EU Roadworthiness Package BE AWARE

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Silent1

19,761 posts

236 months

Saturday 2nd July 2016
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Slidingpillar said:
Athlon said:
also in tyre monitors are losing popularity now and the systems are starting to use the abs sensors to monitor the tyre pressures (rolling radius)
That at least is good news. I can see a car with an in wheel sensor failing, and needing a tyre removed and replaced to change a battery that cost £1. Obviously the batteries should be changed when a tyre is changed (perhaps not that often for a high mileage driver) but who knows with a ten year old second hand car.
Interestingly bmw and mini are going the other way, from abs sensors to in wheel pressure monitors.

a8hex

5,830 posts

224 months

Sunday 3rd July 2016
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Silent1 said:
Slidingpillar said:
Athlon said:
also in tyre monitors are losing popularity now and the systems are starting to use the abs sensors to monitor the tyre pressures (rolling radius)
That at least is good news. I can see a car with an in wheel sensor failing, and needing a tyre removed and replaced to change a battery that cost £1. Obviously the batteries should be changed when a tyre is changed (perhaps not that often for a high mileage driver) but who knows with a ten year old second hand car.
Interestingly bmw and mini are going the other way, from abs sensors to in wheel pressure monitors.
Good thing too, these systems that rely on the ABS sensors are a total pain in the arse! Everytime you change a tyre they go off, if you change from summer to winter tyres then they get confused for a while around the change. Our MB has had so many false positives that you just give up taking any notice. It isn't just our car either, I went to pick up a hire car in the US recently, a brand new VW the moment I moved it the warning went off on that, I went to find someone to look at it, "Oh they all do that, but I can't just reset it and let you take the car, you'll have to go and ask for another one."
Nice idea in theory but a total failure in practice in my experiene.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Sunday 3rd July 2016
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4rephill said:
Sorry but if a car has a safety feature fitted then it should be working!

You say if you want to drive a car with safety features that are not working then that is your choice, but what about any passengers that might be in your car?

You might not care if you live or die due to the airbags not working or the ABS system not working, but your passengers might!

How about if your tyre pressure system is faulty? - Should your passengers and every other person on the road be put at risk because you've decided you don't need to know if your runflat tyres have lost pressure and could suffer a severe failure hundreds of miles later?

You say it should be your choice if you want the safety features on your car to be working or not, but the fact of the matter is, the safety features are not just there for your safety!

But if you know they are not there you will not rely on it.
Would you refuse to drive a car supplied without TPMS, or ABS, or a rear passenger side curtain airbag?