Help identifying a strange little car

Help identifying a strange little car

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saaby93

32,038 posts

180 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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LarsG said:
Probably a 1963 Simca 1000 Bertone Coupe, with a rear engine, easily identified by the squared off rear wheel arch.

The 1968 model had bonnet cutouts and a proper grill.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Simca-1000-Coupe-Berton...




Edited by saaby93 on Monday 21st May 22:58

thegreenhell

15,722 posts

221 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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Pretty car, but clearly not the one we're looking for.

LarsG

991 posts

77 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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saaby93 said:
LarsG said:
Probably a 1963 Simca 1000 Bertone Coupe, with a rear engine, easily identified by the squared off rear wheel arch.

The 1968 model had bonnet cutouts and a proper grill.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Simca-1000-Coupe-Berton...




Edited by saaby93 on Monday 21st May 22:58
Definitely the car but in the 60's there was a propensity to attach extra lights to the bumpers. Definitely that car.

saaby93

32,038 posts

180 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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LarsG said:
Definitely the car but in the 60's there was a propensity to attach extra lights to the bumpers. Definitely that car.
'The car' doesnt have the fuel filler
The wrap around rear bumpers are shorter but could be from a boxy Simca
The C pillars are thicker and smaller rear screen

Is there a stable mate from say Matra? or a Fiat/Seat equivalent
or a pre 60s version

LarsG

991 posts

77 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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They made a number of convertibles and there were also hard tops available for them without the rear quarter light. 1961 Aronde.


bobbo89

5,304 posts

147 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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saaby93 said:
LarsG said:
Definitely the car but in the 60's there was a propensity to attach extra lights to the bumpers. Definitely that car.
'The car' doesnt have the fuel filler
The wrap around rear bumpers are shorter but could be from a boxy Simca
The C pillars are thicker and smaller rear screen

Is there a stable mate from say Matra? or a Fiat/Seat equivalent
or a pre 60s version
The quarter lights are the biggest tell as they're both completely different shapes. Good guess but definitely not the Simca.

I'm still convinced its either some sort of pre-production test car or a home brew fibreglass effort and so I don't think we'll ever have an answer...

Escort3500

11,953 posts

147 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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dickyweed said:
ZETA ZS - posts up to January 2016 - came across these posts this weekend.

Can any one help?? We have been trying to locate this car for years. It was built in Langley 1971 by my father, based on a 1200 beetle chassis donated from nearly new beetle which had been rolled. Any info on where it is now would be really appreciated.

My initial thought was it might be a Rawlson LM, but Googling shows it to be quite different, though it has a hint of the distinctive Ferrari LM tail spoiler. You might get a steer if you post in the ‘kit car’ section. Nice car BTW.

shakotan

10,733 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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Puddenchucker said:
Charlie Croker mk2 said:
The square and hotel have hardly changed and it still seems to attract "odd coupes" Look at the white American thing on the right !
Looks like an Oldsmobile Calias, circa 1986
1981-1987 Chevrolet Monte Carlo.

Same family as the Cutlass Calais, but the tail lamps are the giveaway.



Loose_Cannon

1,593 posts

255 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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dickyweed said:
ZETA ZS - posts up to January 2016 - came across these posts this weekend.

Can any one help?? We have been trying to locate this car for years. It was built in Langley 1971 by my father, based on a 1200 beetle chassis donated from nearly new beetle which had been rolled. Any info on where it is now would be really appreciated.

Have you messaged the person who posted the "as found" pics back in Dec 15; "M11 MFP"? I messaged him too regarding the location back then but got no response. He seems to live mostly in the Holden forums.


vixen1700

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23,230 posts

272 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1005323

Saw this today and made me think of this thread.

Sadly doesn't solve the mystery though. laugh

Equus

16,980 posts

103 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Almost exactly 4 years, this thread has been running in General gassing, and the mods have now seen fit to move it to the classics forum?

banghead

vixen1700

Original Poster:

23,230 posts

272 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Equus said:
Almost exactly 4 years, this thread has been running in General gassing, and the mods have now seen fit to move it to the classics forum?

banghead
I know, what were they thinking? confused

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

137 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Someone probably requested it in early 2015. hehe

Bebee

4,685 posts

227 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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anonymous said:
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I can see a line (assuming it's not a photo blur mark) but it's not inline with the bottom of the window corner, imagine how it would look if the supposed rear door was open. I think it's a two door.






Could be a Vauxhall Nova SR, or an S1 Etype or a Ford Escort Mexico boxedin

LarsG

991 posts

77 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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A Simca Convertable with custom hard top for goodness sake.They were famous for their rear squared off wheel arches.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

257 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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LarsG said:
A Simca Convertable with custom hard top for goodness sake.They were famous for their rear squared off wheel arches.
Except the model you said this "definitely" was quite clearly isnt the same car.

I really struggle to understand how people can be so unobservant when comparing two static images; so many of the cars being suggested have glaring and fundamental differences in the design and that includes the convertible Simca above.

Edited by Mr2Mike on Monday 18th June 07:50

rolando

2,197 posts

157 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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anonymous said:
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I've been thinking along similar lines for some time but not necessarily with four doors. The rear side window and rear wing have something of the Bentley R-type Continental about them but not the rest of the car, however. The roofline doesn't fit unless it looks as it does due to the camera angle and neither do the front wings. A real puzzler.

Gary C

12,612 posts

181 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Looking at tat photo again, I'm convinced you cannot see the front and what looks like a wonky headlight is part of the spare wheel of the car to the left. It also shows a bonnet scoop. Very Aston.

Bebee

4,685 posts

227 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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I've Warhol'ed it, it's going in a frame and on my wall.






I do agree though, we're not seeing the front of the car but the rear tyre/luggage rack attached to the other car.

L100NYY

35,263 posts

245 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Chopped the front off to see if that helped.......