Help identifying a strange little car

[Orangecurry]

Can everyone who looks at the photographs please check they haven't left their sense-of-proportion on the doorstep?

The Porsche has much smaller glass/quarterlight to bodywork proportion than the mystery car, I do believe.

TarquinMX5 said:

Why don't we agree that it's probably a Panhard of some description and, as the PM would say when faced with a difficult question "Move on, it's time to move on" .

because
1) we don't want to

2) we are not lying 'Jam-tomorrow-promising' *insert expletive here*

[TarquinMX5]

Fair enough

[FourWheelDrift]

If anything this thread had caused me to search French cars and have found a car I had never heard of and yet now really really want. The Monica 560. I'll leave you to google image search and not clog this up.

But still looking for the little bd.

[Orangecurry]

They simply copied the Daytona and stuck an extra two doors on it...

And don't google images of 'Monica' with your other/significant half in the room.

[Orangecurry]

ok so I've shot-down many of the suggestions on here, so don't hold back.

I don't have an answer, but........

1 - let's think about the car to the left which is obscuring the front of the mystery car? It's probably a Renault Primaquatre (not the Lancia - look at the door handles) and a) this car already has a massive roof-rack and b) the series 2 looks like this at the back, so no spare wheel nor boot-rack I'm presuming



Therefore what we can see in the photograph is the front of the mystery car, not the back of the Renault, oui?

What looks like a bashed front bumper is probably a bashed front bumper, which also matches the rear bashed bumper.

2 - I've mucked about with the photo and overdone the threshold - do you think it looks like a split windscreen, rather than a smashed windscreen?





......... so that's no help at all then

[Orangecurry]

...so let's assume it's a rebodied Kubelwagen, similar to the professional job done by Widerøe as shown on page 28, except this one was done by an amateur.

Then we can all go to bed.

[Mgtf01]

Could be a rebodyed job , I've come acros across alot of strange derivatives like this 356 and this which comes in lots of different guises, the challenge know if you are willing to accept is to find a picture of the said rebodyed mistery mobile. As we have done for the Milena.

[NMNeil]

1955 Salmson 2300S looks close

[Mgtf01]

Aero dynamic car, with duff front end, doesn't make sense.

[Mgtf01]

Car below the 356 is a marathon by the way.

[Mgtf01]

Wheel base that's a good start

[blueg33]

Mgtf01 said:

Could be a rebodyed job , I've come acros across alot of strange derivatives like this 356 and this which comes in lots of different guises, the challenge know if you are willing to accept is to find a picture of the said rebodyed mistery mobile. As we have done for the Milena.

That 356 is the closest yet IMO

[saaby93]

blueg33 said:

That 356 is the closest yet IMO

everyones assuming that's a quarter light pillar in the little car, or is it just the line of the building behind through 2 sets of windows, the furtherst of which has a B pillar

Edited by saaby93 on Thursday 31st December 09:55

[Orangecurry]

Please stop looking at the man-gone version above - it gives a false impression of the thickness and position of the B-pillar, which is simply guessed.

[Orangecurry]

saaby93 said:

everyones assuming that's a sidelight pillar in the little car, or is it just the line of the building behind through 2 sets of windows, the furtherst of which has a B pillar

Sorry do you mean the quarterlight, circled in blue? You think a line of the building is showing through the car, including through the bodyline on the other side of the car, blue line?

[Turbobanana]

I've been looking at this throughout lockdown (both lockdowns, actually) and something bothers me.

I think we all agree there are several influences in this quirky little car:

- bits look like a 356
- bits look like a Panhard
- bits look home made and ill-fitting
- there's damage
- Colonel Ghadaffi is blocking our view a bit

What bothers me is the front. It not only doesn't match the aerodynamic aspirations of the rest, bit it looks too new compared to the other cars visible (at least to my eyes). Which makes me wonder about the authenticity of the original photo - has it been doctored before we got to see it? Was it a coincidence that all the other cars visible look at least 20 years older than our "misery car"?

I've been trying to work out where the front comes from: I reckon it's from a Moskvich or something similar, meaning the car is younger than we thought.

Discuss...

[blueg33]

I think that the front end is hard to see because of the adornments on the rest of the car in front.

The bonnet line is unusual though.

[Ferodocastrol]

Is there a pic from the grassy knoll, I'm sure I saw smoke from there...........

[Orangecurry]

Now we have conspiracy theorists!!

What you see is probably what you can see - as discussed many pages ago, there is a big crease on the far front wing as well - it's had a big bash at the front, and the headlights are probably wired to the wreckage.

As I pointed out on the previous page, the Renault Primaquatre has in all probability no adornments on the back.

[RONV]

great hotel for classic car owners been a few times always cars on show and the owner is a motor sport petrol head