Winter tyres vol 2

[Sleepers]

Squishey said:

Sleepers said:

Fox- said:

Sleepers said:

That argument is lost on me as Churchill [our current insurer] stipulates that you inform them when winters are fitted/removed...

Cheers

Nowhere in your policy does it mandate the fitting of winter tyres - nowhere in UK law does it mandate the fitting of winter tyres - therefore an insurer is not going to refuse to payout on a claim because you've not got winter tyres. It's pretty much that simple. In some other countries (Countries who actually get a winter and dont need to sit on PH pretending winter tyres revolutionised a 4c commute in the dry) the reason why not having winter tyres might lead to insurance issues is because the law dictates they must be fitted.

Sorry, did not understand a word of your reply?

PS It's quite simple... IF you fit winters, Churchill require you tell them. Axa, for example, don't. I'm just complying with the policy terms so whether they pay out or not yada yada yada is neither here nor there...

PPS we do get a winter up in rural Scotland. Although last year was mild[ish] that was far from the norm.

PPS This is my first car with winters as for the last 20 odd years I've been driving 4x4s with all seasons. The wife's car has been getting winters for the last four years since living rural. Why - for the small cost I can't be arsed getting stuck. When I was younger with more time on my hands it was fun getting stuck but what with a busy family life...

Taken from the Association of British Insurers website. Apparently Churchill do not require you to notify them when you fit winter tyres.

https://www.abi.org.uk/~/media/Files/Documents/Pub...

Strange... phoned them to check which they confirmed they do require notice and subsequently note your policy with dates fitted/removed which generates an updated certificate and schedule. Also had to state that I was putting on four winters. As a customer I have to do as they say. Not really a big deal to inform them.

Cheers

[Sleepers]

Fox- said:

Sleepers said:

Sorry, did not understand a word of your reply?

It was written in English? You've got the wrong end of the stick, somebody was saying he was surprised insurers don't use the fact some people DO NOT fit winter tyres in winter to get out of claims. The subsequent replies were about that, not about however it was you read it.

Apologies for misunderstanding.

Cheers

[Pique]

Anybody used Snowproxes? I can get some for £30 less per corner than Conti TS 850s, but would prefer to know if they're useless...

[hoagypubdog]

Have just fitted Michelin Alpin 5's to the Duster, will report back if any good..

[superlightr]

What's the best way to store tyres on thir alloys presume fully inflated and on thir side stacked up.

[vikingaero]

superlightr said:

What's the best way to store tyres on thir alloys presume fully inflated and on thir side stacked up.

Google or search in Amazon for a "tyre tree". About £20 for a standard. Pay more if you want a cover etc.

[Mercury00]

I was going to fit mine this morning but it's too cold

[JagXJR]

superlightr said:

What's the best way to store tyres on thir alloys presume fully inflated and on thir side stacked up.

Most tyre garages store them upright on racks

[JagXJR]

Have (budget) winters on the Jaguar, left them on all year as not a daily driver. Looking forwards to see how they perform. Moved out into the sticks so expecting bad roads near home this year.

Budget summers on the Subaru so will just chuck the snow socks in the boot and use the Jaguar in the winter weather. Having said that the Subaru performed well in the snow 2 years ago even on summers so 4WD beats 2WD hands down, right tool for the job I guess. Perhaps should compare the two one day when it snows.

The 2WD front drive car can stay in the garage over winter

As for "prestige" cars with pressure sensors and run-flats, you can keep them. I have eyes and pressure gauges so don't need the hassle. Having said that I don't have ultra low profile tyres so can see at a glance if they need air. Had enough of run-flats with the Montego and heard enough nightmare stories about pressure sensors on cars like the Renault Laguna to put me off!

[tenohfive]

JagXJR said:

the Subaru performed well in the snow 2 years ago even on summers so 4WD beats 2WD hands down, right tool for the job I guess. Perhaps should compare the two one day when it snows.

Please do. Given this as an illustration, it might not go that well for the Scooby. And I'd hazard in braking and cornering your winter shod Jag will really romp away.

M3 on premium winters vs. Forester on premium summers

Now the Scooby on winters however...

[lemonslap]

Pique said:

Anybody used Snowproxes? I can get some for £30 less per corner than Conti TS 850s, but would prefer to know if they're useless...

I have a set (S953) for our Audi S4, drove to the alps last winter and they coped with everything from sunshine 15C, rain and snow down to -8C. Good tyre, no issues at all .

[Pique]

Thanks chap, will go well on my Scoob then

[mosstrooper]

My Legacy on normal tyres was nowhere as good as my BMW 320 on winters.

However, once the winters went on the Legacy the difference was remarkable.

[Andehh]

jon- said:

Given the type of cars we're mostly driving on PH, this test in 235/35 R19 might be of some interest to this thread.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2014-AutoBild...

Good post, thanks for that. Always interested in reviews that are bigger wheel orientated. Trusting tyres reviewed well at 16" when i'm on 18"s always make me hesitant.

[Pablo16v]

Andehh said:

jon- said:

Given the type of cars we're mostly driving on PH, this test in 235/35 R19 might be of some interest to this thread.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2014-AutoBild...

Good post, thanks for that. Always interested in reviews that are bigger wheel orientated. Trusting tyres reviewed well at 16" when i'm on 18"s always make me hesitant.

Looking at either Hankook Icebear W310 or Nokian WR A3 in 235/45/18. Going by the reviews the Nokians appear to be worth the extra £17 per tyre.

[Munter]

The winters went on today. Because it was dry and sunny. From this point forward it is allowed to be wet cold and horrible.

I think this will be the 3rd winter on nokian WR-A3. There may be better snow tyres, but they got the wife in and out of the work car park just fine 2 years ago. Much to the irritation of other staff... ah well.

[wombleh]

Just fitted WRA3 to both our cars today too, thought I'd rather do it in the sun than in pouring rain. Was 4 degrees this morning so probably about time !

[blueg33]

Still not cold enough IMO

My winters stay in the garage for now. All balanced all st the right pressure.

[smn159]

blueg33 said:

Still not cold enough IMO

My winters stay in the garage for now. All balanced all st the right pressure.

Same here - looking like the end of the month or maybe into December before they go on at this rate

[Andehh]

jon- said:

TEKNOPUG said:

Ordered 4 Nokian WR A3's for the Scooby. About £450 including fitting. Currently got a mixture of new, mixed budget tyres all round: Runway, Fullrun etc. So will just run the Nokians until they are worn or the temps rise enough to cause them issues.

Went for the A3's over the D3's as I find a non-asymetric pattern works better in the wet/standing water - which I expect to encounter far more over the next few months than snow. Will probably also get a set for the missus Focus, as they also have newish but unmatched budget tyres and one random Conti Sport Contact 2 on the back.

You won't have any problems with the tyres, the A3's are a great choice, but it's worth noting the directional D3's are better with standing water than the asymmetric A3s. It's one of the biggest advantages of directional tyres.

The A3 was the right choice for your car though.

So what is the best one to go for the A3 or D3? Asymmetrical of directional? No interest in feel/etc just whatever gives best winter performance for grip. Will be on a 5 series for what it's worth.