as high revs when cold or using cr@p fuel.
If the above are correct then I am confident that the majority of Cerbera owners haven't mis-treated their vehicle in this kind of way, and yet I have heard a number of bad stories about the engine. However, these seem to have died down as the AJP8 engine has been developed. What we don't have access to is any real indication of what reliability increases have been achieved by TVR.
As far as the AJP6 engine goes, that was a nightmare in its infancy. I don't know what the situation is now, but it certainly has a bad reputation.
I suppose it all comes down to the fact that we just don't have the information we need. There are probably enough TVR owners on this forum alone to give us a good indication if a proper poll were carried out, as I can't see TVR ever releasing that kind of information!
roadsweeper.
My first thoughts would be that you mean not correctly running the engine in, failings in maintenance (e.g. not following the service schedule, not checking the oil, etc.) or 'abuse in use' such as high revs when cold or using cr@p fuel.
If the above are correct then I am confident that the majority of Cerbera owners haven't mis-treated their vehicle in this kind of way, and yet I have heard a number of bad stories about the engine. However, these seem to have died down as the AJP8 engine has been developed. What we don't have access to is any real indication of what reliability increases have been achieved by TVR.
As far as the AJP6 engine goes, that was a nightmare in its infancy. I don't know what the situation is now, but it certainly has a bad reputation.
I suppose it all comes down to the fact that we just don't have the information we need. There are probably enough TVR owners on this forum alone to give us a good indication if a proper poll were carried out, as I can't see TVR ever releasing that kind of information!
roadsweeper.
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