Ford Capri, it might have looked like these !!
Ford Capri, it might have looked like these !!
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nalaeroom

Original Poster:

100 posts

185 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Capri Graphics book (copyright Ford Motor Company)



















Thanks for looking

Alan M

djt100

1,739 posts

211 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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is it me or do all the pictures that don't resemble a capri look like a opel Manta ?

chevy-stu

5,392 posts

254 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Good find... Some very interesting design ideas.

The slant nose looks more RS2000 to me, but can see the Manta thing too, and some US styling cues...

RedexR

1,861 posts

240 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Almost Lancia like in some of those scratchchin

MGB Boy

1,749 posts

200 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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djt100 said:
is it me or do all the pictures that don't resemble a capri look like a opel Manta ?
My thoughts exactly

460ci

30 posts

189 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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More overly I would love to be able to sketch and draw like that, no auto cad or designsketch here, just good old fashioned talent

RV8

1,570 posts

197 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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I'm glad they went with the c shaped rear window and fat C-pillar but I wish Ford would have given it hips, elongated the boot slightly and a used the rear window and C pillar to get a coke bottle shape. It would look more muscular, American and less European - the Firenza had that curved rear window too - it must have been a styling device that was popular at the time when coke bottles and flared hips were starting to become less fashionable, which is a shame because that is my favorite look for a car.

I've sketched what I mean over this image.


socorob

72 posts

191 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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With all the retro look cars out, I wish Ford would do a Capri in one of the top 2 looks. Put in the new all aluminum dohc V6 thats available in the new mustang. 300hp, 30mpg 0-60 in under 6 seconds in the heavy mustang. IRS in the back... i think it would be a good selling car.

NHK244V

3,358 posts

198 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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RV8 said:
I'm glad they went with the c shaped rear window and fat C-pillar but I wish Ford would have given it hips, elongated the boot slightly and a used the rear window and C pillar to get a coke bottle shape. It would look more muscular, American and less European - the Firenza had that curved rear window too - it must have been a styling device that was popular at the time when coke bottles and flared hips were starting to become less fashionable, which is a shame because that is my favorite look for a car.

I've sketched what I mean over this image.

That bottom one looks like a Taunus coupe at the rear probably why they steered away from it ?

RV8

1,570 posts

197 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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NHK244V said:
That bottom one looks like a Taunus coupe at the rear probably why they steered away from it ?
It looked like they'd toyed with the idea of a coke bottle shape on this image.



That would be a MK1 shape though, I'd guess by the time they reached the Mk2 and Mk3 (which I sketched over) that coke bottle shape was starting to look dated. Because they went with the C shaped window on the mk1 it became a familiar styling trick used on later models - had they gone for a coke bottle shape in the first place... I think going for the coke bottle on the mk2 and 3 capri would have been seen as a step backwards unless the styling was carried across from the mk1 in the first place, in which case it which would have predated the Taunus you refer to.

You are right that the Taunus (and the Mk3 cortina) had a similar shape to the rear additionally other cars at the time, like the Vauxhall Ventora, also had this shape but I think the coke bottle shape was a dated styling gimmick rather than any mix up or identity issues over models in the ford range.
The taunus/mk3 cortina was available in saloon, coupe, 2 door or 4 door, estate and ute/pick-up just like the mk3 (basically the same car but badged differently for the rest of europe and SA, narrower bonnet hump and the taunus was more of a mk3/4 crossover in terms of swage lines) the mk3 was also available as a crayford convertible, dunno about the taunus. With respect to all of this the capri was a stand-alone coupe (or lift back on the mk2 + 3, if you prefer accuracy) and the only options were really wether you wanted a performance version wit decent trim level or not so there was never going to be an identity issue between these ford models even if styling elements were similar because they were appealing to different markets. In fact it's not uncommon for manufacturers to carry styling cues across a range to form a brand identity.

