Another mystery car
Discussion
Roy C said:
Slightly off topic: this film clip shows footage of Oxford Street that is roughly contemporary with the picture of the mystery car
Look At Life - Living with Cars 1964
Excellent film series. In the opening scenes the narrator mentions car numbers at 11 million in 1964, 18 million projected for 1970 and 40 million within 40 years (2004). But according to stats online we had 'only' 29.4 million in 2004.Look At Life - Living with Cars 1964
Given that successive Gov'ts have claimed that building more roads creates more traffic, these stats would be clearly against that view (if we've come in 25% under).
Shame we've neglected the road building programme for nowt in return.
End of thread diversion - please re-join main narrative.
We are enthusiasts, some more than others and some more specialist. Normally dictated by age!
Someone asked what a particular car was on a YT vid on another thread. Ask the guy in the street and you'd be there a month. Someone had the (correct) answer in no time.
But this car is above and beyond that. If no-one within the readership of C&S knew, and no-one knows on here after 18 months, then I doubt it'll be unearthed anytime soon. I still think some W&P connection is the best bet ...
Not only do we not know what it is, but where is it now? 99% likely it's gone forever - but who knows ...
Someone asked what a particular car was on a YT vid on another thread. Ask the guy in the street and you'd be there a month. Someone had the (correct) answer in no time.
But this car is above and beyond that. If no-one within the readership of C&S knew, and no-one knows on here after 18 months, then I doubt it'll be unearthed anytime soon. I still think some W&P connection is the best bet ...
Not only do we not know what it is, but where is it now? 99% likely it's gone forever - but who knows ...
I know it's probably not helping much, but the source for the front overiders has been bugging me for a while since we never really resolved this a few pages back...
I'm assuming they must have been out of some contemporary parts bin from the late 50's as surely no-one would bother to fabricate a fairly difficult part like this just for a one-off special. I'm inclined to think that the car in question is probably spridget based, so parts bin likely to be also from a British manufacturer. What does everyone think about the TR2-3A overider - the general scale and shape seem a decent match to me and especially the subtle curve to the profile of the inner edge?
I'm assuming they must have been out of some contemporary parts bin from the late 50's as surely no-one would bother to fabricate a fairly difficult part like this just for a one-off special. I'm inclined to think that the car in question is probably spridget based, so parts bin likely to be also from a British manufacturer. What does everyone think about the TR2-3A overider - the general scale and shape seem a decent match to me and especially the subtle curve to the profile of the inner edge?
Proportions do look Spridget-ish and that's a pretty good shout on the over-riders BR, I'd say you could well be right. Not sure where that leaves us though as wasn't it agreed that the front windscreen was from a Hillman?
Edit: I meant the front screen was a rear screen from a Hillman!
Edit: I meant the front screen was a rear screen from a Hillman!
uk66fastback said:
Proportions do look Spridget-ish and that's a pretty good shout on the over-riders BR, I'd say you could well be right. Not sure where that leaves us though as wasn't it agreed that the front windscreen was from a Hillman?
Edit: I meant the front screen was a rear screen from a Hillman!
I'm not sure which particular set of bits was picked up at the scrappy/factor tells us anything about the origins of it.Edit: I meant the front screen was a rear screen from a Hillman!
Loose_Cannon said:
I'm still in the camp that thinks it's LHD (right parked wiper blades) and feels French, even if it was registered here. Kind of surprised that the Forum Auto entry produced bugger all.
It was quite common back then for British cars to have the wipers park to the right. BMC in particular.Apologies for bumping this thread without an answer. (Also new t's and c's, has it been that long?)
This is still bugging the back of my mind, and I saw this today and it twigged my memory... Its still not it, and Sadly it's on a page for an unidentified car, but it's close.
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/spaceframe.htm For the source, and apologies if it's been mentioned before.
This is still bugging the back of my mind, and I saw this today and it twigged my memory... Its still not it, and Sadly it's on a page for an unidentified car, but it's close.
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/spaceframe.htm For the source, and apologies if it's been mentioned before.
blade runner said:
I know it's probably not helping much, but the source for the front overiders has been bugging me for a while since we never really resolved this a few pages back...
I'm assuming they must have been out of some contemporary parts bin from the late 50's as surely no-one would bother to fabricate a fairly difficult part like this just for a one-off special. I'm inclined to think that the car in question is probably spridget based, so parts bin likely to be also from a British manufacturer. What does everyone think about the TR2-3A overider - the general scale and shape seem a decent match to me and especially the subtle curve to the profile of the inner edge?
I said this early Dec last year on this thread. So yeah, agree.I'm assuming they must have been out of some contemporary parts bin from the late 50's as surely no-one would bother to fabricate a fairly difficult part like this just for a one-off special. I'm inclined to think that the car in question is probably spridget based, so parts bin likely to be also from a British manufacturer. What does everyone think about the TR2-3A overider - the general scale and shape seem a decent match to me and especially the subtle curve to the profile of the inner edge?
dandarez said:
Those front overriders are doing my head in!
I am now convinced they are Triumph as there is such a variety of them on front and rear of a number of Triumph cars, varying in height, curvature, cut-outs etc.
I am now convinced they are Triumph as there is such a variety of them on front and rear of a number of Triumph cars, varying in height, curvature, cut-outs etc.
uk66fastback said:
Other than the gullwing doors, I can't see ONE line that our forgotten friend and that orange monstrosity share?
So I think any hopes of there being anything in common between the two is pure guesswork.
Just a guess for sure, but that windscreen looks a dead ringer as is the gap between it and the door shut line.So I think any hopes of there being anything in common between the two is pure guesswork.
Other than that yes the wreck is very shoddy; external hinges plus horrible radius curves on the side window rubbers ala caravan, as opposed to the very neat mitring on the "mystery machine".
Has this ugly duckling graced these pages before?
https://www.gullwingmotor.com/1961-deutsch-bonnet-...
Have a look and you'll pick up the same vibe I did. The headlamp cowls, windscreen, door frame, rear fins... The removable hard-top leaves the door open for a homebrew replacement...
https://www.gullwingmotor.com/1961-deutsch-bonnet-...
Have a look and you'll pick up the same vibe I did. The headlamp cowls, windscreen, door frame, rear fins... The removable hard-top leaves the door open for a homebrew replacement...
Even allowing for some poor build qualities in the period it has always looked like a cobbled together kit or mule
I have always seen 'Reliant' in the wheel/wheel trims and front end is Reminiscent of some of the Sabre or 'Autocar' Sabra Sport variants albeit with different over-riders that were typical on the Sabre/Sabra plus the squared off rear wheel arch and gull wing coupe spoil the theory
I have always seen 'Reliant' in the wheel/wheel trims and front end is Reminiscent of some of the Sabre or 'Autocar' Sabra Sport variants albeit with different over-riders that were typical on the Sabre/Sabra plus the squared off rear wheel arch and gull wing coupe spoil the theory
Dr G said:
Has this ugly duckling graced these pages before?
https://www.gullwingmotor.com/1961-deutsch-bonnet-...
Have a look and you'll pick up the same vibe I did. The headlamp cowls, windscreen, door frame, rear fins... The removable hard-top leaves the door open for a homebrew replacement...
Mmmmmm....https://www.gullwingmotor.com/1961-deutsch-bonnet-...
Have a look and you'll pick up the same vibe I did. The headlamp cowls, windscreen, door frame, rear fins... The removable hard-top leaves the door open for a homebrew replacement...
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