The crazy thing is that the styling I'm on about has come full circle, the new Challenger, Charger, Camaro, Avenger (which carries the cues from the much bigger Charger albeit watered down for the european market), 2010 Mustang.... all have a defined coke bottle shape. This element of styling gives the car a chucky arse and combined with a long bonnet is the best look any styling house has conceived imo - you even get massively pushed versions of this concept like the Buick boat tail Riviera. The capri is a cracking looking car but I still think with the long bonnet it's got a stubby arse, in the same way the bmw 3 series compact looks proportionally unbalanced.

Pistom

6,322 posts

185 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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Love the flared arches/

graemel

7,219 posts

243 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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Excellent Alan, thanks for sharing

quiraing

1,649 posts

165 months

Saturday 25th May 2013
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Discovered this excellent thread today via another source - have seen many of these pics before but not as a collection.

The design mock-ups in pic 4 based on a Mk1 are especially interesting, hadn't seen this pic before.

Pic 5 rh top show drawing of what could have been - period late 70s Mk2 Granada-styled front, looks a bit like an Opel Monza. Would have been better with a slight curve to the end of the rear side window to retain the C-shape.

Thx to OP.


DBSV8

5,958 posts

264 months

Saturday 25th May 2013
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early capri mk1 prototypes did not have the classic curved 3/4 rear window , they were oblong

during testing , they were enlarged to the familiar rounded curved ones that have become symbolic with Capri design because rear passengers complained of lack of vision

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The earliest pre production prototypes were on an F plate . Normal production mk1'S came out in 1969 on G plates


For thos that wanted the wasp wasted coke bottle look , your wish was granted in 1970 , when Ford started their racing program and produced the RS Cologne bodied 2600.

my 1970 mk1 3 liter Cologne "sans engine" on its way to France.






Edited by DBSV8 on Saturday 25th May 12:32

Upatdawn

2,202 posts

174 months

Saturday 25th May 2013
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I always consider this the Capri Mk1...

Surely Fords prettiest effort



Do any Ford AVO 3ltr V6 rallycross cars survive with the DAF variomatic transmission?

or 4WD?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

Edited by Upatdawn on Saturday 25th May 13:11

Rich G

1,271 posts

244 months

Saturday 25th May 2013
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Upatdawn said:
I always consider this the Capri Mk1...

Surely Fords prettiest effort



Do any Ford AVO 3ltr V6 rallycross cars survive with the DAF variomatic transmission?

or 4WD?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

Edited by Upatdawn on Saturday 25th May 13:11
Maybe the Consul Capri is where the window shape for the 70s Capris came from, quite similar in outline - would love one like the above!

OzGas

7 posts

202 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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In Australia we had this Capri for a few years...


Geoff38

789 posts

272 months

Friday 7th June 2013
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Upatdawn said:
Do any Ford AVO 3ltr V6 rallycross cars survive with the DAF variomatic transmission?

or 4WD?


Edited by Upatdawn on Saturday 25th May 13:11
Funnily enough I was shown a capri 4WD shell yesterday at a capri specialist's workshop. Had a complete shell refurb years ago but is totally stripped down.

rumple

14,270 posts

177 months

Friday 7th June 2013
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DBSV8 said:
early capri mk1 prototypes did not have the classic curved 3/4 rear window , they were oblong

during testing , they were enlarged to the familiar rounded curved ones that have become symbolic with Capri design because rear passengers complained of lack of vision

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The earliest pre production prototypes were on an F plate . Normal production mk1'S came out in 1969 on G plates


For thos that wanted the wasp wasted coke bottle look , your wish was granted in 1970 , when Ford started their racing program and produced the RS Cologne bodied 2600.

my 1970 mk1 3 liter Cologne "sans engine" on its way to France.






Edited by DBSV8 on Saturday 25th May 12:32
You have posted about the rear window beating me to it, however that Capri of yours is now my favourite car on PH, have you done a thread on it, have you anymore pictures of it, would you ever sell it?cloud9

standardman

424 posts

194 months

Friday 7th June 2013
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I have some negatives of a lot of early Capri design variants as well as Pictures of the COLT on a motorshow style stand with the early side Windows.

Such a shame all the early ones got crushed.